Solomon: Today's The View

[Pavan]

I hope you're watching/recording it. Rosie and Elisabeth are at it today again! I am not watching, but just saw a blurb on it on Google Newsgroups.

[TVFactFan]

I hope you're watching/recording it. Rosie and Elisabeth are at it today again! I am not watching, but just saw a blurb on it on Google Newsgroups.


It's being recorded righ now, what's going on?

[Pavan]

Not sure...but a big fight between Rosie and Elisabeth. Lots of arguing.

[TVFactFan]

Not sure...but a big fight between Rosie and Elisabeth. Lots of arguing.


I thought her fat ass said on the air she would no longer fight with elisabeth because she is pregnant-lol

[Janice]

I didn't think there could be a person as annoying and with as big a mouth as Rosie. I was wrong, it's Joy. She doesn't discuss, she streamrolls over people.

http://www.breitbart.tv/elizabethfightsback.html

[Ireneparalegal]

Oy vey...:crazy:

[Janice]

I am way too easily entertained...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSU4-oaRHY
^ Posted already.

[TVJunkie101]

I was pretty behind Rosie, for the most part, but she was a total, obnoxious bitch on this one. Big time.

[GoldenGirlsFan92]

They fight way to much. THey really got into eachother. I loved how Sheri & Joy were just sitting there laughing. I'm on Rosie & Joy's side. Elisabeth is kind of crazy!

[Ireneparalegal]

They fight way to much. THey really got into eachother. I loved how Sheri & Joy were just sitting there laughing. I'm on Rosie & Joy's side. Elisabeth is kind of crazy!
I agree. :rofl:

The only sane one there was Sheri. Maybe SHERI should be the one to replace Rosie! Hmmmm.... Get a whole new cast with Sheri. She was the only one who didn't give me a migraine watching that childish behavior by all three of those yahoos.

[GoldenGirlsFan92]

I agree. :rofl:

The only sane one there was Sheri. Maybe SHERI should be the one to replace Rosie! Hmmmm.... Get a whole new cast with Sheri. She was the only one who didn't give me a migraine watching that childish behavior by all three of those yahoos.
I agree. I like Sheri, but I'm going to miss Rosie a little.

[Janice]

Elisabeth handed Rosie her a$$ on a platter. :lol:

[TVFactFan]

Pav I think this SPAT was STAGED so that MORE viewers can tune into tomorrow and friday-lol It was talked about on my l;ocal ABC news tonight

[Brent88]

Elisabeth handed Rosie her a$$ on a platter. :lol:

Yep... I loved watching that.

The View is going to be nothing without Rosie to be totally serious. I am going to miss these fights. :p

[TVFactFan]

Yep... I loved watching that.

The View is going to be nothing without Rosie to be totally serious. I am going to miss these fights. :p



I haven't watched it yet but I did see the clip of Elisabeth SNAPPING when Rosie called her a COWARD-lol

[Pavan]

Solomon, why would it be staged? Sweeps ends after today.

[TVFactFan]

Solomon, why would it be staged? Sweeps ends after today.


Well all I know is I'm buying the NYpost tomorrow because they WILL DIG INTO what was happening after the show-lol

[TVJunkie101]

I highly doubt that was staged. No way. Way too much emotion and drama and heated words. You can't script that.

[TVFactFan]

I highly doubt that was staged. No way. Way too much emotion and drama and heated words. You can't script that.


They will be hanging out together Tonight-lol

[TVFactFan]

I highly doubt that was staged. No way. Way too much emotion and drama and heated words. You can't script that.


I'm sure black women in the audience found this stereotype of Black women very funny that was stated by the Black Co-host

She said to Rosie"If her and Elisabeth were two black women, the fight would have been BIGGER! Basically saying that Black women wouldn't know how to control their anger on TV-lol

[TVFactFan]

I highly doubt that was staged. No way. Way too much emotion and drama and heated words. You can't script that.

[Ireneparalegal]

I'm sure black women in the audience found this stereotype of Black women very funny that was stated by the Black Co-host

She said to Rosie"If her and Elisabeth were two black women, the fight would have been BIGGER! Basically saying that Black women wouldn't know how to control their anger on TV-lol
I can't see any intelligient black woman watching this show. What for?

