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Pavan
03-23-2007, 05:29 PM
TV Land Builds Ultimate Baby Boomer Entertainment Brand

Network Unveils Upcoming Slate of Original Programming, Newly Acquired Shows, Enhanced Movie Block, Multiplatform Content and New Pro-Social Endeavor Designed to Cater to America's 78 Million Baby Boomers

NEW YORK, March 23 -- TV Land, a division of Viacom's MTV Networks, today announced an ambitious slate of on-and off-air efforts designed to further cater to America's 78 million Baby Boomers. The announcement was made by TV Land President, Larry W. Jones during his remarks before roughly 900 media industry executives in
attendance at the network's annual advertisers' presentation in New York.

In his remarks, Jones underscored TV Land's commitment to super serve Boomers with upcoming originals, newly acquired programming, an expanded roster of popular movies on the network's schedule and Cause Change, TV Land's new pro-social effort that seeks to harness Boomers' desire to give back to society through philanthropy, volunteerism and citizenship.

"TV Land wants to be the brand that understands and appreciates the entertainment and pro-social needs of Baby Boomers," explains Jones. "By expanding on our reach, where Boomers comprise roughly 75 percent of our
target audience, TV Land is uniquely positioned to deliver entertainment and effective pro-social messaging that speaks to the life stage and values
Boomers are currently experiencing. The days of targeting younger audiences, and hoping mature consumers will follow their lead, is now officially over."

Adds Jeff Lucas, Executive Vice President of National Ad Sales for MTV Networks Entertainment Group, "Following in the MTV Networks tradition of
super serving each of its individual audiences -- whether it's men, kids or young adults -- TV Land is locked and loaded to help our marketing partners reach the largest and most affluent generation in U.S. history."

TV Land's on-air and off-air brand strategy is comprised of the following:


Original Programming

Several original shows, pilots and specials will grace the TV Land line-up in the coming weeks and months. Those projects include:

* The Fifth Annual TV Land Awards Show - Hosted by Kelly Ripa, The TV Land Awards is television's only show where contemporary stars come out to honor Classic TV icons. Among this year's honorees include: Roots, which will feature the reunion of several cast members in honor of the epic's 30th Anniversary; Lucille Ball, whose Legacy of Laughter Award will be accepted by her children, Lucie Arnaz and Desi Arnaz, Jr.; The Brady Bunch, which will be feted with the Pop Culture Award in an on-stage reunion of the cast; and Hee Haw, which will be honored with the Entertainer Award. Other honorees and presenters will be announced by TV Land shortly. Airdate: April 22, 2007.

* TV Land Confidential Season 2 - Each 30-minute episode of this returning TV Land series is filled with anecdotes, interviews and clips, bringing viewers the tales behind their favorite TV shows, musical performers and movies. Premiere date: July 11, 2007.

* High School Reunion - (Previously announced; Series in development) TV Land reunites more than a dozen alumni from a 1986 high school class. Where are they now? The jock, the cheerleader, the partier, the bully, the nerd and several others reunite more than twenty years later in a two-week Hawaiian get-away to rekindle past relationships, rivalries and romances. Premiere date: August 8, 2007.

* TV Land Myths & Legends: Elvis Presley - Based on the popularity of season one of TV Land Myths & Legends, this half-hour special coincides with TV Land's month-long salute to Elvis Presley (see acquired programming below). Thirty years after his death, TV Land takes an in-depth look at some of the most popularly held notions about the "King of Rock and Roll" and dissects them to separate fact from fiction.
Airdate: August 16, 2007.

* Back to the Grind - This half-hour series takes iconic TV performers --from Loni Anderson to Harry Anderson and other actors not named "Anderson" -- and has them perform the real-life version of the jobs their characters held on Classic TV shows like WKRP in Cincinnati and Night Court. Airdate: October 10, 2007.

* Entertainment Weekly & TV Land Present: The 50 Greatest TV Icons - TV Land partners with America's premier entertainment magazine to create a comprehensive look at the 50 Greatest TV Icons, all culled from over 50 years of television. This 2-hour special will be shown on TV Land on November 16, 2007.

* Penny and Cindy - (Previously announced; Pilot in Development) This scripted buddy comedy reunites actresses and real-life friends Penny Marshall and Cindy Williams, who gained fame and prominence on their enduring sitcom, Laverne & Shirley. Airdate: TBA.

* 35 and Beyond Super Model Search - (Series in Development) This one-of-a-kind series takes TV Land audiences to New York's Wilhelmina Models Inc., where the would-be models are -- gasp! -- 35 and older. TV Land will feature the aspiring models in this elimination competition to select one winner for a lucrative modeling contract. Airdate: TBA.

* Celebrity Love Cruise - (Previously announced; Series in Development) Celebrities take to the high seas looking for love in this reality show.
Airdate: TBA.

* Family Foreman - (Previously announced; Pilot in Development). TV Land gives viewers an intimate look at George Foreman, the former heavyweight boxing champ who reinvented himself into a successful businessman and pitchman. Viewers will get a rare glimpse into his home life as a minister and father to ten children, five of whom are also named George!
Airdate: TBA.

* The Big 4-0 - (Previously announced; Pilot in Development) TV Land viewers are invited to see real people in action as they prepare for another one of life's milestones -- cart-wheeling into a new life-stage as a person in their 40s. Airdate: TBA.

* The Story Of . . . (Pilot in Development) - This TV show takes a fun, in-depth look at fads, trends and pop cultural phenomena fueled by the TV Generation. From Disco to physical fitness crazes to plastic surgery, each installment will explore one pop culture topic. Airdate: TBA.



Acquired Programming

Furthering its commitment to expanding the network's roster of hit acquired programming, TV Land will showcase a month-long salute to Elvis
Presley and add the popular series' Scrubs and Just Shoot Me to the TV Land schedule. Roll-out is as follows:

* Elvis Month - TV Land remembers the "King of Rock and Roll" by showcasing Elvis concerts, TV appearances, movies and biographies beginning on Friday, August 3, 2007 and airing throughout the entire month of August. Among the music-based programming, TV Land will present Elvis: '68 Comeback Special, Aloha from Hawaii, Elvis: The Great Performances and Ed Sullivan's Rock and Roll Classics: Elvis Presley.

The network will also feature documentaries including Elvis By the Presleys, Elvis on Tour and Elvis: His Best Friend Remembers. Several movies will complement the schedule including Love Me Tender; Easy Come, Easy Go; Fun in Acapulco and several others.

* Scrubs - TV Land proudly adds the winner of TV Land's 2001 Future Classic Award to its schedule beginning in October, 2008. The series follows life at Sacred Heart Hospital and the comic adventures -- and stream-of-conscious thought bubbles -- of the hospital staff. The series stars Zach Braff, Donald Faison, Sarah Chalke, John C. McGinley and Judy Reyes.

* Just Shoot Me - This hilarious office comedy follows life at Blush Magazine, where a desperate writer -- in need of work -- joins her father on-staff at this cutting-edge fashion magazine. Coming to TV Land in first quarter, 2008 the series stars Laura San Giacomo, George Segal, Wendie Malick and David Spade.

TV Land is Movie Land
Beginning Friday, April 6, 2007, TV Land will cement Friday nights at 10 PM (ET/PT) as the network's signature movie block featuring some of the most beloved, enduring and iconic movies that Boomers fell in love with at the multiplex or first experienced through television. Among the films to
be shown on TV Land include: The Blues Brothers Movie; Beetlejuice; Caddyshack; Fletch; National Lampoon's Vacation; Pleasantville; White Men
Can't Jump; Working Girl; Young Frankenstein and several others. For more information on the movie block, please visit http://www.tvland.com.


Multi-platform Content
Armed with a new broadband media player -- which debuted in August, 2006 -- and one of the deepest online libraries featuring hundreds of
television clips, celebrity interviews, classic TV commercials and several other features, TVLand.com will continue to serve as the network's showcase for multi-platform content. Now averaging over one million video streams
per month and with traffic that has grown 66% since the launch of the player, online fans can find content that complements TV Land's original
and classic TV programming, access exclusive footage, play interactive games and share content with other fans. TVLand.com will also feature
interviews with the creators, actors and producers from TV history from the Academy of Television Arts and Science "Archive of American Television."

TV Land fans can have their say about TV Land programming through cell phone text messaging on programs such as TV Land and Entertainment Weekly Present: The 50 Greatest TV Icons, The Annual TV Land Awards and 35 and Beyond. Additionally, TV Land will showcase original programming with podcasts available for subscription on TV Land.com and iTunes. Full
episodes will also be available to watch on TVLand.com or purchase via iTunes.

TV Land is also going mobile with a Wireless Access Protocol (WAP) version of its popular tvland.com website. The site will feature ad-supported content centered on its archive of the most beloved classic TV shows and new original series and specials. TV Land fans will be able to test their knowledge of classic TV with a celebrity photo trivia game and a daily "Today in TV Land History" fact as well. Look for this new TV Land Mobile application to debut 2nd quarter 2007. More features will be added throughout the year.

