Why Doesn't Maude Do Well In Syndication?

[Buffyboy323]

I never got why. Anyone know? I never saw Maude in syndication. I just saw about 20 eps or so that my Aunt had on tape, from years ago. The show is very good, too.

[seventies_sitcoms]

I never got why. Anyone know? I never saw Maude in syndication. I just saw about 20 eps or so that my Aunt had on tape, from years ago. The show is very good, too.


Because people would rather watch the same airhead comedies that are shown over and over by stations like TV Land who never hardly changes their schedule.

Luckily I was able see Maude a lot in syndication during the 80's. I never realized that many stations never picked it up. I was really surprised to find out that many people aren't familar with this show. I know a lot of Golden Girls fans don't even like it.

[TVFactFan]

I never got why. Anyone know? I never saw Maude in syndication. I just saw about 20 eps or so that my Aunt had on tape, from years ago. The show is very good, too.


In your opinion, what makes this a very good show? Just Curious. I finally seen several eps of the show in 2004 and 2005 and I gave the show overall a C. It's watchable but not many Laugh out Loud Moments.

[seventies_sitcoms]

In your opinion, what makes this a very good show? Just Curious. I finally seen several eps of the show in 2004 and 2005 and I gave the show overall a C. It's watchable but not many Laugh out Loud Moments.

I think it's more of the rarity than quality. I mean a lot of the shows in reruns I don't think are really better or worse than Maude. I don't understand how the show was so huge, but it is never given a proper chance in reruns to obtain a new fanbase. It is yanked because channels are scared of the "sponsors" for showing "low-rated" shows.

As for people saying Maude was a political show I don't get it. The episodes I taped from On Demand weren't all political so I don't know what people are yapping about. I do vaguely remember her running for Congress, but other than that what was so constantly political about the show that killed it in syndication?

I just think a lot of people didn't like a dominating and in your face female head character of a show.

I would watch this show anytime over a lot of others, but I guess I'm saying that because I'm a Bea Arthur fan. I enjoy her sarcastic style of humor, and for me that makes the show enjoyable and good over a lot of other programs. I can see why a lot of people don't like it. Plus you get 1980s scream queen Adrienne Barbeau in the series too. :p

[TVFactFan]

I think it's more of the rarity than quality. I mean a lot of the shows in reruns I don't think are really better or worse than Maude. I don't understand how the show was so huge, but it is never given a proper chance in reruns to obtain a new fanbase. It is yanked because channels are scared of the "sponsors" for showing "low-rated" shows.

As for people saying Maude was a political show I don't get it. The episodes I taped from On Demand weren't all political so I don't know what people are yapping about. I do vaguely remember her running for Congress, but other than that what was so constantly political about the show that killed it in syndication?

I just think a lot of people didn't like a dominating and in your face female head character of a show.

I would watch this show anytime over a lot of others, but I guess I'm saying that because I'm a Bea Arthur fan. I enjoy her sarcastic style of humor, and for me that makes the show enjoyable and good over a lot of other programs. I can see why a lot of people don't like it. Plus you get 1980s scream queen Adrienne Barbeau in the series too. :p



Another reason could be there wasn't a lot of FUN Episode Story Lines. I didn't notice a lot from the 50 eps I watched

[seventies_sitcoms]

Another reason could be there wasn't a lot of FUN Episode Story Lines. I didn't notice a lot from the 50 eps I watched

I think Maude is a fun show, although I didn't care much for the charity show episode or the one at the Vermont train station when Arthur and Viv get married.

I really wish I had the one when they try to get Viv's brooch off the dead lady at the funeral home.

[TVFactFan]

I think Maude is a fun show, although I didn't care much for the charity show episode or the one at the Vermont train station when Arthur and Viv get married.

I really wish I had the one when they try to get Viv's brooch off the dead lady at the funeral home.


Another thing is this show is not really popular with YOUNG PEOPLE

[seventies_sitcoms]

Another thing is this show is not really popular with YOUNG PEOPLE


What do the young know? Their opinions don't count. ;)

[Moonlight Lady]

I don't know. Maybe, alot of people don't like Bea Arthur, maybe they think it's too political. Personally, I love the show even though my political views are the opposite of Bea Arthur's and her Maude Findlay character.