[TVFactFan]

I can't see any intelligient black woman watching this show. What for?


Hey watch yourself, my mom watches the View-lol

[Pavan]

I just saw the entire clip. From when Joy was reading out the list of things Bush should be fired for.

This argument is sad but great entertainment, lol.

[Ireneparalegal]

Hey watch yourself, my mom watches the View-lol
:lol: I know she does. You have mentioned that many times. But why does anyone watch it? Why does your mom watch it? Will she miss Rosie and all the fighting?

[Brian Damage]

This can't be what Barbara Walters had in mind.

[Ireneparalegal]

This can't be what Barbara Walters had in mind.
Oh I am sure it's not.

No one got an edge over the other in that tape. It is pure childish, boorish behavior among Joy, Rosie and Elizabeth. You can't have a debate or an adult conversation abt politics and get all heated and red in the face and so forth.

It seems like Joy "planned" this. She is not dumb. She knew exactly what reading that list was going to cause.

[Brieannas21]

They fight way to much. THey really got into eachother. I loved how Sheri & Joy were just sitting there laughing. I'm on Rosie & Joy's side. Elisabeth is kind of crazy!

TOTALLY AGREE

[Janice]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I read that Rosie is off tomorrow. I also read that the looney tune conspiracy group, Loose Marbles in Your Head, is scheduled to be The View tomorrow. If all that's true, that would be strange because Rosie's one of the Loose Marbles too. Maybe they could adjust each other's tinfoil hats or something.

[Brieannas21]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I read that Rosie is off tomorrow. I also read that the looney tune conspiracy group, Loose Marbles in Your Head, is scheduled to be The View tomorrow. If all that's true, that would be strange because Rosie's one of the Loose Marbles too. Maybe they could adjust each other's tinfoil hats or something.


Yeah she's off tomorrow because it's Kelli's Bday and then the next day is her son's Bday.

[TVJunkie101]

I bet the network is killing themselves for not caving into Rosie's demands. Love her or hate her, she's added a whole new level to the View and it gets people talking.

And we all know she'll probably have her own show again in 2008.

[Janice]

Yeah she's off tomorrow because it's Kelli's Bday and then the next day is her son's Bday.
Who takes their spouses and kid's birthdays off? My parents always worked and had the parties on the weekend. Just saying it's strange that Rosie's not going to be there since she's always spewing that 9/11 conspiracy BS...and her fellow moonbats Loose Marbles are scheduled.

[TVFactFan]

:lol: I know she does. You have mentioned that many times. But why does anyone watch it? Why does your mom watch it? Will she miss Rosie and all the fighting?


You know I haven't asked her-lol I will tonight

[TVFactFan]

Yeah she's off tomorrow because it's Kelli's Bday and then the next day is her son's Bday.


Damm, well I wonder who will be hosting-lol

[Brieannas21]

Who takes their spouses and kid's birthdays off? My parents always worked and had the parties on the weekend. Just saying it's strange that Rosie's not going to be there since she's always spewing that 9/11 conspiracy BS...and her fellow moonbats Loose Marbles are scheduled.


Because she loves to go down to Miami on weekends and Holidays and since they don't work on Friday's she'll get a 4 day weekend. Plus Kelli's family is in town, they've been on The View for the past 2 days. So it would make sense to take a day off when your in-laws are in town and you'll get a 4 day weekend to boot. Makes lots of sense

[Brieannas21]

Damm, well I wonder who will be hosting-lol

Barbara will be there and then they'll have a celeb co-host.

[Janice]

Because she loves to go down to Miami on weekends and Holidays and since they don't work on Friday's she'll get a 4 day weekend. Plus Kelli's family is in town, they've been on The View for the past 2 days. So it would make sense to take a day off when your in-laws are in town and you'll get a 4 day weekend to boot. Makes lots of sense
No, still not making much sense, considering a huge cause of Rosie's has been that 9/11 is an inside job. Her website is insane with the conspiracy. The nusty group, whose real name is Loose Change, are the guests on the show. And she takes that day off? She could bring the in-laws on the show again. Give them front rows seats why she talks nonsense about 9/11 with her fellow nut-cakers, and be gone by noon, and still have a 3-day weekend with Kel and family...or even still 4, if they're off for Memorial Day.

