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skunk ape
08-16-2006, 01:56 PM
I'm hoping it is so the families of the victims will get some closure that they deserve.

Kane
08-16-2006, 02:09 PM
I haven't heard anything yet. The DNA tests are expected to be completed by the end of summer, and there's still another month left in the season. However, such tests can sometimes either be delayed or end up taking longer than expected. But as soon as the results are finalized, they will be announced.

skunk ape
08-16-2006, 02:32 PM
Thanks. Hey Kane, do you know where I can find the composite picture of Angela Hammond's attacker?

kadrmas15
08-16-2006, 02:55 PM
I dont think they have a website with those kind of composites on it. I dont think they even had a composite of the guy. Because she saw him but remember there was no one else around. They had a description of the pickup truck because Rob saw it. I think he caught a glimpse of the guy's face but not enough to really make a composite. If they did make a composite it was because of what Angela described to Rob. But I just remember Rob said that Angela said that he was a dirty looking guy with long hair, glasses and overalls. They showed a picture of the guy's truck because he had a unique mural in the back window of a fish jumping out of water. How no one could have not seen this very unique truck is beyond me. I dont think Rob was paying too much attention to what the guy looked like because his mind was probably racing with fear about Angela and getting her away from this guy. Still makes me so sad about how helpless Rob must have felt when his transmission went out.

skunk ape
08-16-2006, 03:07 PM
Sorry, I meant the composite of Jane Boroski's attacker. I got the two mixed up.

New Brandon
08-16-2006, 04:11 PM
It'd be great to find the guy, but are we sure that...

A) This is a serial killer? There could always be more than one guy. I guess we can assume it's only one for most of them, because most of the victims were nurses... Which brings me to B...

B) Jane Boroski wasn't a nurse, was she? If not, there is no real solid connection between her attacker and the rest. Unless, of course, I'm missing something.

Kane
08-16-2006, 05:57 PM
Sorry, I meant the composite of Jane Boroski's attacker. I got the two mixed up.

That's okay. Anyway, a composite sketch of Jane's attacker is on page 268 of The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers. The second edition of that book was issued early this year, but I bought it just two weeks ago. The author of the book is Michael Newton.

Thinman
08-24-2006, 01:59 PM
My condolences on your tragedy, shawneee. Do you have any thoughts on whether or not Nicholaou is the Connecticut River Valley Killer?

Kane
09-19-2006, 04:00 PM
There is a new article related to the case. It is about Jane Boroski, who is believed to be the only survivor of a New Hampshire serial killer known as the Valley Killer. She was pregnant at the time of her attack, but her infant was thankfully unharmed. Although the DNA tests have yet to be finalized, Boroski is convinced that the late Michael Nicholaou was the one who nearly killed her.

The article is dated September 16, and is at the following link:

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/09/16/Tampabay/One_who_lived_sees_ch.shtml

nohwheregirl
09-19-2006, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the article, Kane.

“An innocent man is not sitting in prison. The guy is not going to escape,” Terrido said. “If you’ve got a whole bunch of cases you have to evaluate — a dead man? We’ll get to it when we get to it.”


What a jerk. Nevermind the fact that a serial killer could STILL be on the loose, and you have to complete this DNA to rule out that possibility. Nevermind that law enforcement OWES answers to victims' families. I understand practicle considerations like money and time, but these detectives need to get on the ball.

LooksLikeCRicci
09-20-2006, 10:59 AM
Wow. Interesting. Thanks for the link. I'm not sure what to think. I think Jane is the authorities best shot at identifying the Connecticut River Valley Killer, and if she is 99% sure that MIchael Nicholaou is him... that's pretty compelling.

On the other hand, the attack occurred 18 years ago, and her memory of what the killer looked like could have faded. In addition, she is a woman who is constantly living in fear who WANTS to see this man either behind bars or dead so she can move on with her life.

I hope they hurry with the DNA results. Even if the guy is dead, the families of the victims have a right to know.

kadrmas15
09-20-2006, 05:23 PM
Well I was kind of stunned at how some of these investigators were such jerks about it. Heck I remember in the UM segment Stack saying that the New Hampshire State Police were not convinced they had a serial killer on their hands even after that many homicides. Well the guy Jane described as her attacker back in the UM segment was in Nicholau's age group and Nicholau lived I believe in Massachusetts at the time this attack occurred. I believe at the end of 1988 he moved away from the New England area. It could be Jane is wrong about him being the attacker but I must admit even if she is wrong Nicholaou was a good guy to look at because there are definitly some things that match up. Like how I believe it was Nicholau's first wife that was a nurse and that she worked in the same hospital as one of the women that would later turn up dead. However on the same sense Nicholau if it was him that was the killer didnt stalk victims he selected sites so he might have recognized that nurse if he killed her but it wasnt because he was stalking her, he picked a selected site that she happened to be at. The reason why the Jeep might not have shown up when they ran it was Jane said a 75 to 85 Jeep wagoner. Yet those wood paneled Jeeps I believe were made through 1987 it wasnt until the 1988 model that they stopped making the wood paneled ones so it could have been an 86 or 87 and they didnt look those up. Nicholau in 1988 would have been in his late 30's I believe so it is very possible that he was the killer. I somehow doubt he stopped killing too. He might have been able to stop killing for a while but not forever.

jaynie
10-07-2006, 10:42 PM
Hi all I am new here and I saw my name so thought I should respond to a few comments made. I am Jane Boroski. "hi" First the detectives and the state police in both states ((New Hamshire and Vermont)) are lying. There is no DNA to test because they lost it. They have lost a lot of things that are very inportant to all the cases. About 10 yrs ago I was sent a letter anomously which I believe was sent to me from my attacker, the letter was hand written, the state police came to my house and picked it up. A few days later they called to tell me there was no finger prints. Today that letter does not exist because they lost it. When they say misplaced they mean it is lost.
All the victims families and myself are not asking for much just the truth. We all need closure. And after 18 yrs I need to move on with my life. I know in my heart and soul that it was Michael Nicholaou that attacked me and I will prove it sooner or later. Mark my words.
I need to ask everyone to keep me and all the families of the victims in your prayers.
Thank-you for your time.

nohwheregirl
10-08-2006, 11:34 AM
Hi all I am new here and I saw my name so thought I should respond to a few comments made. I am Jane Boroski. "hi" First the detectives and the state police in both states ((New Hamshire and Vermont)) are lying. There is no DNA to test because they lost it. They have lost a lot of things that are very inportant to all the cases. About 10 yrs ago I was sent a letter anomously which I believe was sent to me from my attacker, the letter was hand written, the state police came to my house and picked it up. A few days later they called to tell me there was no finger prints. Today that letter does not exist because they lost it. When they say misplaced they mean it is lost.
All the victims families and myself are not asking for much just the truth. We all need closure. And after 18 yrs I need to move on with my life. I know in my heart and soul that it was Michael Nicholaou that attacked me and I will prove it sooner or later. Mark my words.
I need to ask everyone to keep me and all the families of the victims in your prayers.
Thank-you for your time.

Thank you so much for posting, Jane. Consider your words marked. I can't believe so much evidence was lost. Do you think it was really lost, or was it "lost" on purpose. How could the police be so incompetent/calculating?? Why would they lie to the public about the DNA? Sorry for all of the questions, but even after reading the insensitive statements from the investigators, I'm shocked! They seem to be protecting the killer rather than doing their jobs.

You're truly one of the bravest women I've ever known of, and I am so glad you're here to talk to us today. I'll be praying for you and the other victims' families. You deserve justice.