Pro-Social
Beginning October 1, 2007 and beyond, TV Land will encourage its multi-platform audiences to give back to society through Cause Change, TV Land's newest pro-social initiative. On-going on-air promotion will underscore the personal and social benefits of giving back to society through philanthropy, volunteerism and good citizenship. On-air, the effort will showcase individuals who contribute to the well -being of others and
viewers will be directed to http://www.tvland.com to learn more about how they can participate and help. On TVLand.com, Cause Change will link to
other sites for more information on how they can be involved.

clj2
03-23-2007, 05:32 PM
Well, they've cracked. Scrubs? Just Shoot Me? Couldn't we have at least gotten 70s or 80s? They have absolutely LOST IT! :(

storrs19
03-23-2007, 05:41 PM
100% Agreed. Scrubs and Just Shoot Me on TVLand????????
Why not go ahead and add Desperate Housewives and Survivor :rolleyes:
Thank God I no longer watch this poor excuse for a tv channel.

clj2
03-23-2007, 05:42 PM
Don't forget Designing Women coming too. I'd rather see test patterns from the 80s-today..

Pavan
03-23-2007, 06:11 PM
Scrubs and Just Shoot Me are real surprise pick-ups. They were probably originally for Nick at Nite, but that brand is now all families. Friends will for sure still come to NAN, but anything else non-family has no chance on Nick at Nite now. Scrubs and JSM will for sure air post 11pm, they are late night type shows.

Anyway, read the blog on the TV Land upfront: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2007/03/tv-land-upfront-2007-original-series.html

clj2
03-23-2007, 06:31 PM
So who's willing to bet that they'll air The Nanny instead of N@N?

Pavan
03-23-2007, 06:32 PM
The Nanny is coming in 2009, but yes, probably on TV Land instead, but that is not certain yet. Maybe by next upfront we will know.

Friends isn't until 2011, but I'm sure Nick at Nite would want that.

TVJunkie101
03-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Is this some bad joke? First SoapNet revamps it's lineup and makes it look ridiculous and now TV Land will add Scrubs and Just Shoot Me. Does TVL actually expect them to be ratings grabbers? No offense to fans of them, but come on! Neither show belongs on TV Land. At ALL.

This is pure crap.

Adamantium
03-23-2007, 06:43 PM
Okay, first I had to give my Nick at Nite to the 1990s and today sitcoms. And now I HAVE to give TV Land up to the 1990s and today sitcoms?!? First of all, I like a lot of sitcoms from the 1990s and even some from today, but they do NOT belong on N@N and expecially TV Land. I thought, when they changed N@N to Modern Classics that TV Land was supposed to be the place for classic programming from the 50s, 60s, 70s and even some 80s.

This is good for the "Just Shoot Me!" fans, since the DVDs don't seem to be coming. I just wish it wasn't on TV Land. And they don't even need to worry about "Scrubs." It's still on the air. It doesn't need to come immediately to TV Land. Let it wait twenty years or so. What's the hurry?

The more I read up on N@N and TV Land's new schedules, the more I'm glad I have my DVD collection. That makes it possible for me to skip over TV Land and N@N. I just wish I didn't have to. :(

friendsfan77
03-23-2007, 06:56 PM
WTF. Seriously, are the people coming up with these decisions smoking something? What are they THINKING?! I like JSM and Scrubs but THEY DO NOT FIT on TVLand. Period. Just when I thought they could not get any worse.

It sucks that I have hardly anything positive about most of my favorite channels or channels I have interest in these days. It really, really does. I hate being negative, but for a good while now N@N, TVLand, and now even SoapNet's not giving me much if any reason to smile. There's not that much if any positivity left. It's just that simple. *scoffs* TVLand... no wonder they don't use their "TV Satisfaction Guaranteed" slogan anymore. People probably started asking for their money back.
And they don't even need to worry about "Scrubs." It's still on the air. It doesn't need to come immediately to TV Land. Let it wait twenty years or so. What's the hurry?
Not to mention that it already airs on Comedy Central.

I can't wait for Ion to expand.

Pavan
03-23-2007, 07:10 PM
TV Land is catering to boomers. Shows that boomers grew up with and shows that boomers watch now. Boston Legal is watched my a ton of boomers, so I wouldn't be surprised if that were picked-up next, but that might be a bit expensive for them.

clj2
03-23-2007, 07:17 PM
PB, what do you think the odds are of a network for shows from the 50s, 60s, and 70s (maybe even some 80s), sorta like TVL from 2000-2004 surfacing in the future?

Pavan
03-23-2007, 07:20 PM
I'm not sure if there will ever be one. Maybe a digital channel or OnDemand channel something. With DVDs and the way to watch TV reruns changing, it will be hard to get a channel for just 50s/60s shows.

ION might be a great place for 70s/80s shows. I think that channel has a lot of potential and when the paid programming is finally gone, it will become loads better than TV Land.

And for this boomer study, TV Land did, I remember many people were so happy they did that. I said back then, it's not a great thing really. They added some shows boomers grew up with (Star Trek, MASH, Munsters). Did you guys not forget they would do a study on what boomers watch now? And now you'll get some of those shows (Scrubs, JSM).

catsrule
03-23-2007, 07:27 PM
Scrubs and Just Shoot Me are terrible pick-ups, way too modern. :wallbang :wallbang If they had to pick up modern shows why couldn't it be something good, like Early Edition or Hope & Faith? And too many reality shows, this TVLand upfront sucked. :( :mad:

Zoneboy
03-23-2007, 07:31 PM
Viacom needs to fire that idiot Larry Jones.

TVJunkie101
03-23-2007, 07:57 PM
I didn't even think about them adding shows that boomers watch now. Ugh. I'm so mad. TV Land needs a second channel.

Pav, I know this isn't the thread for Ion but ANY clue when the paid programming will go away? Any hope it becomes 24 hours, or even 12 hours? Ion is our last hope, IMO, for anything 70s and 80s. I am STOKED for Wonder Years and Alice next month. It's like a dream come true, lol.

Madness
03-23-2007, 08:15 PM
I like Just Shoot Me, could care less about Scrubs...but I really don't see them doing well for TV Land. And they definitely don't belong on TV Land-I wouldn't even consider them for the network for at least another 10 years. I'm just glad there's about 500 other channels to watch when these things happen!

clj2
03-23-2007, 08:45 PM
Pav, in case you don't see my other post, is RTN/Retro Television Network going to become a national cable/broadcast channel like ION, and be available to cable/satellite providers also? If not, I hope they do eventually. They have a great line-up!

Pavan
03-23-2007, 08:57 PM
RTN plans to go national on July 7. See Tuesday's blog. No other details are available, but it seems like they will be in limited markets come July 7. Right now they operate a number of local channels, again see Tuesday's blog to see those.

I don't know how they would go national, since the RTN local channels all air sort of different programming...maybe by July 7 they all will air the same thing, but not sure. I guess they can air on a broadcast channel's digital channel.

JulieSomoski
03-23-2007, 09:22 PM
Why would TV Land even think about picking up Scrubs and Just Shoot Me? One is still on the air, and Just Shoot Me was a huge disgrace for a sitcom. It's unbelievable that TVLand is as desperate to pick up still airing sitcoms. If they are not airing at like 3 in the morning, I'm going to be extremely angry.

Why wouldn't The Nanny come to Nick at Nite? It's a family show, and would seem to fit NAN's audience. At least SCrubs is not coming to Nick at Nite, because that would take away the chance of some real classics coming to the network.

Also, was any reason given to pick up these shows for NIck at Nite, PB? I just don't get it.

The one thing I am looking forward to is the movies. Sounds like some good movies - especially Pleasantville. I still love that movie.

Pavan
03-23-2007, 09:26 PM
Why would TV Land even think about picking up Scrubs and Just Shoot Me?

TV Land is catering to baby boomers. Show that baby boomers grew up with and shows that baby boomers watch now (Scrubs).

TVJunkie101
03-23-2007, 09:30 PM
I'm intrigued about Retro TV ... can't you give us any clue Pav?

GoldenGirlsFan92
03-23-2007, 10:58 PM
Is there any date/month of when Home Improvement will be coming to Nick@Night?

JT
03-24-2007, 12:04 AM
This ****ing blows. This. ****ing. Blows.

TVLand plans on adding a CURRENT sitcom in a year and a half. Not to mention a not-very-popular sitcom from the late 1990s. WHY? No news at all of any *real* TVLand shows coming to reruns. A slew of originals, though. I don't give a **** what their new slogan is, or what their new theme of programming is. They're selling out, and they are doing it in the worst way possible. Only five years ago, I LOVED this channel. LOVED IT. I watched it 95% of the day. But now I believe I just won't watch anymore. I can watch "Little House on the Prairie" on Hallmark. I love "Three's Company," but I don't have an immense desire to watch only the Priscilla Barnes episodes (because they rarely show most of the episodes from seasons three and four...). TVLand is dead to me.