I agree with you Solomon. There aren't alot of "LOL" episodes of Maude. You know, I wonder how successful the show would have been as a Comedy-Drama.

[TVFactFan]

I don't know. Maybe, alot of people don't like Bea Arthur, maybe they think it's too political. Personally, I love the show even though my political views are the opposite of Bea Arthur's and her Maude Findlay character.

I agree with you Solomon. There aren't alot of "LOL" episodes of Maude. You know, I wonder how successful the show would have been as a Comedy-Drama.


There were some things that had me laughing like-"God Will get you for that" But I will never forget the episode when Maude and walter stayed in there bedroom for the entire episode and I just couldn;t believe they would produce a episode like that

[seventies_sitcoms]

There were some things that had me laughing like-"God Will get you for that" But I will never forget the episode when Maude and walter stayed in there bedroom for the entire episode and I just couldn;t believe they would produce a episode like that

Yes, they were getting ready to the party and Walter didn't want to go. I forgot about that one. I still like the TAMU episodes.

[TVFactFan]

Yes, they were getting ready to the party and Walter didn't want to go. I forgot about that one. I still like the TAMU episodes.


I forgot TAMU played a Nerdy Role on the Jeffersons in 1979-lol She was a Housekeeper

[Moonlight Lady]

There were some things that had me laughing like-"God Will get you for that" But I will never forget the episode when Maude and walter stayed in there bedroom for the entire episode and I just couldn;t believe they would produce a episode like that

Yeah, that was one of my least favorites. Also the episode where they are in the hotel room the entire time. I believe she went with him to some convention and he won an award.

[TVFactFan]

Yeah, that was one of my least favorites. Also the episode where they are in the hotel room the entire time. I believe she went with him to some convention and he won an award.


The episode with Larry from Three's company was Ok

[James"Thunder"Early]

Because it's not like other sitcoms, the humor doesn't appeal to everyone and can be sort of dated. From what I saw of the show, I really liked it.

[seventies_sitcoms]

I forgot TAMU played a Nerdy Role on the Jeffersons in 1979-lol She was a Housekeeper

Was she George and Louise's housekeeper? Wasn't Florence available for an episode?

[TVFactFan]

Was she George and Louise's housekeeper? Wasn't Florence available for an episode?


Tamu was playing the Jeffersons new maid because Florence had met a man and they were planning to get married and Florence was going to move out

[gilligan fanatic]

Well for one thing it is very out dated, it was too much into the current events. All in the Family had it as a discusion, but it wasn't the whole focus of the show. Maude to me is lets basically hate everyone and the country, where is the fun in that? I just can't get into it, I have seen a few, and it just is to negative

[Moonlight Lady]

The episode with Larry from Three's company was Ok

I saw him on an episode of Maude and didn't recognize him at first because he had a moustache that looked horrible.

[seventies_sitcoms]

Well for one thing it is very out dated, it was too much into the current events. All in the Family had it as a discusion, but it wasn't the whole focus of the show. Maude to me is lets basically hate everyone and the country, where is the fun in that? I just can't get into it, I have seen a few, and it just is to negative


Let's hate the country and be negative. Hmmmm. Sounds like the show could be a hit again in this day and age with the current situation. The Iraq War, gasoline, social security.....

[gilligan fanatic]

Let's hate the country and be negative. Hmmmm. Sounds like the show could be a hit again in this day and age with the current situation. The Iraq War, gasoline, social security.....