Please keep us updated. As you can see, the people who post on this message board care deeply about these victims and want to these cases solved.

kadrmas15
10-08-2006, 10:06 PM
Well what got me was even in the segment the New Hampshire police said they were not yet convinced they were dealing with a serial killer. Well what would it take to convince them? 7 women murdered 1 woman that was left for dead but thankfully survived. Jane I believe you that it was Michael Nicholaou and I find that disturbing that law enforcement officials handled your case and the evidence in such a careless manner. I hope the New Hampshire state police and Vermont state police dont handle all their cases in the same careless manner. What really gets me about some of these agencies is that they cover things up. Why not just admit the truth? I believe John Philpin has said he agrees with Jane that it was Michael Nicholaou. I am assuming Philpin has studied Nicholaou's profile. I think there are even more cases out there that Nicholaou was involved in that the authorities either have not connected to him or dont want to connect to him. It just amazes me how these law enforcment agencies at times can be so careless with such crucial evidence. That hand written letter disturbes me and must have disturbed you too Jane. I have thought from the time I saw the segment that Nicholaou was spooked when he knew you survived because at the end of 1988 he moved to a different part of the country. Jane I hope you get justice and I hope the families of the other victims get justice. Nicholaou was a serial rapist and killer and it is bad enough they couldnt catch him while he was alive but the truth needs to be brought out on him and I hope you post again here in the future.

fabgourmet
12-20-2006, 06:06 AM
Hey,

Bumping this old thread, this case totally gives me the creeps- I wanted to mention this article I found, don't think it has been posted elsewhere here- well worth the read:

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/11/Tampabay/Tracking_a_ghost.shtml

Also, if Jane B. is still lurking around here, I'd be interested in hearing more from her about her experiences with the police and also about the letter she received from her attacker.

kadrmas15
12-20-2006, 07:28 AM
I have heard nothing new on the DNA or anything. Who knows if it will even be tested or not. I know they had his fingerprints but I never even heard of them comparing them. IT seems the police botched up this one.

skifast
01-01-2007, 06:21 PM
Hi Jane! This is kay, Barbara's friend. AS far as the "nurse" connection, well these attacks were at night. Who for women are out alone in the wee hours of the night? Nurses are. This fall my husband and I really felt that he was a rogue CIA agent and that explains so much. Say he was... and the Government knew he had a little problem post Vietnam....but used him anyway. I talked with a friend who is a Vietnam Vet, and has done some work for the Gov....he agreed with this theory. In fact he said he always felt that this serial killer had all of the markings of such a guy. It really disallusions me to think that this could possibly be our tax dollars at work. Jane, I am so proud of your strength and bravery. Your survival was and is the answer to my prayers. You are so awesome! Thank you for all of your strength. It helps families and friends find closure, for in some ways it ended with you and perhaps because of your survival. Praise God!

ginny86
01-14-2007, 03:42 PM
I have heard nothing new on the DNA or anything. Who knows if it will even be tested or not. I know they had his fingerprints but I never even heard of them comparing them. IT seems the police botched up this one.
Jane Boroski the star witness for the cases has NEVER EVEN BEEN CALLED BACK IN FOR QUESTIONING!!!!!!!!!! So how hard do you think authorities are working to solve the cases? If the original authorities were still in charge, they would have nailed the cases shut with the new information that has come to light. What if Jane was their sister, daughter or beloved friend, might she have at least been called back in to go over some new information in the past 18 years? Also in order to have a DNA match you have to have a good DNA sample from the crime scene to test. The authories have to answer to NO ONE about what they are doing, have done or will do in the future. Some of the victims families really believe they are waiting for that golden phone call from the authories saying if the DNA testing they must be doing is a match or now. I find that very cruel at the least! The orginal police in charge of the investigations were passionate about solving them and they would have done just that with what has now been revealed. It takes hours, days, weeks and months and cash to track the whereabouts of a transient felon who was purposly flying under the radar using false names and social security numbers. It's not easy to conduct an investiation of a nomadic felon. Only the police and F.B.I. have all of the connections, authority and tools available to them that are necessary to finally close out the serial murders. It would take the authorities using those tools, some motivation and a little passion to give these families the answers they deserve. I have heard many times that New England authorities have been "long known for their frugality"and just don't have the budget from their tax payers that is large enough to fund doing much of any work on any cold cases. Yet you would wonder why at least ONE of them might not take the new information that was presented to them and work on it after work, part time as a " hobby" even, to get the cases solved, instead of saying they have so many new murders happening in their states on a daily basis. Pull up the crime statistics of every state in the country for yourself. See if New England is high on the list compared to the other states. Remember those DNA results that were supposed to be announce in the summer? Which summer was that?

seeblue
04-27-2007, 09:37 PM
Hi, I have been following this case for a couple of years and it seems so
unreal that it can't be solved. I hope this board will continue and the people who have posted their thoughts here will not stop. The only way to solve these kinds of crimes is to keep it in the open and never stop looking for the small detail somewhere that will lead to the next break needed.
I ask all who care about these victims and their families to please continue to post here and keep the faith that the answers will come.
I have some theories about these crimes. I'm not completely convinced that Nichalou is the valley killer. I am working on another theory that I will share as soon as my research leads me to the answer to some questions I still have.
Lets keep our minds working toward the solution to these crimes. Lets try to find closure for so many who have lost so much.
Thankyou

jaynie
05-18-2007, 09:40 AM
This is Jane again. For all of you that would like an update here it is. We are still getting the run around by the New Hampshire State police, I was told they do not have the resources to give this the attention I think it deserves. But my investigator is not giving up. She been doing their jobs for them. A lot has happened the past 2 weeks. Fox t.v.in Florida just ran a story on this and we got an anonomous tip that was very good. This Sat 05/19/07 Fox out of Boston will be running another story and I am hoping for more good tips. We were also told that his DNA was put into codis but like everything else we got conflicting info. So we really don't know that for sure. When all this info came to me back in jan of 2006 by an investigator I was not sure what to think. but since then I can not find anything to rule Michael Nicholoua out. EVERYTHING keeps leading back to him.I am totally convinced it's him that attacked me.I do believe he has killed many others. Serial killers don't stop and I was the last one attacked in the CT. VALLEY. Everywhere up and down the East coast that he has been there is a murder. So he had never stopped he just kept moving. Right now Virginia and Florida is investigating him for a few unsolved murders there. Yes he did live in both places he owned a porn shop in Virginia. I believe that he may have killed at least 100 maybe more. This was a very sick monster.
I will update at a later date.

kadrmas15
05-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Well Jane, I hope you get the answers you are looking for, I have a gut feeling it was Nicholaou that attacked you and that murdered those other women. Nicholaou didnt move to Florida until after 1988 right? There is a series of unsolved murders in Lake and Polk County which are not far from Tampa that occured during the 1980's. The NH state police detective that was interviewed in the UM segment, Clay Young, he was in a segment of I believe it was cold case files and he looked basically the same except more gray and he had a beard. Young I believe is now retired from the New Hampshire State Police.

Awsi Dooger
05-18-2007, 10:55 PM
One of my questions was whether Nicholaou was known to go without a mustache. Every picture I initially saw of him included a mustache. The sketch from Jane, of course, did not have a mustache.

But that question led me to this link:
http://www.musicspotproductions.com/RP/CRV_Murders/Stories.htm

You'll notice Nicholaou is pictured on multiple occasions without his typical mustache. Also, the sketch from the 1986 Lynda Moore incident is extremely similar to Nicholaou.

That link includes links to many good articles about this case, just above the pictures.

It's ridiculous the local authorities have not prioritized this case especially with a survivor and her relentless investigator doing so much to help.

Kane
05-19-2007, 10:53 PM
This Sat 05/19/07 Fox out of Boston will be running another story and I am hoping for more good tips.

I just saw that on Fox 25 a short while ago. It was shown on the segment called New England's Unsolved, which is a regular part of the station's Saturday news broadcast.

nohwheregirl
05-19-2007, 11:51 PM
I just saw that on Fox 25 a short while ago. It was shown on the segment called New England's Unsolved, which is a regular part of the station's Saturday news broadcast.

You can see a video of the Fox segment at their website:
http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3255623&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

NOTANEWSBROADCAST
05-20-2007, 04:15 AM
Wow - Just Saw That Clip - 1st Off - You Guys Always Talk About Scariest Composite Sketch - Never Mentioning This Case Being Not Only The Scariest Case On Um But Scariest Sketch - Hands Down!!!
On A More Important Issue, Wow Don't Believe That Was You Jayne - God Bless You And How Brave You Are, And I Feel Terrible For All That Has Transpired In The Last 20 Years - I Pray The Official Answers Are Right Around The Corner As Your Private Investigator Seems Real Determined. She Said She Interviewed This Guy When She Tracked Him Down, How Did She Have A Hunch It Was Him To Track Him Down? And What Did They Talk About? Also Jayne You Mentioned This Guy Sent You A Letter About 10 Years Ago, 10 Years After The Incident - What Did The Letter Say And How The Hell Did He Track You Down? Anyways - God Bless You Again And Lets Keep Track Of This Case.