OR, miss big shot could have the tinfoilers on the following week. I'm sure Babs would accomodate her. Think of those ratings. Now, that makes sense.

[Ireneparalegal]

You know I haven't asked her-lol I will tonight
Please! I really would like to know. Make a thread abt it too! ;)

[Brieannas21]

No, still not making much sense, considering a huge cause of Rosie's has been that 9/11 is an inside job. Her website is insane with the conspiracy. The nusty group, whose real name is Loose Change, are the guests on the show. And she takes that day off? She could bring the in-laws on the show again. Give them front rows seats why she talks nonsense about 9/11 with her fellow nut-cakers, and be gone by noon, and still have a 3-day weekend with Kel and family...or even still 4, if they're off for Memorial Day.

OR, miss big shot could have the tinfoilers on the following week. I'm sure Babs would accomodate her. Think of those ratings. Now, that makes sense.


It has nothing to do with 9/11, so I don't see why you keep saying that. Her in-laws came into town this week because Rosie threw a big party for Kelli. Kelli's sisters, brothers, mom and dad were on The View in the audience twice this week. Tomorrow is Kelli's Birthday and maybe she wants to spend time with her wife or whatever she is to her. This isn't the first Thursday she has taken off. She said that her Son's Bday is Friday so who knows what all she had planned for this week. Who wouldn't want a 4 day weekend.

Hell, last year I took my daughter Bday off and her Bday fell on a Thursday, and she was just turning 3.

[Janice]

Brieannas, I can't keep explaining the same thing to you over and over again, as to why I'm surprised that Rosie's not going to be on the show with the Loose Marbles. Just read my posts again, or don't, whatever.

And boy oh boy, I've been falling behind in my politics, but Rosie DID call our troops terrorists....and people are saying that Elisabeth is crazy. :crazy:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/17/video-rosie-believes-america-is-the-real-terrorist/

[TVFactFan]

It has nothing to do with 9/11, so I don't see why you keep saying that. Her in-laws came into town this week because Rosie threw a big party for Kelli. Kelli's sisters, brothers, mom and dad were on The View in the audience twice this week. Tomorrow is Kelli's Birthday and maybe she wants to spend time with her wife or whatever she is to her. This isn't the first Thursday she has taken off. She said that her Son's Bday is Friday so who knows what all she had planned for this week. Who wouldn't want a 4 day weekend.

Hell, last year I took my daughter Bday off and her Bday fell on a Thursday, and she was just turning 3.


This will be my first time not seeing rosie on the View since i been taping it

[Scoobiedoo30]

I was watching Larry King Live and someone said that Barbara took a bad day to take the day off

[Janice]

This will be my first time not seeing rosie on the View since i been taping it
Now I'm reading that Rosie organized tomorrow's show with the crackpot 9/11 "experts." I'll find the tape. Maybe then, it might seem strange that she's not there for something she believes in and actually arranged, lol.

[Ireneparalegal]

Now I'm reading that Rosie organized tomorrow's show with the crackpot 9/11 "experts." I'll find the tape. Maybe then, it might seem strange that she's not there for something she believes in and actually arranged, lol.
Will Charlie Sheen be there? :lol:

[Janice]

Will Charlie Sheen be there? :lol:
Of course Irene, probably with Papa Moonbat, Marty. :lol:

[Ireneparalegal]

Of course Irene, probably with Papa Moonbat, Marty. :lol:
:rofl:

[Scoobiedoo30]

Rosie will be off on Thursday, May, 24, 2007

[Brieannas21]

Brieannas, I can't keep explaining the same thing to you over and over again, as to why I'm surprised that Rosie's not going to be on the show with the Loose Marbles. Just read my posts again, or don't, whatever.