And, since I just read the blog, SOAPnet is dead to me before it even came alive for me. I did the soap opera thing and had an abortion of it. Who in the HELL do they think they are? They want to lure in all of the little hoochie mamas so they replace the extremely popular primetime soap operas with "One Tree Hill" and "The OC." Newsflash, dearies at SOAPnet, I'm a part of this generation you're trying to cater to, and most of my contemporaries don't watch reruns, no matter what shows they are. And then those bastards only have "Ryan's Hope" on ONCE. A. WEEK. THIS IS A SHOW THAT PRODUCED 3,515 EPISODES IN 14 YEARS! FOURTEEN YEARS!!!!!! YOU DON'T AIR THAT ONCE A WEEK, YOU STUPID MOTHER****ERS!!!!!!

And they dropped "Another World!" WHY!? WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THAT?! And they are pretty much preparing "Dallas" fans for its demise. By the end of this year, they'll surely drop all real soap reruns and strictly air "today's soaps tonight (squee!!!)" and reruns of MyNetworkTV's bull**** crapfests.

These two channels...I swear...I wanted them both *so* badly. I wanted TVLand so much back in the late 1990s and early early 2000s. So much! And I finally got it. And it was so great for a good two or three years. But then...it just started to drown...and drown...and fall...and fall. And now it's gone. It's turned into something that I no longer recognize or care to even acknowledge. I'd shed no tears if TVLand was taken away from me tomorrow.

And SOAPnet...anybody who's posted here long enough knows my story there. For the last five years I have been *YEARNING* for this soap opera mecca. This was a channel that showed "Ryan's Hope" reruns daily. "Knots Landing," "Falcon Crest," "Hotel," "Sisters," "The Colbys," and later on, "Dynasty," "Another World," and "Dallas." And even later, "Melrose Place" and "Paper Dolls." They aired classic episodes of the current daytime soaps monthly. This channel aired "All My Children" episodes from 1970, 1971, 1979, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1991, and 1997. CLASSIC, RARE programming that will most likely NEVER EVER EVER EVER see the light of day EVER AGAIN, EVER! Nearly 60 years of a genre that will never ever ever ever get a fair chance of ever ever ever ever being relived. EVER. SOAPnet was supposed to be the HOME for this stuff. People were highly anticipating the plethora of soaps that SOAPnet could have picked up. "Loving," "Santa Barbara," "Capitol," "The Edge of Night," "Love of Life," "Search for Tomorrow." But no. NEVER. EVER. EVER!!!!!!!! IT'S SO UNFAIR!

Screw cable television! SCREW IT!!!!

tvparadise
03-24-2007, 12:29 AM
I don't understand the logic in getting rid of shows like 'Cheers', 'Night Court', 'Wings', ect... and bringing in newer/less successful series such as 'Just Shoot Me' and 'Scrubs'???

Pavan
03-24-2007, 01:21 AM
I don't understand the logic in getting rid of shows like 'Cheers', 'Night Court', 'Wings', ect... and bringing in newer/less successful series such as 'Just Shoot Me' and 'Scrubs'???

Their baby boomer study shows that Scrubs does well in baby boomers...I'd assume the same for Just Shoot Me. I really don't see these airing before 11pm anyway.

Pavan
03-24-2007, 01:25 AM
I'm intrigued about Retro TV ... can't you give us any clue Pav?

What do you mean? RTN is currently on a handful of digital local channels. They will be expanding to nationwide on July 7. So if you have digital cable, you might get it. They are usually DT or LP stations. For example WNGS in Buffalo is the digital station for WKBW-ABC.
http://www.retrotelevision.net/shows.html

I don't think they plan on becoming a full a cable network like TV Land or an analog broadcast network like ION, it will probably be on much more digital local channels by July 7. Hard to explain.

Scoobiedoo30
03-24-2007, 01:56 AM
Will RNT beseen in New Orleans/Kenner

Michael72581
03-24-2007, 02:01 AM
TVLand made a bad decision acquiring "Scrubs" and "Just Shoot Me". "Scrubs" is still on the air and "Just Shoot Me" was never a popular show. Both shows are too new for TVLand. Instead of aiming higher, TVLand is aiming lower. I hate their new slogan. Its the most stupid, dumb, and retarded slogan I ever heard in my life. TVLand's new slogan should be just two words "Trash TV". "Scrubs" and "Just Shoot Me" should be shown in reruns on Comedy Central or Lifetime, NOT TVLand. If TVLand was looking to acquire two sitcoms for October 2008, they should of acquired "Mister Ed" and "The Beverly Hillbillies". They belong back on TVLand. I am so digusted with TVLand that pretty soon im gonna call up my cable company and ask them to take TVLand off my channel lineup. End of story.

Adamantium
03-24-2007, 03:07 AM
You get reality programming on just about every other channel. Heck, I'd be bold enough to say that on EVERY channel you find reality programming. TV Land is supposed to show the old classics and celebrate television and it's herritage. It was supposed to be a 24 hour version of the old Nick at Nite. I should turn to TV Land and get AWAY from reality shows. But instead:

* High School Reunion - (Previously announced; Series in development) TV Land reunites more than a dozen alumni from a 1986 high school class. Where are they now? The jock, the cheerleader, the partier, the bully, the nerd and several others reunite more than twenty years later in a two-week Hawaiian get-away to rekindle past relationships, rivalries and romances. Premiere date: August 8, 2007. What in the world is THIS doing on TV Land?!? This has nothing to do with TV Land, or classic television. Send it over to VH-1. But keep it away from TV Land!

* 35 and Beyond Super Model Search - (Series in Development) This one-of-a-kind series takes TV Land audiences to New York's Wilhelmina Models Inc., where the would-be models are -- gasp! -- 35 and older. TV Land will feature the aspiring models in this elimination competition to select one winner for a lucrative modeling contract. Airdate: TBA. This does NOT belong on TV Land! Take it to Bravo or some other channel. The idea itself isn't what upsets me, but the fact that it's going to air on TV Land is what really ticks me off.

* Celebrity Love Cruise - (Previously announced; Series in Development) Celebrities take to the high seas looking for love in this reality show.
Airdate: TBA. I can see this on E! not on TV Land! In fact, it sort of sounds like an old E! show about celebrities going on dates. This just has them on a boat.

* Family Foreman - (Previously announced; Pilot in Development). TV Land gives viewers an intimate look at George Foreman, the former heavyweight boxing champ who reinvented himself into a successful businessman and pitchman. Viewers will get a rare glimpse into his home life as a minister and father to ten children, five of whom are also named George!
Airdate: TBA. NOTHING TO DO WITH TVLAND AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was bad enough when Mr. T got his own reality show, but at least he had a show (The A-Team) that used to air on TV Land. Same goes for Farrah Fawcett and her crappy show. At least she was a "Charlie's Angel." This is ridiculous!

* The Big 4-0 - (Previously announced; Pilot in Development) TV Land viewers are invited to see real people in action as they prepare for another one of life's milestones -- cart-wheeling into a new life-stage as a person in their 40s. Airdate: TBA. This sounds *sarcasm* Peachy Keen! Why the (Bleep) is this even being created? It doesn't even sound remotely good. It sounds, in fact, like CRAP! Which is, I guess why TV Land is making it.

The words I really want to use, I can't because this is a PG-13 board. But I am really not happy about any of this.

I didn't realize that "catering to Boomers" meant turning a once excellent TV channel into pure and utter crap!

Zoneboy
03-24-2007, 03:32 AM
Their baby boomer study shows that Scrubs does well in baby boomers...I'd assume the same for Just Shoot Me. I really don't see these airing before 11pm anyway.

No offense, Pav. But studys and surveys don't mean a damn thing. Just when did these alleged studies take place? It's no different than the stupid so called classic rock stations in my area that have shoved the same crap down my throat for years. They play the same songs by the same artists day in and day out with hardly any change except maybe on two for tuesday and that's rare.

I have called and complained and I get the same explanation each time, Our surveys indicate that these are the songs that people want to hear. Oddly enough, I was also told that I wasn't the only one complaining but station management felt that they had to cater to the majority so their pathetic programming rages on.

I knew it would be a matter of time before TVWasteland started getting rid of the programming that most all of us enjoyed and started filling the screen with a load of crap. It's the old bait and switch, The channels lure you in with great programming for a few years and then they pull the rug right out from under you. MTV, GSN, Cartoon Network and others are all guilty of this practice.

clj2
03-24-2007, 07:18 AM
Looks like Cosby's coming too, from TheLink


TV Land has acquired substantial rights to 'The Cosby Show' starting in April. I haven't posted anything, because an official revision of the April schedule has not been made or released.