Awsi Dooger
05-20-2007, 05:23 AM
You can see a video of the Fox segment at their website:
http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=3255623&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Thanks for that link, nohwheregirl.

Excellent report, but IMO the investigator should leave out the 100 number, or anything similar. I know it's sincere on their part but it's undoubtedly wild high and makes the whole thing less believable, somewhat of a reach. If you read those articles from the link I posted above, someone prominent says they have no doubt Nicholaou was involved in some of the events, but not necessarily all of them. When you go from there to 100+ it basically makes him responsible for every unsolved homicide in the areas he was known to frequent. Simply not realistic. How many serial murderers have been known to kill 100+? One by one. And then get away with it. His name wasn't even connected to these New Hampshire/Vermont cases until the murder/suicide event in late 2005.

fabgourmet
05-24-2007, 05:08 AM
Wow, quite some news story.

First of all, hats off to Jane for coming out and telling her story again - shocking to see her and to listen to her speak about it.

I wonder how many people MN really did kill, everywhere he went from Vietnam to New England to Virginia to Florida, there are strings of unsolved murders. This isn't even taking into account murders up and down the interstates of the eastern US not yet connected to him. I remember the same pattern with Ted Bundy, everywhere he went, there was death, and personally I feel strongly that Nicholaou's true murder count was higher than we suspect.

Unbelievable.

Jane, you mentioned that you received an anonymous letter from the attacker which you turned over to police which was lost by them. What did the letter say, do you believe Nicholaou was watching you all those years? How do you think he tracked you down?

jaynie
06-16-2007, 09:41 AM
Hi,
To answer a few questions...The letter I recieved ..I received it about 4 or 5 yrs after my attack. It was a weird letter and basically told me that all the media attention was making him angry and that it needed to stop. I do not believe he tracked me down but when I was attacked 19 yrs ago they didn' t protect the victims like they do now...my name and address was splattered all over the newspapers and tv. I live in a small town so finding me is pretty easy. I am so glad so many people caught the fox report. That was very hard for me to do..but I felt I had to. I am not doing all this for me or not just for me there are a lot of families out there that need answers and closure. And the vicitms can not speak for them selves I feel as if I am their voice now.
thanks so much for all the responses. Oh to answer one more question...MN did not always wear a beard...he was known for a long priod of time to be clean shaven.
bye for now...jane

jjmcgr
07-09-2007, 10:33 AM
I've been interested in the CT River case since I read the Ginsburg book about it. In Boston, near where I lived, the case was not famous at the time, probably because of the New Bedford serial killer who was operating in 1988. But I do remember the UM segment and the relatively recent strange disappearance of that girl in NH after she smashed up her car reminded me of the Valley Killer case.

After watching a recent episode of Sensing Murder about the Colonial Parkway Murders, by a round-about process, I ended up on this spooky case again.

Nicholaou seems as good a suspect as any, although I'd like to see the timeline of his activities sometime. I'd also like to see how he fits in with the Colonial Parkway murders, the Rte 29 case, etc. Seems he was in Mass during those and that's a long drive. But the attacks on vulnerable people in cars in isolated spots seems similar in MO.
Mrs. Moore's son has been quoted as thinking the dots may be connected too widely on this case with this new suspect. I'm beginning to wonder this:
Is it possible there was a Claremont guy who, maybe, is still up there and took that girl recently, and a highway guy, Michael Nicholaou, who attacked women by chance when he saw them in a vulnerable position? The latter wolud have been the guy in the Agnew, Moore and Boroski cases.

Haven't some witnesses come forward in the Agnew case who say they saw Nicholaou at a bar around the time of that murder or something? Of course it was a snowstorm so it makes you wonder what he was doing so far from his base in such weather but maybe he saw it as good cover or he was pu there visiting his wife's family or something.

Jane, to me the spookiest part of this whole case was when the guy started to follow you and even pulled up to the house you went to before being scared off by your friend. When I still lived near Boston, I always planned to go up and drive along that stretch of road just to see what it looked like. But I never got around to it. The recent videos, however, show it quite well. when I was a kid my grandparents would take us to a restaurant just south of Keene but on the other side from where the attack took place (se v. sw). I don't even remember the name of the restaurant but it had mountains in the background and a river.

The hang time on the DNA (it was supposed to be last summer!) seems to validate that the police are stalling because there is no DNA. But it seems hard to believe that all the jurisdictions would have lost the evidence. Some of the cases probably had minimal evidence due to the time that passed before the victims were found, but the Moore case, as a minimum, seems like it should have had something.

Just some random thoughts on a very mysterious case in a place where you'd never expect it.

Sleuther
08-09-2007, 10:59 PM
Wow. Interesting. Thanks for the link. I'm not sure what to think. I think Jane is the authorities best shot at identifying the Connecticut River Valley Killer, and if she is 99% sure that MIchael Nicholaou is him... that's pretty compelling.

On the other hand, the attack occurred 18 years ago, and her memory of what the killer looked like could have faded. In addition, she is a woman who is constantly living in fear who WANTS to see this man either behind bars or dead so she can move on with her life.

I hope they hurry with the DNA results. Even if the guy is dead, the families of the victims have a right to know.

as of august 2007, now, nicholaous fingerprints nor hair samples match. the man jane described attacking her was a "slim, smallish man with blond hair". she made the i.d. of nicholaou WITHOUT a photo line-up after viewing his photo two times before "recognizing him".

unfortunately carelessly carty did not conduct a photo line-up for exact accuracy, instead only showed jane the one photo of nicholaou continuously until jane 'fingered' him, now it is too late to get an accurate i.d.

though i do not think justice and accuracy matters to carty, shes hoping for movies and book deals earlier this summer.

Sleuther
08-09-2007, 11:10 PM
Haven't some witnesses come forward in the Agnew case who say they saw Nicholaou at a bar around the time of that murder or something? Of course it was a snowstorm so it makes you wonder what he was doing so far from his base in such weather but maybe he saw it as good cover or he was pu there visiting his wife's family or something.



in 1987 yes with a jeep wagoneer that jane described in 1988. in 1988 there were 1348 jeep wagoneers registered in N.H., Mass, VT. that fit the description. in this town in hartland vermont there was a small auto shop that specialized in repairing these older jeep wagoneers...lots of wagoneers came and went from that town in the 1980s...so anybody asking about a place to repair one in this town was not unusual at all.

Sleuther
08-09-2007, 11:12 PM
Haven't some witnesses come forward in the Agnew case who say they saw Nicholaou at a bar around the time of that murder or something? Of course it was a snowstorm so it makes you wonder what he was doing so far from his base in such weather but maybe he saw it as good cover or he was pu there visiting his wife's family or something.



in 1987 yes with a jeep wagoneer that jane described in 1988. in 1988 there were 1348 jeep wagoneers registered in N.H., Mass, VT. that fit the description. in this town in hartland vermont there was a small auto shop that specialized in repairing these older jeep wagoneers...lots of wagoneers came and went from that town in the 1980s...so anybody asking about a place to repair one in this town was not unusual at all.

Sleuther
08-09-2007, 11:12 PM
Haven't some witnesses come forward in the Agnew case who say they saw Nicholaou at a bar around the time of that murder or something? Of course it was a snowstorm so it makes you wonder what he was doing so far from his base in such weather but maybe he saw it as good cover or he was pu there visiting his wife's family or something.



in 1987 yes with a jeep wagoneer that jane described in 1988. in 1988 there were 1348 jeep wagoneers registered in N.H., Mass, VT. that fit the description. in this town in hartland vermont there was a small auto shop that specialized in repairing these older jeep wagoneers...lots of wagoneers came and went from that town in the 1980s...so anybody asking about a place to repair one in this town was not unusual at all.