And boy oh boy, I've been falling behind in my politics, but Rosie DID call our troops terrorists....and people are saying that Elisabeth is crazy. :crazy:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/17/video-rosie-believes-america-is-the-real-terrorist/


You don't have to explain anything I get what you're talking about. And what I'm saying is that to some people family comes first. If Barbara Streisand was on tomorrow show as a guest and Rosie takes that day off, then I'll say that something was up. So what you're saying isn't making any sense to me.

And no Rosie didn't call the Troops terrorist, I think she's implying to Bush and his administration.

[Janice]

You don't have to explain anything I get what you're talking about. And what I'm saying is that to some people family comes first. If Barbara Streisand was on tomorrow show as a guest and Rosie takes that day off, then I'll say that something was up. So what you're saying isn't making any sense to me. Whatever you say. I need a roadmap to follow your logic.
And no Rosie didn't call the Troops terrorist, I think she's implying to Bush and his administration.
Why am I not surprised. She said we've killed 655 Iraqis (she's only off by about 600,000). Who does the killing? The troops. You want to make excuses for her, you go right ahead, she's all yours. She's nuts. :crazy:

[Brieannas21]

Whatever you say. I need a roadmap to follow your logic.

Why am I not surprised. She said we've killed 655 Iraqis (she's only off by about 600,000). Who does the killing? The troops. You want to make excuses for her, you go right ahead, she's all yours. She's nuts. :crazy:


What I don't understand, is why you're making a big deal out of her not working tomorrow/today. And if you watched The View (which I know you say you don‘t), she actually said 655,000 innocent people have been killed. And the fact that innocent people have been killed let alone that many is an absurd amount.

And she talks about the war and 9/11 just about every day on The View, Her Elisabeth and Joy. So today doesn’t make it any different. This isn’t the first fight her and Elisabeth have gotten into.

And what excuses have I made for her? None at all

[Fleet]

I am going to miss these fights. :p
I'm not.
It might be interesting if Rosie were a rational liberal, like Alan Colmes, but she's just too wacky. :crazy:

[Brent88]

This can't be what Barbara Walters had in mind.

I find it ironic she was not there. It seems like EVERY single time there's a fight, Barbara is not there. Convienent.

and I just watched the whole clip too, from Joy reading the list on. I loved her later on when Rosie and Elisabeth are going at it and she keeps trying to jump in about going to commerical... :lol: The arguing stops so suddenly though, it's weird.

[TVFactFan]

I find it ironic she was not there. It seems like EVERY single time there's a fight, Barbara is not there. Convienent.

and I just watched the whole clip too, from Joy reading the list on. I loved her later on when Rosie and Elisabeth are going at it and she keeps trying to jump in about going to commerical... :lol: The arguing stops so suddenly though, it's weird.


You know they were not trying to go to any commercials-lol

[T-Greg]

Elisabeth handed Rosie her a$$ on a platter. :lol:

Correct. An oversized platter to be exact! Elisabeth is beautiful, she has morals, she's athletic, she's smart...and Rosie is...well, she has a big mouth! She can't stand someone standing up to her. I'm in Elisabeth's corner. I despise Rosie!

[TVFactFan]

Correct. An oversized platter to be exact! Elisabeth is beautiful, she has morals, she's athletic, she's smart...and Rosie is...well, she has a big mouth! She can't stand someone standing up to her. I'm in Elisabeth's corner. I despise Rosie!


Elisabeth to Rosie-"DO NOT CALL ME A COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

[Brieannas21]

Well it was preempted today, I'm sitting in my office and all I see is Bush country ass.

[Brian Damage]

Well it was preempted today, I'm sitting in my office and all I see is Bush country ass.


Karma :D

[Brieannas21]

Karma :D


How so? They will rerun it and Rosie wasn't on today's show anyway.