R.I.P., TV Land.

JT
03-24-2007, 10:40 AM
The thing that pisses me off is that AmericanLife TV, way back to the days when it was the Nostalgia Channel, has always catered to the "baby boomer audience," but they've never turned themselves into the crap that TVLand is turning itself into. ALTV is also a very obscure channel, but it's still on the air, dammit, and it churns out some fine product!

Pavan
03-24-2007, 11:22 AM
No offense, Pav. But studys and surveys don't mean a damn thing. Just when did these alleged studies take place? It's no different than the stupid so called classic rock stations in my area that have shoved the same crap down my throat for years. They play the same songs by the same artists day in and day out with hardly any change except maybe on two for tuesday and that's rare.

I have called and complained and I get the same explanation each time, Our surveys indicate that these are the songs that people want to hear. Oddly enough, I was also told that I wasn't the only one complaining but station management felt that they had to cater to the majority so their pathetic programming rages on.

I knew it would be a matter of time before TVWasteland started getting rid of the programming that most all of us enjoyed and started filling the screen with a load of crap. It's the old bait and switch, The channels lure you in with great programming for a few years and then they pull the rug right out from under you. MTV, GSN, Cartoon Network and others are all guilty of this practice.

Zoneboy, I'm not defending them in anyway, but I'm just saying that they acquired them because they do well for baby boomers. They have been doing studies for a number of months now...I have posted press releases on them. TV Land no longer calls themselves a channel for classic TV. They strictly are catering to baby boomers now (shows that they grew up with, shows that they watch now, and original shows with boomer celebrities & real boomers). Notice the TV Land Awards' subtitle isn't A Celebration of Classic TV anymore. The subtitle now is The Ultimate Celebration for the TV Generation.

Pavan
03-24-2007, 11:26 AM
Looks like Cosby's coming too, from TheLink:

TV Land has acquired substantial rights to 'The Cosby Show' starting in April. I haven't posted anything, because an official revision of the April schedule has not been made or released.

I don't think it is airing in April. They have been airing it Sunday nights this month, but that will end after April 1. I guess they will decide when to air it more after this month is done, so they can see how it did on Sunday nights.

Zoneboy
03-24-2007, 11:37 AM
Zoneboy, I'm not defending them in anyway, but I'm just saying that they acquired them because they do well for baby boomers. They have been doing studies for a number of months now...I have posted press releases on them. TV Land no longer calls themselves a channel for classic TV. They strictly are catering to baby boomers now (shows that they grew up with, shows that they watch now, and original shows with boomer celebrities & real boomers). Notice the TV Land Awards' subtitle isn't A Celebration of Classic TV anymore. The subtitle now is The Ultimate Celebration for the TV Generation.

Pav, I never thought you were defending them, I know that you're just reporting what you find out and that doesn't necessarily mean that you agree with it. My gripe was about these so called surveys, I hear about them alot either from tv or radio but I've never participated in one and when I do find out about them, It's always too late to voice an opinion anyway.

Pavan
03-24-2007, 11:44 AM
Here are some of their studies they made public:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154266
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=186507

Zoneboy
03-24-2007, 11:48 AM
Thanks, Pav. Sorry I didn't see this sooner. I'm glad to know that I'm one of these so called baby boomers and that some idiot out there knows the type of programming I want to see.

Brent88
03-24-2007, 11:53 AM
Well I see I still have no reason to watch or care about TV Land. Nothing new for me. :lol:

KurtfromPitts
03-24-2007, 12:59 PM
Scrubs? Just Shoot Me? What next? Friends? Touched By An Angel? [which I enjoy on Hallmark, by the way] Boy, TV BLAND [!] has really gone downhill.

Pavan
03-24-2007, 01:55 PM
Those interested about the RTN programming, go here:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=196996

Moondance
03-24-2007, 04:37 PM
You know what this means, right? They put on these new shows and push the shows we all grew up on, out the door.

TVJunkie101
03-24-2007, 08:01 PM
Oh wow!

That's awesome!

JulieSomoski
03-24-2007, 09:27 PM
I can understand wanting to fulfill baby boomers, but what I don't get is why they have to be such recent shows. They could have tried many other classic shows that did/do well wtih baby boomers.

It's good to see The Cosby Show making the transition from Nick at NIte to TVLand. Maybe soon The Cosby Show will be off NAN altogether, and onto TVland entirely.

HugeTVFan
03-24-2007, 10:23 PM
Scrubs and Just Shoot Me are real surprise pick-ups. They were probably originally for Nick at Nite, but that brand is now all families. Friends will for sure still come to NAN, but anything else non-family has no chance on Nick at Nite now. Scrubs and JSM will for sure air post 11pm, they are late night type shows.

Anyway, read the blog on the TV Land upfront: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2007/03/tv-land-upfront-2007-original-series.html
Yes the Scrubs thing is a shocker to me too (considering that it isn't even a 90's show but a new millenium show) and Just Shoot Me kind of shocks me but not as much. Still this is great in a way!

robyrob
03-24-2007, 10:27 PM
if TVLand is giving up on classic tv altogether they should change the name and logos and everything too then - people EXPECT TVLand to be classic TV.

i suggest they go with GenerationTV - "television for the recently deceased"

Pavan
03-24-2007, 11:37 PM
Looking at that study TV Land did about what shows boomers watch/like:

Among Boomer Men, the top shows of all time are:
- M*A*S*H
- Star Trek
- The Andy Griffith Show
- 24 tied with . . .
- Seinfeld

Among Boomer Women, the top shows of all time are:
- CSI
- M*A*S*H
- Law & Order
- I Love Lucy tied with . . .
- ER

The men's first three are on TV Land already. 24 hasn't gotten a cable deal yet (too expensive to buy, TNT or FX would go after it first) and Seinfeld is going to be on TBS for years to come.
As for the women's top shows, CSI is on sister net Spike TV...I would NOT be surprised if TV Land started airing it in 2008, sharing with Spike. Not sure how long TNT has Law & Order for, but I doubt TV Land goes after that. Lucy and MASH are on TV Land already, and an interesting one on that list is ER...which expires from TNT at the end of September....TV Land eying it? Hmm...
And when Friends comes to Nick at Nite in 2011...still years away, but probably will be both on TV Land and Nick at Nite. Just my thoughts.

JT
03-25-2007, 12:13 AM
Looking at that study TV Land did about what shows boomers watch/like:

Among Boomer Men, the top shows of all time are:
- M*A*S*H
- Star Trek
- The Andy Griffith Show
- 24 tied with . . .
- Seinfeld

Among Boomer Women, the top shows of all time are:
- CSI
- M*A*S*H
- Law & Order
- I Love Lucy tied with . . .
- ER

The men's first three are on TV Land already. 24 hasn't gotten a cable deal yet (too expensive to buy, TNT or FX would go after it first) and Seinfeld is going to be on TBS for years to come.
As for the women's top shows, CSI is on sister net Spike TV...I would NOT be surprised if TV Land started airing it in 2008, sharing with Spike. Not sure how long TNT has Law & Order for, but I doubt TV Land goes after that. Lucy and MASH are on TV Land already, and an interesting one on that list is ER...which expires from TNT at the end of September....TV Land eying it? Hmm...
And when Friends comes to Nick at Nite in 2011...still years away, but probably will be both on TV Land and Nick at Nite. Just my thoughts.
Would not be surprised if either "Law and Order" or "ER" showed up soon. If the westerns' ratings ever start to drop, those two shows would be easy replacements for them.

And I agree with robyrob. This would be a lot less painful if they had made a public announcement that they are no longer a classic TV network are now focusing on a particular demographic. I respected NAN when they finally admitted to changing their format. I'd disrespect TVLand just a little bit less if they did the same.

storrs19
03-25-2007, 09:26 AM
Well, I guess I don't fit in any category as I am only 35 and only watch shows pre-1990. Anyway, I actually do like some 1980's shows but they do not belong on TVLand.
Why the heck can't some network pickup Different Strokes, Facts Of Life, Gimme A Break, and Mr. Belvedere?

I have just about given up on television other than TCM and ALN. ALN (formerly Nostalgia Channel) still shows great programs and airs them unedited. In the last 15 years I have seen every channel I ever liked (except the above two
mentioned) go down the drain so I am used to it.

I just have a feeling there are some shows I may never see again in my life as they are approaching 50 years old and are in black and white. I sure hope someday we get to choose our cable channels ala carte as then my bill will go way down because I will only need about 6 channels total.
It will never happen because then too many channels would be up the creek as no one would pay for them.

TVFactFan
03-25-2007, 02:00 PM
Wow, TV Land had made a big step in the right direction in 2006 with Benson, Good Times, and the Jeffersons and with this 2007 Crap, they have fell 4 steps backward. Keep up the Good Work!!