Sleuther
08-09-2007, 11:13 PM
Haven't some witnesses come forward in the Agnew case who say they saw Nicholaou at a bar around the time of that murder or something? Of course it was a snowstorm so it makes you wonder what he was doing so far from his base in such weather but maybe he saw it as good cover or he was pu there visiting his wife's family or something.



in 1987 yes with a jeep wagoneer that jane described in 1988. in 1988 there were 1348 jeep wagoneers registered in N.H., Mass, VT. that fit the description. in this town in hartland vermont there was a small auto shop that specialized in repairing these older jeep wagoneers...lots of wagoneers came and went from that town in the 1980s...so anybody asking about a place to repair one in this town was not unusual at all.

ginny86
08-14-2007, 10:13 PM
as of august 2007, now, nicholaous fingerprints nor hair samples match. the man jane described attacking her was a "slim, smallish man with blond hair". she made the i.d. of nicholaou WITHOUT a photo line-up after viewing his photo two times before "recognizing him".

unfortunately carelessly carty did not conduct a photo line-up for exact accuracy, instead only showed jane the one photo of nicholaou continuously until jane 'fingered' him, now it is too late to get an accurate i.d.

though i do not think justice and accuracy matters to carty, shes hoping for movies and book deals earlier this summer.
WHO ARE YOU TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON ME??? THE MAN JANE DESCRIBED WAS THE SAME AGE , HEIGHT AND WEIGHT AS MICHAEL ANDREW NICHOLAOU WAS AT THE SAME TIME...EXACTLY!!!! SO WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM? NOT FROM THE FACTS OF THE CASE THAT'S FOR SURE. THE PROFILER WHO WORKED ON JANE'S CASE AS WELL AS ON 250 OTHER HOMICIDE CASES IN OUR COUNTRY SAID THE HAIR COLOR OF A PERSON WITH DARK BROWN HAIR CAN VERY WELL LOOK LIKE IT IS SANDY BLONDE WHEN SODIUM VAPOR LIGHTS SUCH AS THE ONES THAT WERE AT THE CRIME SCENE SHINE ON IT. THAT PROFILER IS THE FIRST PERSON I CONTACTED WITH THE INFORMATION I HAD DISCOVERED AND THE HAIR COLOR ISSUE WAS MY FIRST QUESTION TO HIM. WHO ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS TO JUDGE PEOPLE YOU HAVE NEVER MET AND THEN BE SO BOLD AS TO POST YOUR PERSONAL THOUGHTS AND MIS-STATEMENTS OF THE FACTS AS IF THEY ARE THE FACTS ? AS FAR AS NICHOLAOU BEING "SO FAR FROM HIS BASE" WHEN HE ATTACKED JANE....YOU CALL 49 MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD FAR?? ALSO WHEN BARBARA AGNEW WAS MURDERED, JANUARY 10, 1987, MICHAEL ANDREW NICHOLAOU WAS STAYING IN SOUTH ROYALTON, VERMONT, JUST MILES FROM THE REST STOP SHE WAS TAKEN FROM. NICHOALOU WAS INSIDE THE HOSPITAL SHE WORKED AT TOO JUST WEEKS BEFORE HER MURDER, EVEN THOUGH ON PAPER HE LIVED IN VIRGINIA IN JANUARY OF 1987. I GOT INVOLVED IN ALL OFTHIS WHEN MY FATHER AND STEPMOTHER ASKED ME TO HELP THEIR NEIGHBOR ( FREE OF CHARGE I MIGHT ADD) TO HELP FIND WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HER DAUGHTER WHO ALSO WENT MISSING IN 1988 RIGHT AFTER TELLING HER MOTHER SHE WAS ABOUT TO BE KILLED. HER DAUGHTER WAS NICHOLAOU'S 17 YEAR YOUNGER COMMON LAW WIFE. IT WAS HER MOTHER'S DEATH BED WISH TO FIND HER DAUGHTER SO I AGREED TO HELP HER OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF MY HEART SINCE SHE WAS A DEAR FRIEND OF MY PARENTS. I SPENT MY OWN MONEY ON THE DATA BASE BILLS INVOLVED IN SEARCHING FOR HER DAUGHTER AND I DONATED MY TIME. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO. SOMETIMES INFORMATION IS REVEALED IN UNIQUE WAYS AND IN GOD'S TIME, NOT OURS. THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE TIMES. NOW ALL THIS HAS COME FROM SAYING " SURE I WILL HELP THE FINANCIALLY CHALLENGED, BROKEN HEARTED NEIGHBOR FOR FREE. THAT WAS OCTOBER OF 2001. SO FAR WE'VE HAD ONLY HAD ONE VERY WIERD NASTY NUT MESS WITH US IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY. EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN GREAT, TRYING SO HARD TO HELP IN ANY WAYTHEY COULD. THAT OTHER STRANGE PERSON HAD AN E-MAIL ADDRESS ADVERTISING WHAT KIND OF UNDERWARE THEY PREFER. SAY NO MORE!!! DON'T JUDGE ME OR ANYONE ELSE YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU ARE CLUELESS TO DO SO.

ginny86
08-14-2007, 11:13 PM
Really hair and fingerprints have been tested and do not match huh? Well you must be with the FBI to have all this information amd state it as if it were fact, since law enforcement in charge of the cases has not released any information about any hair testing at all!!!

ginny86
08-14-2007, 11:18 PM
in 1987 yes with a jeep wagoneer that jane described in 1988. in 1988 there were 1348 jeep wagoneers registered in N.H., Mass, VT. that fit the description. in this town in hartland vermont there was a small auto shop that specialized in repairing these older jeep wagoneers...lots of wagoneers came and went from that town in the 1980s...so anybody asking about a place to repair one in this town was not unusual at all.
Would it be unusual at all if Michael Nicholaou was asking about the repairs?? It's not that just that anyone was asking!! The witness stated that it was Michael Andrew Nicholaou who came into a place as big as your average bedroom asking and the witness jumped right out of their chair upon seeing his face again after almost 2 decades.

nohwheregirl
08-14-2007, 11:51 PM
Sleuther, it seems that you have some emotional, if not professional connection with this case. Would you mind telling us if/how you are connected to this case? You're making some bold claims.

ginny86, I assume you are the private investigator working with Jane. Could you please confirm?

jaynie
08-15-2007, 11:23 AM
My... there sure has been alot of activity in here lately. I would like to respond to a few things...
1) Yes Lynn-Marie Carty is the investigater that is working with me to solve the Ct. River Valley Murders. Her motive is not to get a book deal or anything else to make money off this...this has cost her money ..lots of money. She has not received a penny. And I can not count the thousands of hours she has spent to investigate this. she is doing this out of the kindness of her heart, to help all of us to get answers and closure we all so much deserve. She is also my friend. She is the most caring, compassionate, giving, energetic person I have ever met. There should be more people out there like her. I feel very lucky to have her as a friend and will cherish our friendship for the rest of my life. I think attacking her by saying she is out to get a book deal was uncalled for. You should not judge some one you don't know.
2) this goes to jjmcgr...He (M.N.) did not follow me after he attacked me....after he stabbed me 27 times he left me for dead, he drove by me while I was on the ground , I somehow got up and walked to my car and drove to get help and I ended up behind him (M.N.) when I got to my friends driveway and drove in.. M.N. turned around and drove back by the house. The stretch of road is heavily traveled. I would call it a main road. But however does have many houses on it. Both commercial and residental.
3) Now as far as the photo goes I have never id'd Nicholaous by the photo as to being my attacker, I did say it was a familiarlaritiy...However he does resemble my composite greatly. I have not doubt that it was him ...for many reasons. Not just because of the photo. Believe me, from the beginning I have thought about everything Lynn has brought to me about this monster with an opened mind. But the more we investigate this whole matter the more he fits. I have NOT found or saw anything that can exclude him. Everytime we look into something he just keeps fitting into the puzzle.

I am going to ask all you guys to please keep peace with each other...I value all of your comments and opinions. Please keep them coming...and I will also try to answer questions the best I can.
Take care all Jane

crystaldawn
08-15-2007, 11:36 AM
This thread has some great and informative posts on it and I'm not about to let it go astray with personal attacks. Sleuther I think your accusations are out of line and you're not going to use this forum to attack someone. Anything negative can easily be deleted.

Jaynie, as always nice to have you posting on here. :)

Sleuther
08-19-2007, 12:03 PM
yes, i do have connection to these cases as well as a lot of inside information that dates back to the early 1980's. at one time there was a task force formed in this tri-state area. fingerprint and hair does not match up so far. there are still many suspects still out there, there just was never enough to wrap it up. its easy to build a circumstantial case against anyone. strange how this jeep was allegedly stolen by nicholaou and then he kept driving it for years after crimes being committed with it? royalton vermont is about 40 miles from the hartford 91 north rest area. i suppose that 40-45 miles could be considered a few miles.