[Janice]

What I don't understand, is why you're making a big deal out of her not working tomorrow/today.
I explained that in a few posts. I can't spoonfeed you any more than that. Gotta chalk this one up to that you just don't get it.
And if you watched The View (which I know you say you don‘t), she actually said 655,000 innocent people have been killed. And the fact that innocent people have been killed let alone that many is an absurd amount.
Typo on my part, but you knew that. Rosie still inflated the numbers by about 600,000.
And she talks about the war and 9/11 just about every day on The View, Her Elisabeth and Joy. So today doesn’t make it any different. This isn’t the first fight her and Elisabeth have gotten into.
It's plenty different. It's all over the news, the web, talk shows, on and on. The difference this time is that Elisabeth made a complete fool out of Rosie.
And what excuses have I made for her? None at all.

By...what Rosie meant or implied, was etc.... Even if she wasn't talking about the troops, it's still terrible calling your own country a terrorist country. Even a lot of the libs are distancing themselves from Rosie. Chris Matthews did a segment on it, and the libs were ripping her apart. :lol:

[Janice]

http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/070522/schorr.gif

[friendsfan77]

I watched the clip this morning on The Daily Buzz. I find it so interesting that everytime they argue like this, Barbara Walters is nowhere in sight.

[GoldenGirlsFan92]

Rosie will be off on Thursday, May, 24, 2007
I didn't even see "The View" because it was interuppted by Bush's speech.

[Ireneparalegal]

I watched the clip this morning on The Daily Buzz. I find it so interesting that everytime they argue like this, Barbara Walters is nowhere in sight.
When the cat's away, the mice do play.

[TVFactFan]

How so? They will rerun it and Rosie wasn't on today's show anyway.


Well That's good because Rosie wasn't on there anyway so I wn't be tapng anymore until Wednesday

[Ireneparalegal]

What I don't understand, is why you're making a big deal out of her not working tomorrow/today. And if you watched The View (which I know you say you don‘t), she actually said 655,000 innocent people have been killed. And the fact that innocent people have been killed let alone that many is an absurd amount.

And she talks about the war and 9/11 just about every day on The View, Her Elisabeth and Joy. So today doesn’t make it any different. This isn’t the first fight her and Elisabeth have gotten into.

And what excuses have I made for her? None at all
I can vouch that Rosie did say 655,000 innocent people. On our local entertainment news they played a small part of that video. It is very hard to listen and/or understand when three women are yelling, talking loud, interrupting each other, etc. But she did say that.

I think it is also fair to say that our troops are not the only ones who have been behind any deaths (justified or not). Those Iraqi's have the blood of their own people on their hand, before our troops ever went over there and now.

[Janice]

I can vouch that Rosie did say 655,000 innocent people.
We can all listen to the video posted on this thread. I didn't have a hard time making out what Rosie said.

[Brian Damage]

Well That's good because Rosie wasn't on there anyway so I wn't be tapng anymore until Wednesday


That IF she comes back.

TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/23/is-rosie-ready-to-ditch-the-view-right-now/)

[TVFactFan]

That IF she comes back.

TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/23/is-rosie-ready-to-ditch-the-view-right-now/)


Well if that's true I won't be watching-lol That's like taking Ernie Johnson off TNT, lol

[Brian Damage]

She was leaving anyway.

[Pavan]

Due to special report coverage of the President’s Press Conference, today’s episode of “The View” is on ABC.com. Click on Daytime and select “The View.” Today’s episode will remain online through Monday.


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ABC.COM TO OFFER PORTIONS OF TODAY’S EPISODE OF “THE VIEW” ONLINE

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Dedicated to expanding its network and channel brands across multiple platforms and connecting viewers with their favorite shows anytime and anywhere, ABC.com will make portions of today’s live broadcast of “The View” available in addition to the regular clips of Hot Topics for viewers who may have missed the show due to today’s Presidential Press Conference.



Beginning today at 3:00 p.m., PT and 6:00 p.m., ET, portions of today’s show featuring guest co-host Kathy Griffin, along with a segment on healing heartburn and indigestion, and Representative Dennis Cardozo speaking on foster care can be found on The View’s subsite at ABC.com.