I don't know about that, Air America is similar and it is failing in the ratings

[Lamont]

Maude is not syndicated any more
because its forgotten

it was one of the shows in the 70s that was SO TOPICAL it related to how everyone felt..... but it was TOO Topical and TOO modern and has not aged well

so much of the feminist attitude is outdated and its not shocking any more

the younger crowd has NO IDEA what the show is

too bad,it was a GREAT sitcom

[TVFactFan]

Maude is not syndicated any more
because its forgotten

it was one of the shows in the 70s that was SO TOPICAL it related to how everyone felt..... but it was TOO Topical and TOO modern and has not aged well

so much of the feminist attitude is outdated and its not shocking any more

the younger crowd has NO IDEA what the show is

too bad,it was a GREAT sitcom



It's just not a show to watch over and over again. It's a One Time type of Comedy Show

[comedyfreak]

I enjoyed the show when it was on prime time, to me Maude was funny when whe was going off about something. The episode in which she had an abortion was controversial at the time. Walter hitting Maude during an argument was also controversial. My parents were shocked when Maude called Walter an S.O.B and it wasn't bleeped out. I don't really remember the show being syndicated, until TVLand aired a marathon which is how I taped most of the marathon. The show had a great theme song too.

[TVJunkie101]

I'm young and I love the show. I'm sure it's a rarity but I find it fairly funny. I'd love to see it in syndication again. I keep hearing DVD rumors but I get the feeling they won't sell all that well.

[TVFactFan]

I'm young and I love the show. I'm sure it's a rarity but I find it fairly funny. I'd love to see it in syndication again. I keep hearing DVD rumors but I get the feeling they won't sell all that well.


The characters on the show I wasn't too crazy about was Vivian and Mrs. Drunkentuck-lol

[Stuck In The '70's]

The characters on the show I wasn't too crazy about was Vivian and Mrs. Drunkentuck-lol
:lol:

[seventies_sitcoms]

WPGH Channel 53 Pittsburgh used to show it a lot in the 1980s. They had a great line-up on weeknights starting at 6.

One Day at a Time
Jeffersons
Maude
Mary Hartman

They used to show a lot of shows like like Nanny and the Professor, Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Here Comes the Brides, Then Came Bronson, Love American Style. Heck, I even liked watching the Grizzly Adams reruns, but I don't think I could stomach it today.

[Buffyboy323]

As far as Maude being a show that doesn't age well, because it took place in the 70s and isn't "timeless", what about All InThe Family? It's pretty similar. They talk about issues from that time, where as shows like "The Honeymooners' never said anyhting about presidents or anything from that time period.

I remember Maude was on TVLAND a few years back. How long was it there for?

[Buffyboy323]

The characters on the show I wasn't too crazy about was Vivian and Mrs. Drunkentuck-lol

HAHAHAH! :lol:

[TVFactFan]

As far as Maude being a show that doesn't age well, because it took place in the 70s and isn't "timeless", what about All InThe Family? It's pretty similar. They talk about issues from that time, where as shows like "The Honeymooners' never said anyhting about presidents or anything from that time period.

I remember Maude was on TVLAND a few years back. How long was it there for?


I think between 1998 and 2000

[comedyfreak]

[QUOTE=Buffyboy323]As far as Maude being a show that doesn't age well, because it took place in the 70s and isn't "timeless", what about All InThe Family? It's pretty similar. They talk about issues from that time, where as shows like "The Honeymooners' never said anyhting about presidents or anything from that time period.
[QUOTE]
Good Times mentioned Nixon and Ford and look how well that show has held the test of time. It was a 70's show. A even older show mentioned Eisenhaur I think, but I forget what show that was.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I nevery knew Maude did not do that well in Syndication.

[TVFactFan]

[QUOTE=Buffyboy323]As far as Maude being a show that doesn't age well, because it took place in the 70s and isn't "timeless", what about All InThe Family? It's pretty similar. They talk about issues from that time, where as shows like "The Honeymooners' never said anyhting about presidents or anything from that time period.
[QUOTE]
Good Times mentioned Nixon and Ford and look how well that show has held the test of time. It was a 70's show. A even older show mentioned Eisenhaur I think, but I forget what show that was.


Maybe Maude would have better success on LIfetime. I don't think TV Land is the place for this show

[comedyfreak]

[QUOTE=comedyfreak][QUOTE=Buffyboy323]As far as Maude being a show that doesn't age well, because it took place in the 70s and isn't "timeless", what about All InThe Family? It's pretty similar. They talk about issues from that time, where as shows like "The Honeymooners' never said anyhting about presidents or anything from that time period.