Stuck In The '70's
03-25-2007, 02:19 PM
We need another network that will air classic tv. TV Land Sucks. I hardly watch it anymore and if this is what their future is I won't be watching it at all. I hate Just Shoot Me and Scrubs I have never been able to get into. Besides it airs on about 3 of my locals anyway.

JT
03-25-2007, 02:32 PM
We need another network that will air classic tv. TV Land Sucks. I hardly watch it anymore and if this is what their future is I won't be watching it at all. I hate Just Shoot Me and Scrubs I have never been able to get into. Besides it airs on about 3 of my locals anyway.
Not to mention Comedy Central.

The "Scrubs" pick-up is just weird, strange, and totally unnecessary. This is show that was named by TVLand as a Future Classic just four or five years ago. Didn't realize they meant Very Near Future Classic.

TVFactFan
03-25-2007, 02:38 PM
Not to mention Comedy Central.

The "Scrubs" pick-up is just weird, strange, and totally unnecessary. This is show that was named by TVLand as a Future Classic just four or five years ago. Didn't realize they meant Very Near Future Classic.


Yeah picking up a show from this era is a little strange

freshprinceofLA
03-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Scrubs and Just shoot me!? What?! That makes no sense at all on tvland! and all those reality series they are putting on tv land is a bad idea. But I do enjoy the shows like tv land's myth's and legends.

friendsfan77
03-25-2007, 07:22 PM
Not to mention Comedy Central.

The "Scrubs" pick-up is just weird, strange, and totally unnecessary. This is show that was named by TVLand as a Future Classic just four or five years ago. Didn't realize they meant Very Near Future Classic.
Scrubs airs on WGN Superstation too as well as Comedy Central and local stations. I like this show, but I think right along with Friends, Roseanne, M*A*S*H* and Fresh Prince, it'll pretty much become the next show rerun into the ground. And like you and I, and practically everyone else has said here, it SO doesn't fit on TVLand.

V20
03-25-2007, 09:26 PM
I too, wish we could have 'A La Carte' cable. There would be at least 20 channels I would drop immediately starting with N@N and TV Wasteland and the shopping channels of course! Then things like VH1, MTV, AMC would get the ax, among others. It would be the 'cable TV massacre'.

Outside of my local over the air channels, there might be 10 or 12 channels I would cherry pick (History Channel, TMC being two of them) as well as anything showing 1950's and (some) 60's sitcoms (if any such channel even exists.)

I agree that many cable channels would be going belly up left and right as no one would pay for them. Cable 'a la carte' is the most terrifying phrase you can utter to the cable TV providers. Then they might have to give us something we like, instaed of force feeding us 20 channels nobody wants to get one that we will watch.

Adamantium
03-25-2007, 10:22 PM
I too, wish we could have 'A La Carte' cable. There would be at least 20 channels I would drop immediately starting with N@N and TV Wasteland and the shopping channels of course! Then things like VH1, MTV, AMC would get the ax, among others. It would be the 'cable TV massacre'.

Outside of my local over the air channels, there might be 10 or 12 channels I would cherry pick (History Channel, TMC being two of them) as well as anything showing 1950's and (some) 60's sitcoms (if any such channel even exists.)

I agree that many cable channels would be going belly up left and right as no one would pay for them. Cable 'a la carte' is the most terrifying phrase you can utter to the cable TV providers. Then they might have to give us something we like, instaed of force feeding us 20 channels nobody wants to get one that we will watch.

The only cable channel I watch is USA. And that's only for the new episodes of "Monk." Other than that, I don't watch anything on TV, but rather on DVD. It's sad too, because I miss watching N@N and TV Land all the time. I also watched AMC when they had classic movies and no commercials. Nothing is the way it used to be and in this case - change is bad. VH-1 is POINTLESS. They seriously should just change their name to "The Reality Show Channel." Because I don't know what "VH-1" stands for anymore.

I'm not saying that every channel should be filled with classic television. But we need at least one that won't sell out and air current shows mixed with reality shows. We need variety in our cable system. And we don't have that. Every channel is just like the other.

ABC1
03-26-2007, 09:34 PM
I haven't really watched TV Land in a very long time, and based on all the new programming they're adding, I can see that I won't be watching it any time soon either...
I'm just not interested in what they're planning on programming at all.:mad:

benjamoon
03-26-2007, 10:06 PM
I just wanna put this out there... I'm not defending TV Land because I don't really like its direction either but I just wanna say that if you remember when TV Land launched, it was branded as something along the lines of "the good, the weird, and the wonderful" NOT "classic TV" - it was very "retro" oriented and in 1996, they were airing shows like "Hill Street Blues" and "St. Elsewhere" which ended in 1987 and 1988, respectively.

So I guess that is to say that I don't mind TV Land airing more recent stuff (I'm not sure I like the idea of them airing current shows but my thing is, I don't want the schedule to be littered with modern shows and ESPECIALLY originals. I just hope they can keep a good, fair mix

snelson
03-28-2007, 02:53 PM
tvland needs to fire the head programmer and replace him/her with someone who loves classic tv.

ClassicComedyFan2
03-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Wow. TV Land has jumped the shark, landed, built a robot shark voiced by Jonathan Winters in an egg, added a new cousin wrote out the main character, recast a main role and jumped it again!!

I'm 22 next Friday, and was 15 to 18 when I first ran into N@N during the last vestiges of their quite-awesome "100% Unreality" years. Then, TV Land when they were "TV Satisfaction Guaranteed." Nearly every 60s sitcom I watched became either a top favorite ("Hogan's Heroes," "Gomer Pyle," "Get Smart," "I Love Lucy," "The Andy Griffith Show," "Batman") or a show I at least like.

I used to come here montly anticipating their much more fluid and dymanic schedules to see what classic shows were coming and which ones I needed to record to VHS before they were gone! :lol:

The last two years...though...blah doesn't do it justice. Their schedules are static, N@N is now a 90s wasteland (ironically, I don't enjoy the more modern shows, ones I "technically grew up with") and now TV Land is a reality TV dumping ground and now This! Wow. :eek:

All I have to say is Thank Goodness for the explosion of TV on DVD...

R.I.P. TV Land
"TV Satisfaction Launch - 2004"

storrs19
03-29-2007, 09:54 AM
CC2:

It is great to see a young person who likes classic tv. These people in charge think no one under the age of 34 likes anything except shows frrm the last 10 years. I am 35 and remember fondly watching N@N in the mid 1980's when I was a teenager and that is when I really started to appreciate classic tv.

Czas na Zywiec
03-29-2007, 11:25 AM
I'm actually really not surprised - many people here shouldn't be, either. TVLand is just selling out. They're just like any other company in the fact that they want to make as much money as possible - which is reasonable because why be in a business if it's not going to make money for you? If airing Star Trek brings in boatloads more money than airing Eight is Enough, it makes sense to them to put EIE to the side if they're not making as much money off of it. So they keep airing the same crap over and over again because people watch. Unless the show brings in ratings, they couldn't care less whether they air Andy Griffith, Three's Company, or Mr. Belvedere.

NerdOne
04-01-2007, 08:11 PM
CC2, I'm 23 turning 24 in four more months. My cable co first got TVLand in 1998, I was 15 but TVL didn't have any reality shows, and I was happy to relive old classics. I used to have TVLand on all night and day. A way to get away from what shape the world was in at the time. Or having to watch crappy reality programs. In the 80s when Nick At Nite first aired good shows like Dennis the Menance and Get Smart, I was a toddler and my parents would let me and my sister stayed up and watch Flipper, Lassie, Leave it to Beaver, and Dennis the Menance because those was shows for little toddlers to watch, right? N@N sadly has been going downhill for the last four years since they added 80s and 90s classics I was raised on. TVLand, on the other hand, have been going downhill since 2004.

Scrubs? Just Shoot Me? I wouldn't call them classic shows. One is already on the air, the other one airs on WGN, local channels, and Comedy Central. I couldn't get into Scrubs and Just Shoot Me. Yep. Tried both. Couldn't get into them at all. But I can get into Law and Order, CSI, Monk, The Shield, and Lost easily. Reality shows? I don't like reality shows. If I wanted to watch reality shows, I would turn on Bravo, E!, or the networks. I don't watch TVLand very much anymore. It's nothing but the same old episodes of the same shows over and over. A lot of my favorite channels has went downhill over the last six years: Cartoon Network, AMC, A&E, N@N, VH1, MTV, Lifetime, Discovery Health, etc.

clj2
04-03-2007, 07:43 PM
He didn't come out and say it, but from what TheLink says, TV Land has done something with the contracts for Mad About You, Murphy Brown, and Designing Women where they start in 2007 and end at other years. He said some of those are planned for 2008 or something...NewsRadio is also listed as a TV Land show on his Contract Listing post. All of this info. can be found on the Ask TheLink board @ TVLand.com.