About The View (Weekdays, 11:00 a.m. – 12:00 noon, ET)

“The View,” recipient of the 2003 Daytime Emmy® Award for “Outstanding Talk Show,” is ABC Daytime’s morning chatfest, featuring a team of dynamic women of different ages, experiences and backgrounds discussing the most exciting events of the day. The program has received critical acclaim since premiering August 11, 1997. It’s broadcast live from NYC (11:00 a.m.-12:00 noon, ET; CLOSED-CAPTIONED; broadcast in stereo; TV-14).



“The View” is produced by and features ABC News correspondent Barbara Walters -- who appears on average three days a week – entertainer Rosie O’Donnell, comedian Joy Behar and designer and former “Survivor: The Australian Outback” participant Elisabeth Hasselbeck. “The View” consists of hot topics in the news, the best experts in their field, celebrity interviews and general entertainment. The program celebrated its 2000th show on February 2, 2006, and is now in its tenth season on the ABC Television Network.

[TVFactFan]

Due to special report coverage of the President’s Press Conference, today’s episode of “The View” is on ABC.com. Click on Daytime and select “The View.” Today’s episode will remain online through Monday.


QUICK TAKE





ABC.COM TO OFFER PORTIONS OF TODAY’S EPISODE OF “THE VIEW” ONLINE

DUE TO EAST COAST PRE-EMPTION AND HIGH DEMAND





Dedicated to expanding its network and channel brands across multiple platforms and connecting viewers with their favorite shows anytime and anywhere, ABC.com will make portions of today’s live broadcast of “The View” available in addition to the regular clips of Hot Topics for viewers who may have missed the show due to today’s Presidential Press Conference.



Beginning today at 3:00 p.m., PT and 6:00 p.m., ET, portions of today’s show featuring guest co-host Kathy Griffin, along with a segment on healing heartburn and indigestion, and Representative Dennis Cardozo speaking on foster care can be found on The View’s subsite at ABC.com.



About The View (Weekdays, 11:00 a.m. – 12:00 noon, ET)

“The View,” recipient of the 2003 Daytime Emmy® Award for “Outstanding Talk Show,” is ABC Daytime’s morning chatfest, featuring a team of dynamic women of different ages, experiences and backgrounds discussing the most exciting events of the day. The program has received critical acclaim since premiering August 11, 1997. It’s broadcast live from NYC (11:00 a.m.-12:00 noon, ET; CLOSED-CAPTIONED; broadcast in stereo; TV-14).



“The View” is produced by and features ABC News correspondent Barbara Walters -- who appears on average three days a week – entertainer Rosie O’Donnell, comedian Joy Behar and designer and former “Survivor: The Australian Outback” participant Elisabeth Hasselbeck. “The View” consists of hot topics in the news, the best experts in their field, celebrity interviews and general entertainment. The program celebrated its 2000th show on February 2, 2006, and is now in its tenth season on the ABC Television Network.



No Rosie, No Interest-lol

[Brian Damage]

No Rosie, No Interest-lol


:lol:

[Brieannas21]

I can vouch that Rosie did say 655,000 innocent people. On our local entertainment news they played a small part of that video. It is very hard to listen and/or understand when three women are yelling, talking loud, interrupting each other, etc. But she did say that.

I think it is also fair to say that our troops are not the only ones who have been behind any deaths (justified or not). Those Iraqi's have the blood of their own people on their hand, before our troops ever went over there and now.


I don't want to ruffle any feathers but I have to agree with part of her statement she made this past week. Rosie said that Americans would think differently of this war if France or another country came over the US took over were killing innocent moms, dads, babies, children, grandparents. Plus young men and women who are fighting in the war who aren't even 20 yrs old are getting killed. We all would think differently and I think that's the gist of her whole rant. I don't agree with everything she has said but that I do agree with that. So I see her point somewhat.

[Janice]

I don't want to ruffle any feathers but I have to agree with part of her statement she made this past week. Rosie said that Americans would think differently of this war if France or another country came over the US took over were killing innocent moms, dads, babies, children, grandparents. Plus young men and women who are fighting in the war who aren't even 20 yrs old are getting killed. We all would think differently and I think that's the gist of her whole rant. I don't agree with everything she has said but that I do agree with that. So I see her point somewhat.
You and Rosie might have a point except that Saddam was having his own people raped and murdered in the most unimaginable ways. It's not as if we invaded them to kill their civilians. And it's the Iraqi insurgents who are killing most of the civilians in Iraq. And there's no draft here, so when soldiers sign up, they know the risks involved. What part of her statement don't you agree with? She's calling the U.S. terrorrists. A person has to be a hardcore lib moonbat to believe that claptrap.