Maybe Maude would have better success on LIfetime. I don't think TV Land is the place for this show
I think you're right on this one, I think it would do well on Lifetime or WE.

[Buffyboy323]

I think it should be on Late nights on local channels. Here in NY, we have Good Times and The Jeffersons back to back every night. Maude would fit well in there. And they wouldn't even care about ratings at 2am, LOL.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I think Maude would fit well on Local Station's The Last time I watched Maude on a Local Station it was on WVUE Saturday Night's at 10:35 pm

[friendsfan77]

I think it should be on Late nights on local channels. Here in NY, we have Good Times and The Jeffersons back to back every night. Maude would fit well in there. And they wouldn't even care about ratings at 2am, LOL.

As of three weeks ago, WUPA/ch. 69 in the Atlanta area have begun airing Good Times, The Jeffersons, and Sanford and Son again. IMO, Maude would complete the block. They've also aired All in the Family in the past. The block airs from 10-11:30 am.

[TVFactFan]

Maude should be on Lifetime on Weekday Mornings

[seventies_sitcoms]

Maude should be on Lifetime on Weekday Mornings

I doubt it would even work on Lifetime. I think they tried to show sitcoms in the mornings like Laverne and Shirley and they bombed.

[Buffyboy323]

I doubt it would even work on Lifetime. I think they tried to show sitcoms in the mornings like Laverne and Shirley and they bombed.

I know! Poor Laverne and Shirley. That's why they moved it to that LIfetime: Real Women channel in the afternoons. Damn Lifetime!

[TVFactFan]

I know! Poor Laverne and Shirley. That's why they moved it to that LIfetime: Real Women channel in the afternoons. Damn Lifetime!



But Maude is not silly like L&S so that's why L&S didn't do well on Lifetime

[Scoobiedoo30]

I would love to see Maude back on some cable Network.

[ethelmaepotter]

I saw an interview with Carroll O'Connor, who played Archie Bunker, from circa 1999. The interviewer asked the rather cantankerous O'Connor how he felt about some of the All in the Family spin-offs, one of which was Maude. O'Connor's opinion was that Maude was a "one-note" character who didn't have that much appeal. His reason for why the show wasn't syndicated any longer was that "it wasn't very funny".

[storrs19]

Maude was definately a Comedy-Drama and it made you think sometimes...which is more than most of the garbage shows from about 1990 on ;)
Maybe someday we will finally get it on dvd.

[TVFactFan]

Maude was definately a Comedy-Drama and it made you think sometimes...which is more than most of the garbage shows from about 1990 on ;)
Maybe someday we will finally get it on dvd.



The episode Topics is what made the show BORING

[TALLguyinKY]

And then there's the episode where she delivers a serious, teary-eyed 20-minute monologe from a psychiatrist's couch---ahh, good times! lol

[TVFactFan]

And then there's the episode where she delivers a serious, teary-eyed 20-minute monologe from a psychiatrist's couch---ahh, good times! lol



Glad I missed that one-lol

[seventies_sitcoms]

And then there's the episode where she delivers a serious, teary-eyed 20-minute monologe from a psychiatrist's couch---ahh, good times! lol


That sounds like Maude's version of Ann Romano talking to herself for 20 minutes in the bedroom because she turned 36:lol: :crazy:

All of those Lear shows must've had one scriptwriter. They just changed the names, places and the topic a little bit.

[ajm1972]

Someone questioned why people think Maude was political or wasn't political, well for a woman to have or even consider an abortion on tv during the 70's was
cutting edge, it didn't happen on other shows. Also Maude's daughter was divorced right another topic not common at the time, remember this show aired before One Day at a Time, Alice and others came on.

Aj

[TVFactFan]

Someone questioned why people think Maude was political or wasn't political, well for a woman to have or even consider an abortion on tv during the 70's was
cutting edge, it didn't happen on other shows. Also Maude's daughter was divorced right another topic not common at the time, remember this show aired before One Day at a Time, Alice and others came on.