Sleuther
08-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Really hair and fingerprints have been tested and do not match huh? Well you must be with the FBI to have all this information amd state it as if it were fact, since law enforcement in charge of the cases has not released any information about any hair testing at all!!!

yes, i have worked these cases back in the 1980's. there were a lot of suspects that could not be charged nor eliminated.

jaynie
08-20-2007, 07:07 PM
Sleuther if your connected to these cases then please explain how...through a relative...or neighbor or were you on the task force???
We really don't know that MN stolen the jeep he may have borrowed it or may have even owned it but registered it in some elses name.

We have lots of evidence to prove that it was MN. Like new evidence we just came across is way to much of a coincedence. We found the real name of one of the charactors in the book is related to Michelle ..MN 's missing wife. Hmmmmm book was published way before MN became a suspect.

Sleuther if you are related to these cases then could you please explain to me why they are not investigeting MN to rule him in or out. I have contacted them about everything we find and they just choose to ignore it. Why?? We even have MN's laptop that he never had out of his sight ...you would think they would want that but noooo Lynn-Marie even told them about his storage in Florida but not enough resourses to go and investigate that. All I have ever wanted or asked them to do is investigate...do their jobs.

NO one has any right to question Lynn's motive ...all she has ever done is their dirty work and she has been very open and honest with them with all that she has found but they have chose to ignore her.
I called the NH D.A.'s office last yr right after all this new info surfaced and he didn't even know who I was ...I was totally insulted. He never even heard of the ct river valley murders ...now that is pathetic.
They haven't even taken the time to interview one person. I have told them they will never solve this case on the computer...they need to get back to the old fashion way of investigation work. For their sake I hope Dunkin Donuts delivers.
It is not one thing that makes me convinced that MN is the CT. River Valley Killer it is many things...
till next time take care all Jane

nohwheregirl
08-20-2007, 07:08 PM
yes, i have worked these cases back in the 1980's. there were a lot of suspects that could not be charged nor eliminated.

Okay, so you don't think Michael Nicholaou did it. Obviously, there could be a very dangerous person out there harming women. What's to be done about it?
Do you have a favorite suspect? A short list? Do you think the investigation has come anywhere close to solving this case or hitting on a viable suspect. I'm not asking for names, just some insight into where you think this investigation is going...or if it should go anywhere.

kadrmas15
08-25-2007, 07:56 PM
Have you Sleuther? What agency did you work for? You know, I really dont appreciate you coming onto this board and dragging Ms. Borowoski through the mud, she was the one attacked, I think she would know how the man who attacked her looked like better than you would, but that is just my opinion.

I find that interesting that you would say the fingerprints and hair didnt match, again, what agency are you or were you employed by to know this information? The NH state police from what I have read and from what Jane has said, has bungled this investigation so badly I doubt anything has ever been compared to Nicholaou if there was even any evidence left to compare and then you attack Ms. Borowski and her friend, I dont really know what your deal is but I believe you have an obligation to give us all an explaination.

buck1945
10-23-2007, 03:25 AM
yes, i do have connection to these cases as well as a lot of inside information that dates back to the early 1980's. at one time there was a task force formed in this tri-state area. fingerprint and hair does not match up so far. there are still many suspects still out there, there just was never enough to wrap it up. its easy to build a circumstantial case against anyone. strange how this jeep was allegedly stolen by nicholaou and then he kept driving it for years after crimes being committed with it? royalton vermont is about 40 miles from the hartford 91 north rest area. i suppose that 40-45 miles could be considered a few miles.

buck1945
10-23-2007, 04:11 AM
Sleuther, this one is just for you. Who in the hell do you think you are to impugn Ms Carty and her work? Have you ever even spoken with her? Well, I have---many times. And I can tell YOU for a fact that she is working these cases only to help the families of the victims. She has done it, and continues to do it, on her own time and with her own money. Once all of this mess is said and done, I hope she does get a book deal out of it just to recover what she has spent trying to help these families. What did YOU do to help them? I was also in email contact with Ms Boroski once about a year or so back, but I doubt that she remembers me.

If you worked these cases and have so much inside information on them, then you are a part of the problem and not a part of the solution. Why has Ms Carty had to do the police's work----and by your implications----your work, too? To put it bluntly, I think you are a jerk (and that's putting it mildly so my posting won't get tossed out!). She has uncovered more information about Nicholaou and these cases than any police agency ever dreamed of finding.

I am a Viet Nam veteran who actually served with Nicholaou in Nam. And I am telling you that this is not the first case in which he was ever involved that was called murder. I knew the man then, and he relished killing. I don't think think he ever lost his taste for it after he came back from Nam---especially not after the PTSD set in on him. I am personally convinced from having known him and from having been with him in combat that he was totally capable of doing the things that were done to these women.

If you are any kind of man at all, Sleuther, you will post an apology to Ms Carty on this board, and then you will explain fully what your involvement was and is in these cases. So either put up or shut up, Sleuther!

ginny86
10-23-2007, 11:06 AM
yes, i do have connection to these cases as well as a lot of inside information that dates back to the early 1980's. at one time there was a task force formed in this tri-state area. fingerprint and hair does not match up so far. there are still many suspects still out there, there just was never enough to wrap it up. its easy to build a circumstantial case against anyone. strange how this jeep was allegedly stolen by nicholaou and then he kept driving it for years after crimes being committed with it? royalton vermont is about 40 miles from the hartford 91 north rest area. i suppose that 40-45 miles could be considered a few miles.
It's a wonder you don't make yourself dizzy.

Timebaby
11-24-2007, 08:58 PM
Does anyone have information regarding the DNA results?

kamy
11-29-2007, 04:28 PM
Any news yet????

Kane
11-30-2007, 08:39 AM
Any news yet????

So far, there's none. :(

buck1945
01-27-2008, 09:45 PM
You folks must read the story by Ben Montgomery in the Sunday, February 27, 2008 edition of the St Petersburg Times (www.sptimes.com). It is about the murder of Barbara Agnew (one of the serial killers' victims). This story will make your hair stand on end, and it should make you furious at the police up there in VT and NH. They have had the names of the killers for years!!!! They got those names from a death bed confession by one of the participants. And what have they done with that information? No one knows. I hope the public there in NH and VT start DEMANDING some answers from the police and the elected officials in those states. The families of these victims should have had justice for their murdered loved ones years ago.

P.S. I HEARD that "Sleuther", who claimed on this site to have so much inside information on these cases, died in December.

matty magoo
01-27-2008, 10:26 PM
here's the link (http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/27/Life/New_interest_in_Conne.shtml)

nohwheregirl
01-28-2008, 12:55 AM
You folks must read the story by Ben Montgomery in the Sunday, February 27, 2008 edition of the St Petersburg Times...
P.S. I HEARD that "Sleuther", who claimed on this site to have so much inside information on these cases, died in December.
That article did indeed make me very angry. The whole situation is shocking and ridiculous. Police are handed the murderers' names and do nothing about it? Shameful.

How did you know who Sleuther was? If he's dead, could you tell us how he's connected to the case? He would never say exactly. I'm sure if it's not true, he will let us know.

buck1945
01-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Someone who had tracked down Sleuther's identity emailed me the news that Sleuther had supposedly died. Still no idea as to what Sleuther knew about these cases, if anything, or what his involvement was in investigating them. Personally, I think he was a total phony.

buck1945
01-28-2008, 04:05 PM
Thanks for posting the link to this latest news article. My computer literacy doesn't extend to knowing how to do that, so I could only give the newspapers' web site.

ginny86
04-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Sleuther's death certificate says she was a housekeeper. When she ran the Maura Murray site she told some people she with the Police and FBI and claimed to have been connected to 6 of the suspects in the Valley Cases and many of the victims and that she went to Dartmouth and U-Mass Colleges and that she too was a crime victim and that she could not speak, her voice box didn't allow her to speak and that she was in the Army and that Jane herself was all wrong and didn't know who attacked her. Yet, all this being said, her death certificate says she went to 12th grade, people have said she spoke to them with her voice somewhat raspy. She sent investigators photos of a Jeep Wagoner she claimed was involved in Jane's attack, funny thing the Jeep owners come back to the address where Sleuther once lived. She probably had a grudge against them. She said people treated her wrong because of her sexual preference. The truth is even if she was half man and half woman but not a lier that would have been just fine with most people! She injected her self into all of this and lied about it all on a regular basis it seems to entertain herself. She died at age 39 in Minnesotta her parents confirmed.

synthisislab
04-25-2008, 03:58 PM
Wow, what a bizarre thread. Sleuther was only 39 when she died? What was the cause of death and is there any new info on this case?

unsolvedmysteriesfan
04-30-2008, 02:15 AM
I'm hoping Jane Boroski will post here too if she has any updates.

nohwheregirl
04-30-2008, 10:47 AM
I'm not surprised that Sleuther was just a random kook (as Bill Wacker would say). We get our share of trolls but my favorites are the ones who come on here and say, "You guy's don't know what you're talking about! I know the whole story, and so-and-so is totally innocent!" yet never present anything to back it up or reveal how they're "connected" to the case. Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Drakken
05-16-2008, 05:06 PM
Speaking of Michael Nicholaou, I have found this over the Doe Network. That could explain why the Connecticut Valley Serial Killer stopped killing in New England after Jane Boroski survived the attack - at least killing at random.