[Brieannas21]

You and Rosie might have a point except that Saddam was having his own people raped and murdered in the most unimaginable ways. It's not as if we invaded them to kill their civilians. And it's the Iraqi insurgents who are killing most of the civilians in Iraq. And there's no draft here, so when soldiers sign up, they know the risks involved. What part of her statement don't you agree with? She's calling the U.S. terrorrists. A person has to be a hardcore lib moonbat to believe that claptrap.


That still doesn't make it right to kill people who has nothing at all to do with this war. Those people are just living their lives just like you and I. Saddam is dead and has been for a couple months now. What I'm talking about has nothing at all to do with him. People here in the US kill each other every day, Gang do driveby's every day, we are killing each other everyday. It still doesn't give another country the right to come over here and take over and kill innocent people who are in their homes making dinner, kids out side playing games, Men working to provide for their families. When the war first started we were dropping bombs and missles, they don't know where they landed and who all they killed. Innocent people shouldn't have to pay the price of having their loved ones killed who didn't do anything to anyone. They didn’t ask us to go over and take over their land and their property, Looking for the big tall boogie man.

There's always going to be terrorist, we can't capture everyone and stop every crazy loon. There are families who are grooming their children to grow up to become terrorist just for the simple fact that they hate the US. We can't get rid of all the bad apples. People will always hate us

I don't agree with Rosie on her whole 9/11 thing, I don't know what happened to WTC7, I wasn't there. She says that a plane didn't hit it, I know a plane didn't hit it, she thinks that the government had something to do with WTC7.

[Fleet]

So I see her point somewhat.
The only point I see is the one on Rosie's head.
What a dummy for her to claim that 650,000 Iraqis have been killed... it's around 60,000. And much of those were killed by "insurgents." You would think she would do some research before spouting off inaccuracies like a fool!

[Fleet]

That still doesn't make it right to kill people who has nothing at all to do with this war. Those people are just living their lives just like you and I. Saddam is dead and has been for a couple months now.

When he was alive, Saddam funded, supported and harbored terrorists. He also broke the 1991 cease-fire agreement... an agreement which gave the U.S. authority to resume military action if it was broken.

When the war first started we were dropping bombs and missles, they don't know where they landed and who all they killed.


Not true. We (the U.S.) were actually capable of dropping bombs which would go under an overpass and hit it's target leaving the overpass undamaged. Military buildings, too... hitting those and leaving other buildings undamaged. Haven't you ever heard of "smart bombs?"

[Brieannas21]

When he was alive, Saddam funded, supported and harbored terrorists. He also broke the 1991 cease-fire agreement... an agreement which gave the U.S. authority to resume military action if it was broken.



Not true. We (the U.S.) were actually capable of dropping bombs which would go under an overpass and hit it's target leaving the overpass undamaged. Military buildings, too... hitting those and leaving other buildings undamaged. Haven't you ever heard of "smart bombs?"


Funny I remember seeing on CNN where a bomb hit these people house, and the US was Oops sh*t happens. I remember not to long ago a woman and her babies were killed, So I guess sh*t happened again, so it's Our bad that people are growing up without moms and dads.

[Fleet]

Funny I remember seeing on CNN where a bomb hit these people house, and the US was Oops sh*t happens. I remember not to long ago a woman and her babies were killed, So I guess sh*t happened again, so it's Our bad that people are growing up without moms and dads.
I didn't say that every single one of the hundreds of thousands of bombs dropped worked perfectly. Targets are always missed at times in every war.
I'm saying that we have the technology of making smart bombs.

[Brieannas21]

I didn't say that every single one of the hundreds of thousands of bombs dropped worked perfectly. Targets are always missed at times in every war.
I'm saying that we have the technology of making smart bombs.