Aj



It's not a REWATCHABLE show due to multiple serious topics

[ajm1972]

So says your opinion......

Aj

[TALLguyinKY]

Glad I missed that one-lol

Yeah, my sister and I were kinda down and in a funk after that one. lol

[SitcomGyrl1955]

It's just not a show to watch over and over again. It's a One Time type of Comedy Show
I would watch it over and over again. I liked Maude.

[JAlanRuss72]

Season 1, to me, is the MOST rewatchable, followed by season 2. But I enjoyed most of the other seasons as well.

[TVFactFan]

I would watch it over and over again. I liked Maude.



I can watch the eps with Florida in them but that's It

[JAlanRuss72]

I can watch the eps with Florida in them but that's It

Those are the best episodes of the series.

[Scoobiedoo30]

You are right the best episodes were withg Flo

[Buffyboy323]

It's not a REWATCHABLE show due to multiple serious topics

Well if that's the case, than niether is Good Times. There was always some sort of drama going on with the Evans family.

[TVFactFan]

Well if that's the case, than niether is Good Times. There was always some sort of drama going on with the Evans family.


Maude was more a Dramedy than Good Times

[Buffyboy323]

Maude was more a Dramedy than Good Times
Not really. They both had the same mix of comedy/drama in them. The Jeffersons was the only All In The Family spinoff that was more on the comedy side, than the drama......Maude was the most political. Good Times was the most dramatic. The Jeffersons was the most comedic.

[BigDealLucille]

In my opinion, Maude had many, many, many LOL moments and is VERY rewatchable! Simply because of Bea Arthur's brilliant delivery and timing of her sarcastic one liners. If anyone finds that boring or not rewatchable, they don't have much of a sense of humor. To me, every episode of Maude has hilarious moments and that's what made that show so popular during its heyday. That's why it ran for six seasons. To say it's just a dated, political satire on 1970's issues is missing the core humor of it. Yes, some of the episodes were of a political nature but so were a lot of TV shows of that time. Don't just single out Maude for it. Be fair.

I currently have nearly every Maude episode and a friend of mine and I watch them every night after our favorite network shows are over. And we always LOL at our favorite funny moments. Like Maude getting angry at Walter while they were both nominated for businessperson of the year because Walter was gloating over the fact that it was his third time and if he won, he would get a street named after him and Maude said, yeah and when that happened, she would drive a team of well fed horses up it. That is priceless. It still makes me LOL! So I guess what a lot of people miss when watching Maude is that it's style of humor is not only very sarcastic but it's also subtle and intelligent and not always broad enough to reach mass appeal and that's one of the things I like about it. In short, it has adult humor targeted at adults.

[TVFactFan]

In my opinion, Maude had many, many, many LOL moments and is VERY rewatchable! Simply because of Bea Arthur's brilliant delivery and timing of her sarcastic one liners. If anyone finds that boring or not rewatchable, they don't have much of a sense of humor. To me, every episode of Maude has hilarious moments and that's what made that show so popular during its heyday. That's why it ran for six seasons. To say it's just a dated, political satire on 1970's issues is missing the core humor of it. Yes, some of the episodes were of a political nature but so were a lot of TV shows of that time. Don't just single out Maude for it. Be fair.

I currently have nearly every Maude episode and a friend of mine and I watch them every night after our favorite network shows are over. And we always LOL at our favorite funny moments. Like Maude getting angry at Walter while they were both nominated for businessperson of the year because Walter was gloating over the fact that it was his third time and if he won, he would get a street named after him and Maude said, yeah and when that happened, she would drive a team of well fed horses up it. That is priceless. It still makes me LOL! So I guess what a lot of people miss when watching Maude is that it's style of humor is not only very sarcastic but it's also subtle and intelligent and not always broad enough to reach mass appeal and that's one of the things I like about it. In short, it has adult humor targeted at adults.


How do you feel about the episode with Maude and Walter in the bedroom for 30 min?

[BigDealLucille]

Actually, there were two episodes which depicted Maude and Walter in the bedroom. The one where they were getting ready for a party and the one where Maude had trouble sleeping because she was anxious about her upcoming surgery. I thought they were both quite funny and inventive.