If Michael Nicholaou is not the Connecticut Valley Serial Killer, well there is a lot of killing around him nonetheless, too much to be only a mere coincidence IMHO.

Case File 2355DFMA

Michelle Marie Ashley Nicholaou
Missing since between November and December, 1988 from Holyoke, Hampden County, Massachusetts
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics

* Date Of Birth: October 18, 1966
* Age at Time of Disappearance: 22 years old
* Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5' 4"; 100-160 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Sandy-Brown, wavy, thick hair; possibly two piercings in each ear.
* Medical: She gave birth to three children.
* Dentals: Growing up, Michelle had a gap in her two front teeth. Sometime while she was with Michael Nicholaou, she had the gap fixed.
* AKA: Nicholaou, Nicolaou, Nicolau, Nicols, Nichols, Nicholno, Nickol, maybe Nichalaon.
* DNA: Available in the National Missing Person Data Base

Circumstances of Disappearance

Michelle was last seen in Holyoke, Massachusetts between November and December, 1988. At the time, she was living with her common-law husband, Michael Nicholaou.

According to family members, Nicholaou kept close tabs on Michelle, and was very controlling - to the point, he would not even allow her to shave her underarms. She went from wonderful, and bubbly, to paranoid, after she hooked up with Nicholaou. They traveled a lot, between Louisiana, Massachusetts, Virginia, Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Vermont.

Sometime in the beginning of August 1988, Michelle took their two children, afraid, and ran away from Nicholaou. Nicholaou was furious and drove to her relative’s homes in New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts, looking for them. It was then that she told her mother that Michael was going to kill her, and when he did, to track him down and save her children. When Nicholaou found Michelle and the children, he forced her to go back with him; three to four months later, sometime after her sister’s November 1988 wedding, Michelle vanished.

When her family went looking for her in December, they found the home abandoned, the refrigerator full of food, the Christmas tree up with wrapped presents underneath, and her children’s baby books, all left behind. There was no sign of Michelle. Michael Nicholaou had run off with the children. Michelle’s family filed a missing persons report.

In 2000, Michelle’s mom asked Private Investigator, Lynn-Marie Carty, to help her find out what happened to Michelle, and to track down Nicholaou and the children. Ms. Carty traced Nicholaou’s steps right after Michelle’s disappearance to Virginia. He left the children with a former employee of his porn shop, stole her van, and ran again. Later, he came back for the children, and went to his brother’s house, where he left the kids for a year. He also visited his mother’s house, also in Virginia; some former Army buddies in Florida; and lived with the children, in the family car in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida in 1992. When people asked about Michelle, he repeated the story of her running off with a drug dealer, or he told others she was dead.

Michelle grew up in Connecticut River Valley, and met Nicholaou in Virginia. Nicholaou grew up in Long Island, and enlisted in the Army, serving in the Vietnam War. He was a highly decorated soldier, who was accused of strafing civilians, held in the stockade, eventually released, as the charges were dropped. He and Michelle moved to Charlottesville, Virginia, where “Nick the Greek” and “Nick the Hammer”, names given to him in the war, opened a porn shop. When the business failed, they moved to Holyoke, Massachusetts. They had a daughter born in Virginia in 1986, and a son was born in South Hampton, Massachusetts in 1988. The two children have since reunited with their mother’s family.

In October 2001, Investigator Carty, tracked Nicholaou down in Lutz, Florida. She called him and his wife Aileen, (whom he would later murder). Ms. Carty asked him a series of questions. He denied even knowing Michelle, but finally admitted he did, but said they were never married, and claimed she ran off with a Columbian drug dealer. At the end of the conversation, Ms. Carty told Nicholaou she was giving Michelle’s mom his number and hung up. According to investigators, Nicholaou tore the phone from the wall, and again went on the run. He and his wife Aileen moved to Georgia, where it is alleged Nicholaou ran her over with a car after an argument, in November 2005. On New Years Eve, in 2005, Nicholaou went to Florida where Aileen was recuperating, and gunned down his estranged wife, and stepdaughter Terrin Bowman. Surrounded by police, he fatally shot himself.

According to authorities, Michael Nicholaou is now a person of interest in the Connecticut River Valley Serial Killings, rapes, disappearances and murders of other women in New Hampshire, Virginia, Texas, Florida, Vermont, Massachusetts, and possibly New York and Illinois.

Drakken
05-16-2008, 05:19 PM
To check how Michelle Marie's story fits with the Connecticut Valley Serial Killer, I have just relistened to the segment. Using the Doe Network's description, I found a chilling syncronicity with the attack one Jane Boroski.

Remember, Jane Boroski was attacked on midnight, August 8th, 1988, in Winchester, New Hampshire.

Meanwhile, at The Nicholaous...

Sometime in the beginning of August 1988, Michelle took their two children, afraid, and ran away from Nicholaou. Nicholaou was furious and drove to her relative’s homes in New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts, looking for them. It was then that she told her mother that Michael was going to kill her, and when he did, to track him down and save her children. When Nicholaou found Michelle and the children, he forced her to go back with him; three to four months later, sometime after her sister’s November 1988 wedding, Michelle vanished.

Now, the question is, why someone like Nicholaou, who is highly misogynistic and control-freak over his wife, would suddenly be mad to the point that his wife would be scared for her life and her run away from home with her two children, to the point that she would tell her family that she will certainly be killed when (not if) Nicholaou founds her, at the same period when Jane Boroski was attacked and was nearly killed? After all, Nicholaou was in couple with her for several years, all the while the CVSK was killing women around in New England. While I have no doubt that she was psychologically and physically abused into submission, she wasn't in immediate threat for her life at that time.

Yet suddenly, in August 1988, Nicholaou becomes so mad at her that she decides to flee, within days, even hours of Jane being attacked in Winchester? What did happen that suddenly changed the situation from Nicholaou simply controlling and abusing his wife, to be so furious to the point of becoming homicidal?

Could it be because Nicholaou, if he was the CVSK, went postal after botching his kill with Jane Boroski and acted out on his wife instead? Or even worse, Michelle Marie heard or saw something that she shouldn't had, for example saw Nicholaou come back with blood on his clothes or a bloody knife? I think the ladder is more probable.

Is this deduction important enough to warrant that I notice the FBI via e-mail, just in case? If they are still around, I would like Jane and ginny86's inputs over what they know of Nicholaou's life with his first wife.

Drakken
05-16-2008, 06:12 PM
I ran a Mapquest query to check the time it would take to travel from Holyoke MA, where Nicholaou was residing with his wife at the time, and Winchester NH, where Jane was attacked. If you look at the map, you will see the road between the two towns is straightforward enough.

Also, if you look at the map, Claremont is not that far North from Holyoke either.

http://www.mapquest.com/mq/1-MLOALHTmX54n_pqN

Directions from A to B:
1: Start out going SOUTHWEST on PINE ST toward HAMPSHIRE ST.
2: Turn RIGHT onto HAMPSHIRE ST.
3: Turn LEFT onto BEECH ST/US-202.
4: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto CHERRY ST/US-202.
5: Merge onto I-91 N toward NORTHAMPTON.
6: Take the RT-10 N exit, EXIT 28A, toward NORTHFIELD.
7: Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto MA-10/CHURCH ST. Continue to follow MA-10.
8: Turn LEFT onto MA-10/MA-63/MAIN ST. Continue to follow MA-10
9: End at Winchester, NH

Estimated Time: 57 minutes Estimated Distance: 49.94 miles

Let's say it took around 5 minutes to ambush Jane, toy with her, run after her, stab her multiple times, leave her for dead, turn back to Jane's friend's house and come back home, Nicholaou would have returned home around 1 - 1:30 AM, perhaps even sooner if he drove faster due to stress or anger.