I see very major changes coming to TV Land in late 2007/2008. What do I see? The thing most of us have been dreading for years: The 50s , 60s, and maybe 70s being put on the backburner (and eventually removed entirely, probably) in favor of very recent shows. I see the excuse that baby boomers watch the modern shows as a 'cover up' for them to go to more recent shows and eventually drop the baby boomer thing.

comedyfreak
07-06-2007, 03:50 AM
Viacom needs to fire that idiot Larry Jones.
I agree!! I'd say Malcolm In The Middle is more of a classic than Scrubs.

Pavan
07-15-2007, 09:52 PM
Entertainment Weekly and TV Land Collaborate To Present the 50 Greatest TV Icons of All Time

List To Be Revealed in Entertainment Weekly and Two-Hour Original Special to Premiere on TV Land on Friday, November 16

EW.com and TVLand.com Join Forces To Countdown TV Icons 51-100

LOS ANGELES, July 13 -- Oprah. Heather Locklear. Homer Simpson. Regardless of age, TV genre or lifeform, there are select TV personalities whose work is timeless and whose popularity is endless due to the impact they have made through television. Entertainment Weekly and TV Land Present: The 50 Greatest TV Icons, a two-hour special premiering on TV Land on Friday, November 16 from 8-10pm ET/PT, counts down the iconic personalities who have made their indelible mark via the small screen. The list will also be revealed in the issue of Entertainment Weekly on stands that same day.

Whether these beloved performers have made the list because they are game changers like Jerry Seinfeld, have the longevity of Kermit, or the instant rise to super stardom like Farrah, Entertainment Weekly and TV Land Present: The 50 Greatest TV Icons takes a comprehensive look at these respected icons, all culled from over 50 years of television. The TV Land original special and Entertainment Weekly feature story (November 23rd issue, on stands the 16th) both feature interviews with the stars themselves as well as people who have worked with them, knew them, created them or were inspired by them. The Entertainment Weekly story celebrates the list by taking an in-depth look at each of the stars, while TV Land honors the performers in the special by giving viewers access to rarely seen footage that solidifies each icon's place in TV history. The TV Land special is produced by Gay Rosenthal Productions.

"America has gotten to know so many talented performers through television so it was very difficult to narrow the list down to 50," states Larry W. Jones, President, TV Land. "However, when you look at this list, it's clear that these names are in a different league. Their appeal crosses generations and will have the lasting impact that rightfully gives them the icon label. TV Land viewers and Entertainment Weekly readers will have a great time reliving the moments that earned these performers a spot on the list."

"Teaming up with TV Land to name the 50 Greatest TV Icons of All Time is the perfect match for Entertainment Weekly. Readers relish our signature lists, and since we're in a Golden Age of TV it's a great time to celebrate the performers who have elevated the medium over its entire history," says Entertainment Weekly Managing Editor Rick Tetzeli. "This multi-platform campaign helps us serve readers in an even bigger way."

EW.com and TVLand.com will host a supplement list with the names of TV Icons 51-100, a complement to the TV special and magazine. Additionally, the sites will host content that will engage fans by allowing them to see more original interviews with those featured on the list and other celebrities talking about how these icons have inspired them. Specifically, EW.com will have links to all EW articles that have been published on the icons, feature a bracket game that allows fans to vote for their favorite icon and host video of current stars talking about their own favorite icons. TVLand.com will offer classic video clips of icons on the list, celebrity interviews of those on the list and feature a message board for visitors to sound-off about the list.

The 50 Greatest TV Icons is a Gay Rosenthal Production. Executive Producers are Gay Rosenthal and Paul Barrosse from Gay Rosenthal Productions and Sal Maniaci, Senior Vice President, Development and Original Production, TV Land. Co-Executive Producer is Nicholas Caprio and Supervising Producer is Natalie Aaron, both from Gay Rosenthal Productions.

ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY AND EW.COM

Entertainment Weekly, a winner of four National Magazine Awards is America's leading consumer magazine of entertainment and popular culture. The magazine is a wholly owned subsidiary of Time Inc., and has a guaranteed circulation rate base of 1.725 million reaching an audience of 10.7 million readers. EW.com, winner of MPA's best entertainment website of the year, is one of the most popular and most comprehensive sites for online entertainment coverage. EW.com's homepage contains unique, online-only content - articles, photo galleries, reviews, Q&As and blog items, etc. - plus a complete archive of Entertainment Weekly magazine.

Funnyyousaythat
07-19-2007, 08:31 PM
Those specials are usually well-made but didn't TV Guide already do this at least in print form in the past ten years. How about a new idea?

Funnyyousaythat
07-19-2007, 08:33 PM
That makes no sense. TV Land does not appeal at all to a young urban demo. Their biggest shows are bumpkin sitcom Andy Griffith and ancient horse pucky Bonanza. And bringing in creaky hausfrau programming like Extreme Makeover: Home Edition will only age them faster.

Ireneparalegal
07-19-2007, 09:02 PM
Those specials are usually well-made but didn't TV Guide already do this at least in print form in the past ten years. How about a new idea?
Yeah, kinda like Saturday Night Live. How abt that stale, rotting, old, same ol' gags, etc. They are over, done, kaput and should go out NOW. :lol:

Funnyyousaythat
07-20-2007, 01:06 PM
Right. And boomers are no longer a young demo. Boston Legal skews older than most dramas outside of the CBS line-up. What they fail to recognize is youthful shows of earlier eras could also appeal to the current young demo. It's worked for Brady Bunch and many other shows for decades. TV Land seems more interested in jumping on board of the reality bandwagon and their choices equally do not appeal to youth who never followed the careers of Loni Anderson or Erik Estrada.

Funnyyousaythat
07-20-2007, 01:07 PM
Yeah, kinda like Saturday Night Live. How abt that stale, rotting, old, same ol' gags, etc. They are over, done, kaput and should go out NOW. :lol:

You claim to have not even seen the show since the 70s so you're just embarrassing yourself.

The show is making a fortune with young audiences and recent digital technology.

Ireneparalegal
07-20-2007, 03:27 PM
You claim to have not even seen the show since the 70s so you're just embarrassing yourself.

The show is making a fortune with young audiences and recent digital technology.
Learn to read correctly, I never said I haven't seen it since the 70's. DUH!:rolleyes:

Funnyyousaythat
07-20-2007, 06:08 PM
So you still watch it and complain. You just can't argue with ignorance. You can continue to howl at the moon. You have no credence.

TJ
07-20-2007, 06:13 PM
Can you guys please both drop this? I'm not going to have you go around and harrass each other in every thread. This needs to end now.

Pavan
08-16-2007, 02:52 PM
TV Land and Wilhelmina Models, Inc. Partner to Find the Next Great Supermodel Age 35 and Older



Winner Awarded Lucrative Modeling Contract
Search Is Documented in Six-Part Reality Series Premiering this Spring on
TV Land
Log on to TVLand.com for Application and Rules

NEW YORK, Aug. 16 -- TV Land and Wilhelmina Models, Inc. today announced a partnership to discover the next new face of the fashion industry. Documented in a six-part series tentatively titled The Next Great Supermodel, TV Land and Wilhelmina Models, Inc. will scour the country -- and put the would-be models to the test -- to find their next star: a woman 35 or over who exudes sophistication, beauty and confidence.

The Next Great Supermodel will premiere on TV Land in the Spring of 2008 and is being executive produced by Emmy Award Winner Allison Grodner (Big Brother, Blowout). The winner of the reality series competition will receive a lucrative modeling contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc.

"We're so excited to move forward with this project to give much-needed representation on television to the beauty of women in their Power Years," states Larry W. Jones, President, TV Land. "It's such a thrill to partner with legendary modeling agency Wilhelmina in this endeavor. Clearly, we are at a point in American culture when being 35 and over in the modeling industry no longer means over the hill, it means big bucks and lots of opportunity."

"This will be an exciting journey across the USA," said Sean Patterson, President of Wilhelmina. "We are looking for women who embody what every model should regardless of age and that is the utmost beauty and confidence."

Beginning today, TV Land and Wilhelmina's Model Search team is combing the country to find the greatest assemblage of aspiring undiscovered models age 35 and older. Then, kicking off on September 29, the series' host and a panel of judges will attend regional auditions in Los Angeles, New York, Atlanta and Chicago to pare down the group to just 20 contenders. The aspirants will then be flown to New York to live in a house together where they will face various challenges such as photo shoots and tests on their fashion know-how. Eliminations will occur weekly until the ultimate winner is crowned.

TV Land is inviting all would-be models 35 and over to visit TVLand.com to submit an application and pictures. In addition, the website will outline the rules of the competition and will feature all of the regional audition sites and dates.

The Next Great Supermodel is an Allison Grodner Production with Allison Grodner Executive Producing. Sean Patterson and Corey Preston are Executive Producers for Wilhelmina. Keith Cox is Executive Producer and Marco Bresaz is Executive in Charge of Production for TV Land.