[TVFactFan]

Actually, there were two episodes which depicted Maude and Walter in the bedroom. The one where they were getting ready for a party and the one where Maude had trouble sleeping because she was anxious about her upcoming surgery. I thought they were both quite funny and inventive.


What season is the one about surgery from?

[BigDealLucille]

The one about the surgery was from season 3 and it's called "A Night To Remember." The description is as follows: Maude is having a restless night. She can't sleep because she has something very important on her mind and wants to tell Walter about it but he's too busy worrying about the blizzard outside and his end of the summer sale scheduled for the next day. So she decides to just drop the bomb -- her doctor has told her that she should have a hysterectomy.

[tanner]

I don't know about that, Air America is similar and it is failing in the ratings

That is still true for the most part but the reason Air America is having trouble is mainly due to the quality of a lot of the stations that air it not so much content. Many of them are low power.

If you have two radio stations, one airing coversative talk and the other airing liberal talk and the conservative station is 50,000 watts and can be heard everywhere while the liberal one is only 100 watts and the only way one can pick them up is by being in the parking lot across from the radio station, well no one they are having rating woes.

[Dean Winchester]

I honestly think Maude just hasn't been given a fair shake in syndication. Everyone (and I noticed it isn't once mentioned here) forgets what a huge enduring syndicated classic The Golden Girls is, that shows continues to draw in new fans even tho it's been off the air for fifteen years. Considering Maude stars TWO of the four Golden Girls, wouldn't you think that they would try to bring the show back into syndication and see how it does? There are a lot of younger (under 30 or so) people who love The Golden Girls and have no idea Bea and Rue were on another show together. I think if they tried and courted the Golden Girls market with "ten years before they were Golden....." type of things. Considering how huge GG has been in syndication over the past ten years, it's unfair to dispose Maude when it really hasn't been given a fair shake.

And I disagree with those who think the show is too "negative" because it had a liberal slant and was :::gasp::: female-centric. Men, regardless of political slants, generally hate a woman with an opinion, and this is what Maude was about, a woman who spoke her mind and had convictions.

[TVFactFan]

I honestly think Maude just hasn't been given a fair shake in syndication. Everyone (and I noticed it isn't once mentioned here) forgets what a huge enduring syndicated classic The Golden Girls is, that shows continues to draw in new fans even tho it's been off the air for fifteen years. Considering Maude stars TWO of the four Golden Girls, wouldn't you think that they would try to bring the show back into syndication and see how it does? There are a lot of younger (under 30 or so) people who love The Golden Girls and have no idea Bea and Rue were on another show together. I think if they tried and courted the Golden Girls market with "ten years before they were Golden....." type of things. Considering how huge GG has been in syndication over the past ten years, it's unfair to dispose Maude when it really hasn't been given a fair shake.

And I disagree with those who think the show is too "negative" because it had a liberal slant and was :::gasp::: female-centric. Men, regardless of political slants, generally hate a woman with an opinion, and this is what Maude was about, a woman who spoke her mind and had convictions.


I know as a teenager I couldn't get into the show but now I can watch the show with no problem

[Dean Winchester]

I know as a teenager I couldn't get into the show but now I can watch the show with no problem
yea, I doubt the show would score well with teens (but outside of people on this forum, does classic TV generally score well? I know 22 year olds who won't watch TV that predates Friends because it's "too old") but I do think Lifetime or TV Land or whoever could acquire the rights to the show should try to target the 20-35 year old market who watches Golden Girls on Lifetime and/or has the DVD's. So many of these people have no idea Bea and Rue did another show a decade prior and would have more interest if they knew so. I think Lifetime could acquire Maude and pair it up with The Golden Girls and get good ratings since I am sure a lot of GG fans would at least give Maude a shot out of curiosity to see Bea and Rue together on another program.

