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lilhave
12-12-2006, 01:25 PM
Top 10 List on the Ten Biggest Blunders by American Presidents
1 - James Buchanan did not do enough to oppose efforts by Southern states to secede from the Union before the Civil War.
2 - Andrew Johnson's decision just after the Civil War to side with Southern whites and oppose improvements in justice for Southern blacks beyond abolishing slavery.
3 - Lyndon Johnson for allowing the Vietnam War to intensify.
4 - Woodrow Wilson's refusal to compromise on the Treaty of Versailles after World War I.
5 - Richard Nixon's involvement in the Watergate cover-up.
6 - James Madison's failure to keep the United States out of the War of 1812 with Britain.
7 - Thomas Jefferson's Embargo Act of 1807, a self-imposed prohibition on trade with Europe during the Napoleonic Wars.
8 - John F. Kennedy allowing the Bay of Pigs Invasion that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
9 - Ronald Reagan and the Iran-Contra Affair, the effort to sell arms to Iran and use the money to finance an armed anti-communist group in Nicaragua.
10 - Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky scandal distracted America in the era of mass media, but it affected Clinton's presidency more than it did American history and the public.
According to University of Louisville's McConnell Center
Kay Scarpetta
12-12-2006, 01:48 PM
7 - Thomas Jefferson's Embargo Act of 1807, a self-imposed prohibition on trade with Europe during the Napoleonic Wars.
I had to write a paper on that... THAT was a horrible, horrible act on Jefferson's part. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Bobby F.
12-12-2006, 02:43 PM
8 - John F. Kennedy allowing the Bay of Pigs Invasion that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The allowing part wasn't the problem. It was the follow through. He basically bailed on that operation as it was going on. No air support for the ground invasion. Pissed off alot of CIA boys which in turn might possibly led to his assisnation.
Kay Scarpetta
12-12-2006, 03:07 PM
The allowing part wasn't the problem. It was the follow through. He basically bailed on that operation as it was going on. No air support for the ground invasion. Pissed off alot of CIA boys which in turn might possibly led to his assisnation.
I brought up the BOP subject the other night at dinner, we were having a debate on it in history and my father and I love to debate about history... my father told me to never bring up the Kennedy name in the house again :lol:
Bobby F.
12-12-2006, 03:08 PM
I brought up the BOP subject the other night at dinner, we were having a debate on it in history and my father and I love to debate about history... my father told me to never bring up the Kennedy name in the house again :lol:
I'm guessing it's because of the current Kennedy that is in power up there.:lol: I feel sorry for guys up in Mass.
Kay Scarpetta
12-12-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm guessing it's because of the current Kennedy that is in power up there.:lol: I feel sorry for guys up in Mass.
Not to mention, my mother and her side of the family know ol' Mr. Chappaquiddick himself... I've been introduced to him at numerous political fundraisers. He needs to work on his people skills, to say the very least.
Bobby F.
12-12-2006, 05:43 PM
Not to mention, my mother and her side of the family know ol' Mr. Chappaquiddick himself... I've been introduced to him at numerous political fundraisers. He needs to work on his people skills, to say the very least.
Hand him a mix drink and his people skills will multiply by a million!!:lol: Just don't get in a car with him!!:D
Fleet
12-12-2006, 09:40 PM
I wonder why the Iran-Contra affair is listed... why was funding anti-Communist groups in Nicaragua who were trying to prevent Communism from taking over their country a "blunder?"
Central Perk
12-15-2006, 11:26 PM
I wonder why the Iran-Contra affair is listed... why was funding anti-Communist groups in Nicaragua who were trying to prevent Communism from taking over their country a "blunder?"
Um... possibly because where the source of the money came from?
Fleet
12-16-2006, 12:43 AM
Um... possibly because where the source of the money came from?
It wasn't illegal at the time. Why was it a "blunder?" Helping another country to fight communism?
James"Thunder"Early
12-16-2006, 01:34 AM
It wasn't illegal at the time. Why was it a "blunder?" Helping another country to fight communism?Selling weapons to the radical government of Iran was an insane thing to do, especially after the hostage crisis, not to mention it also involved paying drug traffickers who put cocaine on the streets of our country.
Fleet
12-16-2006, 11:10 PM
Selling weapons to the radical government of Iran was an insane thing to do, especially after the hostage crisis, not to mention it also involved paying drug traffickers who put cocaine on the streets of our country.
Actually, that was Oliver North doing that behind Reagan's back.
Also, the Democrat Congress would only support the Sandanistas and Reagan wanted the Contras to win, so they created a situation that we had to deal with Iran at the same time in order to get weapons to them. It's an example of the enemy of my ememy is my friend. But if the Dems in Congress allowed the president to support the Contras, Iran-Contra most likely would never have happened.
And if people were smart enough not to buy/use cocaine, it wouldn't matter if it's in the country. If no one buys it, it would make no difference. Unfortunately, there are many weak-of-mind who do use it.
James"Thunder"Early
12-19-2006, 11:46 AM
Actually, that was Oliver North doing that behind Reagan's back.
Also, the Democrat Congress would only support the Sandanistas and Reagan wanted the Contras to win, so they created a situation that we had to deal with Iran at the same time in order to get weapons to them. It's an example of the enemy of my ememy is my friend. But if the Dems in Congress allowed the president to support the Contras, Iran-Contra most likely would never have happened.I seriously doubt he was doing all of it behind the President back. Why should Congress authorize funds for a terrorist group? That's essentially what the Contras were, attacking a lot of non-political targets. And besides that, it really wasn't this county's responsibility to get involved in a foreign political dispute.
And if people were smart enough not to buy/use cocaine, it wouldn't matter if it's in the country. If no one buys it, it would make no difference. Unfortunately, there are many weak-of-mind who do use it.It certainly does make a whole lot difference when taxpayer dollars were used to enable the sale of illegal drugs.
Fleet
12-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Leland, you really should read up on Iran-Contra (and I don't mean just from Goggle/Wikipedia which is most likely where you were getting your info from).
Here, I'll help you out:
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