About Wilhelmina
Wilhelmina is one of the largest model agency chains in the world, founded by legendary model, Wilhelmina Cooper in 1967. Today, they lead the industry in diversity and depth, and represent some of the biggest models, and celebrity talent in the world. Sean Patterson is the President of Wilhelmina Models. Dieter Esch is Chairman. They have offices in New York, Los Angeles and Miami as well as licensees across the U.S.

JulieSomoski
08-16-2007, 04:52 PM
TV Land and Wilhelmina Models, Inc. Partner to Find the Next Great Supermodel Age 35 and Older



Winner Awarded Lucrative Modeling Contract
Search Is Documented in Six-Part Reality Series Premiering this Spring on
TV Land
Log on to TVLand.com for Application and Rules

NEW YORK, Aug. 16 -- TV Land and Wilhelmina Models, Inc. today announced a partnership to discover the next new face of the fashion industry. Documented in a six-part series tentatively titled The Next Great Supermodel, TV Land and Wilhelmina Models, Inc. will scour the country -- and put the would-be models to the test -- to find their next star: a woman 35 or over who exudes sophistication, beauty and confidence.

The Next Great Supermodel will premiere on TV Land in the Spring of 2008 and is being executive produced by Emmy Award Winner Allison Grodner (Big Brother, Blowout). The winner of the reality series competition will receive a lucrative modeling contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc.

"We're so excited to move forward with this project to give much-needed representation on television to the beauty of women in their Power Years," states Larry W. Jones, President, TV Land. "It's such a thrill to partner with legendary modeling agency Wilhelmina in this endeavor. Clearly, we are at a point in American culture when being 35 and over in the modeling industry no longer means over the hill, it means big bucks and lots of opportunity."

"This will be an exciting journey across the USA," said Sean Patterson, President of Wilhelmina. "We are looking for women who embody what every model should regardless of age and that is the utmost beauty and confidence."

Beginning today, TV Land and Wilhelmina's Model Search team is combing the country to find the greatest assemblage of aspiring undiscovered models age 35 and older. Then, kicking off on September 29, the series' host and a panel of judges will attend regional auditions in Los Angeles, New York, Atlanta and Chicago to pare down the group to just 20 contenders. The aspirants will then be flown to New York to live in a house together where they will face various challenges such as photo shoots and tests on their fashion know-how. Eliminations will occur weekly until the ultimate winner is crowned.

TV Land is inviting all would-be models 35 and over to visit TVLand.com to submit an application and pictures. In addition, the website will outline the rules of the competition and will feature all of the regional audition sites and dates.

The Next Great Supermodel is an Allison Grodner Production with Allison Grodner Executive Producing. Sean Patterson and Corey Preston are Executive Producers for Wilhelmina. Keith Cox is Executive Producer and Marco Bresaz is Executive in Charge of Production for TV Land.


About Wilhelmina
Wilhelmina is one of the largest model agency chains in the world, founded by legendary model, Wilhelmina Cooper in 1967. Today, they lead the industry in diversity and depth, and represent some of the biggest models, and celebrity talent in the world. Sean Patterson is the President of Wilhelmina Models. Dieter Esch is Chairman. They have offices in New York, Los Angeles and Miami as well as licensees across the U.S.

Oh come on. Now they're venturing into supermodeling? It's bad enough they got reality shows like back to the Grind running around on their network, but supermodeling? What's next, Cooking with Rosie O'Donnel?

clj2
08-16-2007, 05:42 PM
Oh come on. Now they're venturing into supermodeling? It's bad enough they got reality shows like back to the Grind running around on their network, but supermodeling? What's next, Cooking with Rosie O'Donnel?LOL! This hodge-podge of a network is so pathetic now. Speaking of Rosie, what about re-runs of The View? Seems like something they'd go for.

And what about the high-school reunion program that's coming soon also. They sure must be hurting.

JulieSomoski
08-16-2007, 05:53 PM
LOL! This hodge-podge of a network is so pathetic now. Speaking of Rosie, what about re-runs of The View? Seems like something they'd go for.

And what about the high-school reunion program that's coming soon also. They sure must be hurting.

They're diving themselves way to deep into origianl conten. I mean, most of their viewers, when turning to TVland, probably want to watch classic shows, from "TV Land", not "Originals Land"

Br26
08-16-2007, 08:55 PM
i know a lot of people like to diss tv land lately..but you know, at least its not as bad as Nick at Nite.

Rezny@gmail.com
08-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Speaking of Originals,I suggested year or so ago to the powers that be at TVLand an idea for a TVLand "Inside TVLand"about the history of TV logos(You know,the many Revue/Universal TVLogos,the Screen Gems logos (including the short-lived one during the mid-1960's with the lines,black screen,circular blobs,music and an announcer saying "A Screen Gems Film Presentation"),the TWO (yes,thewre WERE two)Filmways TVProds.logos,the 20th Century Fox TVlogos,the Paramount TVLogos,the Warner Bros.TVlogos,etc.,but nothing came of it.Except for "Green Acres"seasons 4,5,and 6,the first three seasons of "Sanford and Son",and "The Addams Family",I don't watch TVLand.If TVLand wants to attract baby boomers,they should air more shows that the baby boomers grew up with(preferrably from 1960's),INSTEAD of what they THINK baby boomers watch today(e.g.,Scrubs,Just Shoot Me,Extreme Makeover:Home Edition???????)

JulieSomoski
08-16-2007, 11:26 PM
Speaking of Originals,I suggested year or so ago to the powers that be at TVLand an idea for a TVLand "Inside TVLand"about the history of TV logos(You know,the many Revue/Universal TVLogos,the Screen Gems logos (including the short-lived one during the mid-1960's with the lines,black screen,circular blobs,music and an announcer saying "A Screen Gems Film Presentation"),the TWO (yes,thewre WERE two)Filmways TVProds.logos,the 20th Century Fox TVlogos,the Paramount TVLogos,the Warner Bros.TVlogos,etc.,but nothing came of it.Except for "Green Acres"seasons 4,5,and 6,the first three seasons of "Sanford and Son",and "The Addams Family",I don't watch TVLand.If TVLand wants to attract baby boomers,they should air more shows that the baby boomers grew up with(preferrably from 1960's),INSTEAD of what they THINK baby boomers watch today(e.g.,Scrubs,Just Shoot Me,Extreme Makeover:Home Edition???????)

Not to be rude, but TV Logos isn't exactly a things you could do a series on. There isn't enough material to do it on. Just another original show, in my opinion.

Pavan
08-17-2007, 04:37 PM
rodwayne...what good does it do to complain about every single thing? This isn't TV Land. I've yet to see a post from you that is not negative. I'm sure you don't even watch the channel, so why are you complaining?

TVFactFan
08-17-2007, 05:37 PM
rodwayne...what good does it do to complain about every single thing? This isn't TV Land. I've yet to see a post from you that is not negative. I'm sure you don't even watch the channel, so why are you complaining?


Rodwayne's Weekly Premeires on September 1st??-lol

catsrule
08-17-2007, 11:31 PM
rodwayne...what good does it do to complain about every single thing? This isn't TV Land. I've yet to see a post from you that is not negative. I'm sure you don't even watch the channel, so why are you complaining?look at his sig, that screams negativity :lol:

factsoflife
08-28-2007, 02:42 PM
Well, they've cracked. Scrubs? Just Shoot Me? Couldn't we have at least gotten 70s or 80s? They have absolutely LOST IT! :(


i figured both of these would end up on Nick and Nite, but never thought they'd go to TV LAND.

miley&billyrayfan
09-19-2007, 12:54 AM
tv land canada is better than the us channel. canda gets the good shows tv land us sucks.

storrs19
09-20-2007, 10:09 AM
Yes. TVLand Canada has not been ruined yet...but give it time. Nothing good stays that way on tv anymore. Television is such a joke I watch about six channels anymore (History, History International, Turner Classic Movies, and sporting events).

Every channel with the exception of those three has gone straight to pot. TVLand was great for about 5 years as was Game Show Network. Biography Channel used to be about Bigographies, what a great idea for a network so named but anymore they are rarely seen on there :rolleyes: AMC died when they stopped showing classics and got commercial nuts. I have resigned myself to the fact that the only way I will see my shows is to buy them on grey-area dvds, so that is what I am doing and to h**l with tv anymore.

friendsfan77
09-21-2007, 01:07 PM
They're diving themselves way to deep into origianl conten. I mean, most of their viewers, when turning to TVland, probably want to watch classic shows, from "TV Land", not "Originals Land"
I agree. This makes me just wish my cable company Charter would drop TVLand and replace it with American Life.

JulieSomoski
09-21-2007, 03:36 PM
I agree. This makes me just wish my cable company Charter would drop TVLand and replace it with American Life.
I would much rather AmericanLife at this point. They have some of my favorite shows, and the network seems to be growing much better than TVland.