[TVFactFan]

yea, I doubt the show would score well with teens (but outside of people on this forum, does classic TV generally score well? I know 22 year olds who won't watch TV that predates Friends because it's "too old") but I do think Lifetime or TV Land or whoever could acquire the rights to the show should try to target the 20-35 year old market who watches Golden Girls on Lifetime and/or has the DVD's. So many of these people have no idea Bea and Rue did another show a decade prior and would have more interest if they knew so. I think Lifetime could acquire Maude and pair it up with The Golden Girls and get good ratings since I am sure a lot of GG fans would at least give Maude a shot out of curiosity to see Bea and Rue together on another program.



It will defintely do better on Lifetime since that network is geared toward women. Maude won't be that much of a hit on cable networks like tvland or n@n.

[OH Nuts!]

I never got why. Anyone know? I never saw Maude in syndication. I just saw about 20 eps or so that my Aunt had on tape, from years ago. The show is very good, too.

Maude was a wonderful character on AITF, and the ep where she comes to take care of the Bunker clan is my fav ep of AITF. But her character was too much of a parody in the spin off. It tried too hard and tried to do too much. That'w why it fell a little flat. But the show does get an A for effort, it's heart was in the right place, but the writing, direction and production were not. Also notice how great Bea Arthur is in The Golden Girls--all the "golden" gals BTW--which shows you how brilliantly fine actresses can sparkle when everything else is in place.

[Dean Winchester]

Maude was a wonderful character on AITF, and the ep where she comes to take care of the Bunker clan is my fav ep of AITF. But her character was too much of a parody in the spin off. It tried too hard and tried to do too much. That'w why it fell a little flat. But the show does get an A for effort, it's heart was in the right place, but the writing, direction and production were not. Also notice how great Bea Arthur is in The Golden Girls--all the "golden" gals BTW--which shows you how brilliantly fine actresses can sparkle when everything else is in place.
well, I don't think the show truly has been given a fair shake in a post-Golden Girls syndicated climate. You have no idea how many GG fans I know who bought Maude blind on DVD because they have never been exposed to reruns of the show, but wanted to see it before of Bea and Rue. The DVD has made a new generation of fans who weren't old enough (or even alive) to see the show when it ended in 1978 but discovered Bea through Golden Girls who went back to check Maude out and wound up loving that show too.

[Mikado]

I loved Maude then, and I love it now.......I think Dean nailed it, the show was about a woman with opinions, and that turned a lot of men off (And many women also, I'm sure.....women tend to be more critical of other women than men, sometimes.)

[catlover79]

It will defintely do better on Lifetime since that network is geared toward women. Maude won't be that much of a hit on cable networks like tvland or n@n.
:yeahthat I agree with Solomon there - maybe air it in a block with The Golden Girls!

[Mikado]

Funny thing, Im a guy and i'd take Maude over the Jeffersons anyday

[OH Nuts!]

In your opinion, what makes this a very good show? Just Curious. I finally seen several eps of the show in 2004 and 2005 and I gave the show overall a C. It's watchable but not many Laugh out Loud Moments.


Gosh I Don't know King IMO a C is a tiny bit harsh. Sometimes when you evaluate a piece of work you have to keep in mind how much effort is made trying to make the premise work, the potential of the actors (all good) and then weigh this against what actually came across. IMO, Maude was forced. It's heart was in the right place--the writing, direction & production were not. Just look at Bea Arthur in other venues and you can see how great she can be. She was amazing on AITF & The Golden Girls. What the show Maude tried to do was laudable, even if it wasn't successful at it...I'd give it C+/B-, since it did aim for something lofty...as opposed to something canned like Good Times (D+)

[TVFactFan]

Gosh I Don't know King IMO a C is a tiny bit harsh. Sometimes when you evaluate a piece of work you have to keep in mind how much effort is made trying to make the premise work, the potential of the actors (all good) and then weigh this against what actually came across. IMO, Maude was forced. It's heart was in the right place--the writing, direction & production were not. Just look at Bea Arthur in other venues and you can see how great she can be. She was amazing on AITF & The Golden Girls. What the show Maude tried to do was laudable, even if it wasn't successful at it...I'd give it C+/B-, since it did aim for something lofty...as opposed to something canned like Good Times (D+)


The characters that made the show watchable to me was Walter, Arthur, and Florida. It was because of those characters why I laughed not really Maude

[OH Nuts!]