My question is, when Jane ended up driving behind the assailant's car to her friend's house, was she on or going in direction of I-91? Sadly the segment does not say... but Jane could, if she is still with us.

Also, remember that when the CVSK toyed with Jane, he asked if it was a Massachusetts license plate. Oddly, Nicholaou was residing in Massachusetts at the time. Why would the CVSK ask a plate with that State speficically in mind?

synthisislab
05-17-2008, 02:56 AM
Also, remember that when the CVSK toyed with Jane, he asked if it was a Massachusetts license plate. Oddly, Nicholaou was residing in Massachusetts at the time. Why would the CVSK ask a plate with that State speficically in mind?
I just think it was just a rouse to get Jane caught offguard and get her mind thinking about something else instead of fleeing or fighting off the attacker. There doesn't seem to be any other plausible explanation for it.

ginny86
05-17-2008, 04:20 PM
Yes all this has been said and done and there is much more to this as well. We are getting closer to getting all this resolved. We know alot about Michelle and Michael that we are not putting out there for the general public. Nicholaou was a major marijuana, cocaine and herion trafficker, helcopter pilot, gun runner and killer who discarded woman like yesterdays trash. He didn't like it when his wife left him on his birthday August 4, 1988 either. Things didn't change much for his August 4, 1997 birthday either. He had a bad Birthday then too. That's when he got mad at his neighbors in Florida when their son and his kids got into an argument, so he just took a can of gasoline put it inside their custom antique cadillac and lit the vehicle on fire and then also painted swatikcas' all over their house with spray paint and wrote the words " Dum Jew" and also wrote something like " Repent now or pay later" on their home. He was caught in the act by eye witnesses and arrested for this and it's on his record. He told the police he was just a Vietnam Veteran who needed his medication. Don't you hate it when your kid gets into a fight with the neighbors on your birthday and it ends up costing them their antique car being totalled and their house having to be re-painted?

ginny86
05-17-2008, 04:31 PM
Jane was a case of mistaken identity. The exchange between her attacker and her was real. He was looking for another woman who drove a car just like she did. Nicholaou's girlfriend who had just left him ran away with their 2 kids from the home where they lived in Mass with him at the time. He was a drug dealer. Jane got letters that were very credable in the early 1990's explaining to her that she was a case of mistaken identity. So when that info came into the mix it just confirmed what we also thought. He was looking for another woman who had a car like that who he blamed for getting in a fight with his girlfriend. Michelle was killed because she was going to leave him again after he forced her to go back with him. We believe she found out something and he killed her and " dumped" her body far away from Mass. We believe we have finally found her body after all these years. It will take months for the final confirmation.

Drakken
05-20-2008, 10:46 AM
Wow, thank you ginny86. I am glad to see that my hinch was close to the truth, that Michelle's forced disapperance was linked one way or another to Jane's attack. It's circumstancial evidence, but evidence nonetheless. :)

However, there is something odd. Perhaps I am wrong, but Michael Nicholaou seems to attack people, mostly women, who were known to him and/or close to him in fits of rage or irrepressible anger. Like you have confirmed, Jane's attack is a case of mistaken identity (thus the link to him asking her about her license plate), and thus not a "recreational" type of killing as theorized in UM. Oddly, Michael decided to try to kill Jane anyway even if he knew that Jane was not the person he was targetting, perhaps to prevent her to go to the police.

But then, what about the other women linked to the Connecticut Valley Serial Killer? Was Nicholaou's misogyny and homicidal tendencies so developped that he would also hunt women at random? Or where these victims not so random after all in his mind?

I am glad also to see that Michelle's body has maybe been found. As I suspected, Nicholaou wouldn't have buried her body close to his former home, for it would have been obviously linked to him. But most of all, if her identity is confirmed this will bring at least of some degree of comfort and closure to her family and her children.

ginny86
05-26-2008, 09:06 PM
Nicholaou didn't bury people that was not his style. Nicholaou, his mindset and his killings cannot fit into a neat predictable one M.O. only box. Many things about this sick man and what he has done that have been uncovered will never be able to be shared.

Have you seen Michael Nicholaou's post on line from 1997 where he is asking if any one has the SERIAL code ( wonder how he felt writing that word) to a video game?? The object of the game is to slice off woman's clothing with a knife as the woman moves around. The game is called Sex Master.

It's also pretty ironic that his computer hard drive shows that he visited this very site when he was searching for the Unsolved Mysteries site. It was in 2004. As we all know the show Unsolved Mysteries did a segment on the Connecticut River Valley Murders in an attempt to find the killer. There is also right now at this time another documentary about these cases in the works and it will air in a few months. Let's see what the rest of the nation has to say about all this.

ginny86
05-26-2008, 09:07 PM
I don't beleive in the word closure. I believe in answers that people long to have and so deserve.

Corky Kneivel
05-27-2008, 02:09 PM
I have nothing to add basept this is the weirdest thread I've ever read.

jeep2008
09-13-2008, 03:39 AM
Nicholaou didn't bury people that was not his style. Nicholaou, his mindset and his killings cannot fit into a neat predictable one M.O. only box. Many things about this sick man and what he has done that have been uncovered will never be able to be shared.

Have you seen Michael Nicholaou's post on line from 1997 where he is asking if any one has the SERIAL code ( wonder how he felt writing that word) to a video game?? The object of the game is to slice off woman's clothing with a knife as the woman moves around. The game is called Sex Master.

It's also pretty ironic that his computer hard drive shows that he visited this very site when he was searching for the Unsolved Mysteries site. It was in 2004. As we all know the show Unsolved Mysteries did a segment on the Connecticut River Valley Murders in an attempt to find the killer. There is also right now at this time another documentary about these cases in the works and it will air in a few months. Let's see what the rest of the nation has to say about all this.
I saw Serial Killers on the Loose today on E!, dish network. It will air a couple more times this week, MN and CRVSK. I did some research online and it seems this prolific serial killer may have operated all over the country with dozens of victims. I am wondering if the leap can be made and dates connected of the different murders all to one person. Only one perpetrator mentioned in this program that profiled murders from Florida, Virginia to NH/VT. I am wondering if a connection can be made to MN moves across country?
Still 3 newer missing girls cases in NH/VT in 2004, mostly north of Lebanon, NH, still upper Connecticut River Valley.
I hope Michelle Ashley and her family find peace soon, as well as the other missing girls' families.
I also hope NH and VT police learn from their mistakes. It is hard to put the genie back in the bottle in this day and age as our culture becomes more violent and desensitized to violence. They are going to be called to step up to the plate more often and join the rest of us in this century! Ostriches with head in sand need not apply.

dynoguy88
12-18-2008, 10:45 PM
I'm bumping this thread to mention that I watched and taped the Serial Killers on the Loose special that aired on E yesterday. What an incredible watch that was. It was interesting to hear the details of what happened to the victims. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned Bernice Courtemanche and Ellen Fried's circumstances but not much about the rest.

And then I saw Jane being interviewed, what a treat that was. I had seen the Unsolved Mysteries segment so many times (where her face was blacked out) so I recognized her voice right away. And what chilling details she gave that we didn't know from the UM segment - like the fact that when the killer first forced her out of her car, she screamed so loud she broke the blood vessels in her eyes. Surprisingly, the E special never mentioned how Jane actually pulled up behind her attacker when she pulled out of the parking lot. That incident really added to the creepyness of the whole situation so I'm surprised it was never mentioned.

Has anyone else seen the special on E?

MegtheEgg86
12-21-2008, 01:26 AM
And what chilling details she gave that we didn't know from the UM segment - like the fact that when the killer first forced her out of her car, she screamed so loud she broke the blood vessels in her eyes.