Pavan
10-24-2007, 01:12 PM
TV LAND BEGINS PRODUCTION ON 'SHE'S GOT THE LOOK' REALITY SERIES

Supermodel Kim Alexis Named Host of Series in Search of the Next Great 35 and Beyond Supermodel

Judges Include Supermodel Beverly Johnson, Celebrity Stylist Robert Verdi and Wilhelmina President Sean Patterson

Winner to Receive Modeling Contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc. and Photo Spread in SELF Magazine

New York, NY, October 24, 2007 -- TV Land has begun production on the new reality series She's Got The Look, the search for the next new face of the fashion industry. In partnership with Wilhelmina Models, Inc., the series previously titled The Next Great Supermodel -- sets out to discover the next star: a woman 35 or older who exudes sophistication, beauty and confidence and wants to be a model. One winner will receive a lucrative modeling contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc. and a feature in SELF Magazine. Iconic supermodel Kim Alexis, who has graced the cover of more than 500 magazines, will host She's Got The Look. Supermodel Beverly Johnson -- who made history as the first African-American model to grace the cover of American Vogue -- celebrity stylist Robert Verdi and Wilhelmina President Sean Patterson will be featured as judges on the series. The series is executive produced by Emmy Award-Winner Allison Grodner (Big Brother, Blowout) and is scheduled to debut in early summer 2008.

Currently filming in New York City, She's Got The Look follows 20 women -- all over the age of 35 -- vying for a modeling contract. Selected by TV Land and Wilhelmina's Model Search team after months of auditions and regional competitions around the country, the contenders have been flown to New York to live in a house together to see who has what it takes to be the next great supermodel. Through a series of competitions such as photo shoots and tests on their fashion know-how, women will be eliminated weekly until the ultimate winner is crowned.

"Real women in their 40s and 50s are too often overlooked in the scope of the TV landscape," explains Larry W. Jones, President, TV Land. "TV Land's goal is to tell the rich stories of these striking women in a fun and entertaining way."

"At Wilhelmina, we're beyond excited to use this platform to show viewers our 40-year old company's belief that beauty has no age limits and we're equally ecstatic to add another key talent to our ever expanding roster of beautiful men and women," states Sean Patterson, President of Wilhelmina.

SELF Magazine will feature She's Got The Look and showcase the contenders in an upcoming issue this Spring to coincide with the show's premiere. The winner of the series will subsequently be featured in a fashion spread at a later date. In each episode of the show, a SELF editor will offer the contenders expert Flash! Tips featuring useful advice about beauty, style, fitness and happiness.

JulieSomoski
10-24-2007, 03:45 PM
TV LAND BEGINS PRODUCTION ON 'SHE'S GOT THE LOOK' REALITY SERIES

Supermodel Kim Alexis Named Host of Series in Search of the Next Great 35 and Beyond Supermodel

Judges Include Supermodel Beverly Johnson, Celebrity Stylist Robert Verdi and Wilhelmina President Sean Patterson

Winner to Receive Modeling Contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc. and Photo Spread in SELF Magazine

New York, NY, October 24, 2007 -- TV Land has begun production on the new reality series She's Got The Look, the search for the next new face of the fashion industry. In partnership with Wilhelmina Models, Inc., the series previously titled The Next Great Supermodel -- sets out to discover the next star: a woman 35 or older who exudes sophistication, beauty and confidence and wants to be a model. One winner will receive a lucrative modeling contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc. and a feature in SELF Magazine. Iconic supermodel Kim Alexis, who has graced the cover of more than 500 magazines, will host She's Got The Look. Supermodel Beverly Johnson -- who made history as the first African-American model to grace the cover of American Vogue -- celebrity stylist Robert Verdi and Wilhelmina President Sean Patterson will be featured as judges on the series. The series is executive produced by Emmy Award-Winner Allison Grodner (Big Brother, Blowout) and is scheduled to debut in early summer 2008.

Currently filming in New York City, She's Got The Look follows 20 women -- all over the age of 35 -- vying for a modeling contract. Selected by TV Land and Wilhelmina's Model Search team after months of auditions and regional competitions around the country, the contenders have been flown to New York to live in a house together to see who has what it takes to be the next great supermodel. Through a series of competitions such as photo shoots and tests on their fashion know-how, women will be eliminated weekly until the ultimate winner is crowned.

"Real women in their 40s and 50s are too often overlooked in the scope of the TV landscape," explains Larry W. Jones, President, TV Land. "TV Land's goal is to tell the rich stories of these striking women in a fun and entertaining way."

"At Wilhelmina, we're beyond excited to use this platform to show viewers our 40-year old company's belief that beauty has no age limits and we're equally ecstatic to add another key talent to our ever expanding roster of beautiful men and women," states Sean Patterson, President of Wilhelmina.

SELF Magazine will feature She's Got The Look and showcase the contenders in an upcoming issue this Spring to coincide with the show's premiere. The winner of the series will subsequently be featured in a fashion spread at a later date. In each episode of the show, a SELF editor will offer the contenders expert Flash! Tips featuring useful advice about beauty, style, fitness and happiness.

Does anyone here actually plan on watching that? I know I'll stay as far away as I can.

omg65
10-24-2007, 04:44 PM
Does anyone here actually plan on watching that? I know I'll stay as far away as I can.

And TV Land continues it's sell out.:(
It will be hard to imagine whatTV Land will be like in say 10 years from now.

Buffyboy323
10-24-2007, 05:23 PM
Does anyone here actually plan on watching that? I know I'll stay as far away as I can.
I won't be tuning in either. I can't believe they're going forward with this project. It sounds like a show MTV would come up with.

friendsfan77
10-24-2007, 05:35 PM
^ Exactly. And it doesn't even belong on MTV.

Buffyboy323
10-24-2007, 05:46 PM
^ Exactly. And it doesn't even belong on MTV.
:lol:

TVFactFan
10-24-2007, 06:24 PM
I rather watch a marathon of C-SPAN

JulieSomoski
10-24-2007, 09:20 PM
I rather watch a marathon of C-SPAN

I'd rather watch a weekend of religous programming :eek:

I'm sure in 10 years we'll be seeing TV Land airing music videos, sports programming, and government access, all in the one marathon! I wouldn't be surprised if TVland started airing repeats of current shows, like Til Death or the NBC Thursday lineup. Just think . . . what you didn't watch from 8-10pm on Thursdays will be on again from 10-12am on TVLand-LOL

Pavan
01-16-2008, 01:03 PM
TV Land is exploring the truth behind more "Myths & Legends."

TV Land has ordered a second season of the series, which aims to unravel Hollywood-related mysteries, scandals, rumors and urban legends. The first of the seven new half-hour episodes will premiere on Wednesday, August 27, 2008.

Among the pressing issues to be covered are whether Arnold Schwarzenegger was originally cast as TV's Incredible Hulk and if Jennifer Lopez's derriere is really insured for $1 billion.

Other investigations include whether Mars Inc., maker of M&M's, turned down product placement in "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial," allowing Reese's Pieces to step in and benefit immensely.

"Myths & Legends" debuted in January 2007, averaging 819,000 viewers over its six-week run, which marked a 54% improvement over the same period a year earlier, according to Nielsen Media Research. TV Land also aired a special installment in August centered entirely on Elvis Presley.

JulieSomoski
01-16-2008, 02:50 PM
TV Land is exploring the truth behind more "Myths & Legends."

TV Land has ordered a second season of the series, which aims to unravel Hollywood-related mysteries, scandals, rumors and urban legends. The first of the seven new half-hour episodes will premiere on Wednesday, August 27, 2008.

Among the pressing issues to be covered are whether Arnold Schwarzenegger was originally cast as TV's Incredible Hulk and if Jennifer Lopez's derriere is really insured for $1 billion.

Other investigations include whether Mars Inc., maker of M&M's, turned down product placement in "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial," allowing Reese's Pieces to step in and benefit immensely.

"Myths & Legends" debuted in January 2007, averaging 819,000 viewers over its six-week run, which marked a 54% improvement over the same period a year earlier, according to Nielsen Media Research. TV Land also aired a special installment in August centered entirely on Elvis Presley.

That's some good news. It was actually one of theire reality series I enjoyed. And, it actually had something to do with television-LOL.

megamanj2004
01-16-2008, 03:28 PM
TV Land is going further and further into the crapholes.

And did I just read somewhere in that first message that one of the people in charge of MTV is also partly in charge of TV Land, too?

If so, then that just sums up just how bad TV Land really is now.

And it's even worse that they're picking a so-called original show that did so bad on the WB (now CW) that should belong on MTV.

Goes to show that idiots like the folks at Viacom does not deserve to own a TV, let alone run a TV.

And it's not all Larry Jones's fault. I bet $1M that the Viacom buttwipes is slapping him around to make him put crap like that on to make their egos happy.