BINGO! And in the process people lose mothers, children, fathers grandparents, aunts and uncles. And it's happened way more then just a few times. Those people are poor, it's not like they can pick up and move away from danger.

I'm done with this convo, I've made my point. I don't want Solomon crying saying that we are off topic.

[Fleet]

BINGO! And in the process people lose mothers, children, fathers grandparents, aunts and uncles. And it's happened way more then just a few times. Those people are poor, it's not like they can pick up and move away from danger.

I'm done with this convo, I've made my point. I don't want Solomon crying saying that we are off topic.
In case you don't realize, people do get killed in wars.

In Iraq, they were already losing mothers, fathers, etc during Saddam's regime when they were being dragged out of their houses during the night to the torture and rape rooms. And being put into (while still alive) grinding machines.

[Janice]

I don't know what happened to WTC7, I wasn't there. She says that a plane didn't hit it, I know a plane didn't hit it, she thinks that the government had something to do with WTC7.

So you're a conspiracy theorist too. Here you go. Page 5.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1

WTC 7 Collapse

CLAIM: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."

FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#) of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors--along with the building's unusual construction--were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

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FINE LINES: Revisionists say sharp spikes (graph 1, above) mean bombs toppled the WTC. Scientists disprove the claim with the more detailed graph 2 (below).

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Seismograph readings by Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University/Won-Young Kim (senior research scientist)/Arthur Lerner-Lam (associate director)/Mary Tobin (senior science writer)/www.ldeo.columbia.edu/lcsn (http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/lcsn)

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FIRE STORM: WTC 7 stands amid the rubble of the recently collapsed Twin Towers. Damaged by falling debris, the building then endures a fire that rages for hours. Experts say this combination, not a demolition-style implosion, led to the roofline "kink" that signals WTC 7's progressive collapse.

PHOTOGRAPH (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#) BY NEW YORK OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

[Fleet]

She says that a plane didn't hit it, I know a plane didn't hit it, she thinks that the government had something to do with WTC7.
That's her problem right there. Only left-wing wackos really believe that the government arranged to have airplanes fly into buildings and kill thousands of Americans. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Janice]

That's her problem right there. Only left-wing wackos really believe that the government arranged to have airplanes fly into buildings and kill thousands of Americans. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
Right, or that a smaller building next to the towers, that caught fire, can't fall down on its own. Like Rosie says, "It's impossible to melt steel with fire." I wonder what blacksmiths have done for all these years. :lol:

[Fleet]

Right, or that a smaller building next to the towers, that caught fire, can't fall down on its own. Like Rosie says, "It's impossible to melt steel with fire." I wonder what blacksmiths have done for all these years. :lol:
Or that bridge in San Francisco in which a semi ran into and caught fire.
The (steel) bridge melted! (But remember, fire doesn't melt steel).
Notice that Rosie hasn't said a word about that bridge fire! :lol:

[Pavan]

“In a statement today, Brian Frons, the president of Disney-ABC's Daytime Television Group, said, "We had hoped that Rosie would be with us until the end of her contract three weeks from now, but Rosie has informed us that she would like an early leave. Therefore, we part ways, thank her for her tremendous contribution to 'The View' and wish her well."

Barbara Walters, the show's creator and co-executive producer, said, "I brought Rosie to the show. Rosie contributed to one of our most exciting and successful years at 'The View.' I am most appreciative. Our close and affectionate relationship will not change."

In her statement, O'Donnell said, "I'm extremely grateful. It's been an amazing year and I love all three women."

And on her Web site Thursday, O'Donnell wrote: "When painting there is a point u must step away from the canvas as the work is done."

O'Donnell announced at the end of April she was leaving "The View," and her last day was supposed to be June 20.“

[Fleet]

In her statement, O'Donnell said, "I'm extremely grateful. It's been an amazing year and I love all three women."

Liar. :D

And on her Web site Thursday, O'Donnell wrote: "When painting there is a point u must step away from the canvas as the work is done."

Translation: "I finally realize that I am turning off more people than even Michael Jackson."