The characters that made the show watchable to me was Walter, Arthur, and Florida. It was because of those characters why I laughed not really Maude

"God will get you for that!":lol:

Maude was OK on her show but nowheres near as funny as she was on AITF. A key problem with Maude on her show was she was too one-dimensional. On AITF, for example, you saw other sides to Archie than the irrascible bigot--like when he tenderly visited Gloria after the miscarriage--the look of pained concern when he thinks Edith may have cancer. On Maude it would have been refreshing to see Maude do say or think something out of character--something reactionary for example. And yes, the other characters could be funny too-esp. Arthur--when he and Maudie went at it.

[TVFactFan]

"God will get you for that!":lol:

Maude was OK on her show but nowheres near as funny as she was on AITF. A key problem with Maude on her show was she was too one-dimensional. On AITF, for example, you saw other sides to Archie than the irrascible bigot--like when he tenderly visited Gloria after the miscarriage--the look of pained concern when he thinks Edith may have cancer. On Maude it would have been refreshing to see Maude do say or think something out of character--something reactionary for example. And yes, the other characters could be funny too-esp. Arthur--when he and Maudie went at it.


Some of the Episode Ideas were just AWFUL. Like why have Maude and Arthur in ONE ROOM the entire episode?-lol It was a ep in 74/75

[OH Nuts!]

Some of the Episode Ideas were just AWFUL. Like why have Maude and Arthur in ONE ROOM the entire episode?-lol It was a ep in 74/75


I don't know if I would go so far as to say AWFUL, but many were flat. Which eps seldom or never were on The Jeffersons or All In The Family.

[Lhomme couture]

The writing on Maude is superb. For example, the fact that Vivian would think her grandmother was psychic simply because she always had the exact change when getting on the bus is very humorous and smart. It takes a good comedic writer to think outside of the box and put a spin on an seemingly ordinary thing and make it funny.

[OH Nuts!]

Maybe we just have a difference of opinion. Because something on the show was off. And it wasn't the actors. And Maude the character had great potential--she was PRICELESS on All In The Family. But I have to be honest, I'll take the Golden Girls over Maude any day. And don't get me wrong. I certainy don't HATE Maude (the show or character-actually I love the character and boy what a character). I just thought the show was capable of more, but was still satisfying TV entertainament--but did not sparkle with brilliance like AITF or GG.

[Jude The Obscure]

FTR, Maude was never seen in syndication in my area. So when TV Land did rerun it, it was my first time seeing it since the original primetime run.

Also I heard that when Maude was first offered in syndication, it was offered as a weekly offering, not a strip--can anyone confirm that?

[TVFactFan]

FTR, Maude was never seen in syndication in my area. So when TV Land did rerun it, it was my first time seeing it since the original primetime run.

Also I heard that when Maude was first offered in syndication, it was offered as a weekly offering, not a strip--can anyone confirm that?


Wow, Maude was in Syndication in Philly but way back in 1989. I know one 70's show that wasnt never aired in Philly and if it was I was too young to remember, "Chico and the Man"

[OOliver]

I think one of the reasons not many people enjoyed "Maude" as much as other shows which made it to syndie was the simple fact that the cast of characters were so unlikeable.

There was really no 'nice' character on the show - everyone was rather sarcastic, defensive and negative to one another. It wasn't a group of people you could spend more than 30 minutes with each week, and certainly not a group of people you would want to bring in to your home each day (like 'The Golden Girls').

[TVFactFan]

I think one of the reasons not many people enjoyed "Maude" as much as other shows which made it to syndie was the simple fact that the cast of characters were so unlikeable.

There was really no 'nice' character on the show - everyone was rather sarcastic, defensive and negative to one another. It wasn't a group of people you could spend more than 30 minutes with each week, and certainly not a group of people you would want to bring in to your home each day (like 'The Golden Girls').


I think it was too much of a DRAMEDY and not a lot of fun episodes which is why it's not a hit in syndication. I mean how many times can you watch a serious ep on a sitcom?-lol