:eek:

dynoguy88
12-21-2008, 08:44 PM
If anyone wants to watch the E special online, send me a pm and I'll tell you where you can find it.

goat
12-28-2008, 12:01 PM
Became interested in maura murray case with cnn 11/25/08 report seems to have happened in crvk zone. can anyone speak of mn's where abouts during this time. mo fits:wave:

marilyn1964
03-22-2009, 07:01 PM
I just want to let you people know that there is another suspect being investigated right now by several state police agencies as well as the FBI as possibly having been responsible for the CRVKs. He also killed some women down in Massachusetts in the 1980's. His last killing was in the summer of 1987 in Massachusetts. The scenario of what happenned has alot of similarities to the Agnew killing approximately 6 months earlier in Vermont. He was a young man in his 20's. After his last killing in the summer of 1987, he fled Massachusetts and was eventually caught in Arizona. Unfortunately for the victims, he was found dead in a jailcell of a drug overdose before they were able to charge him. I know about this, because I was a witness to something that happenned. He is also believed to have murdered other women in Massachusetts. This is about all I can say right now because it's an active investigation and the state police and FBI don't comment on active investigations. Sorry. Marilyn

marilyn1964
05-24-2009, 12:40 AM
Nicholaou didn't bury people that was not his style. Nicholaou, his mindset and his killings cannot fit into a neat predictable one M.O. only box. Many things about this sick man and what he has done that have been uncovered will never be able to be shared.

Have you seen Michael Nicholaou's post on line from 1997 where he is asking if any one has the SERIAL code ( wonder how he felt writing that word) to a video game?? The object of the game is to slice off woman's clothing with a knife as the woman moves around. The game is called Sex Master.

It's also pretty ironic that his computer hard drive shows that he visited this very site when he was searching for the Unsolved Mysteries site. It was in 2004. As we all know the show Unsolved Mysteries did a segment on the Connecticut River Valley Murders in an attempt to find the killer. There is also right now at this time another documentary about these cases in the works and it will air in a few months. Let's see what the rest of the nation has to say about all this.

marilyn1964
05-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Jane was a case of mistaken identity. The exchange between her attacker and her was real. He was looking for another woman who drove a car just like she did. Nicholaou's girlfriend who had just left him ran away with their 2 kids from the home where they lived in Mass with him at the time. He was a drug dealer. Jane got letters that were very credable in the early 1990's explaining to her that she was a case of mistaken identity. So when that info came into the mix it just confirmed what we also thought. He was looking for another woman who had a car like that who he blamed for getting in a fight with his girlfriend. Michelle was killed because she was going to leave him again after he forced her to go back with him. We believe she found out something and he killed her and " dumped" her body far away from Mass. We believe we have finally found her body after all these years. It will take months for the final confirmation.

nancyfromnh
09-26-2009, 02:52 PM
i saw that special i live in new hampshire very near claremont and newport about 15 miles,its always been talk around these parts.I'm bumping this thread to mention that I watched and taped the Serial Killers on the Loose special that aired on E yesterday. What an incredible watch that was. It was interesting to hear the details of what happened to the victims. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned Bernice Courtemanche and Ellen Fried's circumstances but not much about the rest.

And then I saw Jane being interviewed, what a treat that was. I had seen the Unsolved Mysteries segment so many times (where her face was blacked out) so I recognized her voice right away. And what chilling details she gave that we didn't know from the UM segment - like the fact that when the killer first forced her out of her car, she screamed so loud she broke the blood vessels in her eyes. Surprisingly, the E special never mentioned how Jane actually pulled up behind her attacker when she pulled out of the parking lot. That incident really added to the creepyness of the whole situation so I'm surprised it was never mentioned.

Has anyone else seen the special on E?

nancyfromnh
09-26-2009, 03:06 PM
hope you are well,i just watched serial killers on the loose,you are very brave,this is a scary place to live knowing no one ever got caught for these horrible crimes on women,i live near claremont and newport,i hope someday we will get a resolution.i get scared to walk my dogs at night.
god bless

Zlatko
01-28-2012, 11:54 AM
I watched the Dark Minds episode on the Connecticut River Valley Killer. There was no mention of Nicholaou on the show. However, police have a new suspect.

Jane Boroski even believes that the new suspect was the man who attacked her back in 1988. Hopefully the police can bring a conclusion to the case.

crochetbuff
01-28-2012, 02:13 PM
I watched the Dark Minds episode on the Connecticut River Valley Killer. There was no mention of Nicholaou on the show. However, police have a new suspect.

Jane Boroski even believes that the new suspect was the man who attacked her back in 1988. Hopefully the police can bring a conclusion to the case.


It leads you to believe that it's a new suspect, but could be Nicholau and they're just re-acting it up a bit to get more publicity? I don't know. Since they didn't identify this son, or was Nicholau's son uncooperative, while this guy was cooperative? Sorry I'm newer to this story. Yes, it certainly was made to look like it was a completely new suspect.

Zlatko
01-29-2012, 11:06 PM
It leads you to believe that it's a new suspect, but could be Nicholau and they're just re-acting it up a bit to get more publicity? I don't know. Since they didn't identify this son, or was Nicholau's son uncooperative, while this guy was cooperative? Sorry I'm newer to this story. Yes, it certainly was made to look like it was a completely new suspect.If my memory is correct, Nicholaou died in 2005. On Dark Minds, it was said that the new suspect had died back in 2008.

Also, Michael Nicholaou's son is in early twenties. I was given the impression that the new suspect's son in Dark Minds was older. (28 and up)

TammyMay
10-18-2012, 11:33 AM
I am Michelle Nicholaou's sister, Tammy, and I was the last person to see her alive and know the very real and true story of my sister's life. So please do not post that you know the story and then hide behind a screen name. Finally, please respect my sister and our family and stop posting your opinions of the case. BTW she would be 46 today and missing for 23 years and yes those are true facts.

Sister of Michelle Nicholaou

1990 UM fan
10-18-2012, 07:43 PM
I am Michelle Nicholaou's sister, Tammy, and I was the last person to see her alive and know the very real and true story of my sister's life. So please do not post that you know the story and then hide behind a screen name. Finally, please respect my sister and our family and stop posting your opinions of the case. BTW she would be 46 today and missing for 23 years and yes those are true facts.

Sister of Michelle Nicholaou

With all due respect, we are allowed to express our opinions here. They are not a jab at anyone except the accused/suspicious. Some of us may not have the full facts but some of us know enough. A survivor even was sure that your ex brother-in-law attacked her.

WishfulDreamer
03-03-2013, 02:40 AM
I really want to know more about this case. The segment is so well-produced and has just caused me to want to learn more details. For example, did Ellen Freid really tell her sister about the guy circling the block and then leave the payphone, as if to try to get away?

dynoguy88
03-03-2013, 09:05 AM
I really want to know more about this case. The segment is so well-produced and has just caused me to want to learn more details. For example, did Ellen Freid really tell her sister about the guy circling the block and then leave the payphone, as if to try to get away?

Not exactly. She mentioned to her sister about a guy that kept driving around the block/parking lot and then she told her sister to hold on a second while she started her car. She put the phone down, started her car and then went back to the phone and talked with her sister for a couple more minutes.

From the sound of everything, it would seem Ellen Fried's fate was very similar to that of Angela Hammond. The only difference in this case being that the killer waited until she hung up the phone before he struck.

I would suggest you buy the book "Shadow of Death," by Phillip Ginsburgh. It has details about every victim, their lives and their murders.

MegtheEgg86
03-04-2013, 01:09 AM
I would suggest you buy the book "Shadow of Death," by Phillip Ginsburgh. It has details about every victim, their lives and their murders.

I second that. It's one of the two best "UM" books I've ever read, Finding Susan by Susan Harrison's sister Molly Moran being the other. It's extremely thorough and written so well.

WishfulDreamer
03-04-2013, 03:06 AM
Thank you for the suggestions, both of you. I will have to check those out. So far I've only read Susan Billig's book and A Beautiful Child in terms of UM books. I've been looking to read more!

dynoguy88
03-04-2013, 06:10 PM
If you want to check out the site of Ellen's abduction (and the surrounding area) on Google Maps, it's at Leo's One-Stop Market on 130 Main St, Claremont, NH 03743.

After 29 years, the phone booth is still there.

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/EllenF3.jpg

WishfulDreamer
03-04-2013, 07:56 PM
If you want to check out the site of Ellen's abduction (and the surrounding area) on Google Maps, it's at Leo's One-Stop Market on 130 Main St, Claremont, NH 03743.

After 29 years, the phone booth is still there.

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad64/andy80_bucket/EllenF3.jpg
The SAME phonebooth? :eek: Oh, that is chilling! Thank you for the picture. I am looking into purchasing the book you recommended off of Amazon at the moment, by the way.