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James"Thunder"Early
06-07-2006, 03:58 PM
Go Hill! :clap

http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/06/07/ap2800202.html

Associated Press
Hillary Lashes Out at Ann Coulter
By DEVLIN BARRETT , 06.07.2006, 02:08 PM

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton lashed out at Ann Coulter for a "vicious, mean-spirited attack" on a group of outspoken 9/11 widows, whom the right-wing television pundit described as "self-obsessed" and enjoying their husbands' deaths.

Coulter writes in a new book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," that a group of New Jersey widows whose husbands perished in the World Trade Center act "as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them."

She also wrote, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

Clinton, who has felt Coulter's wrath over the years, responded angrily on Wednesday.

"Perhaps her book should have been called 'Heartless,'" the senator said. "I know a lot of the widows and family members who lost loved ones on 9/11. They never wanted to be a member of a group that is defined by the tragedy of what happened."

The New York Democrat and former first lady said she found it "unimaginable that anyone in the public eye could launch a vicious, mean-spirited attack on people whom I've known over the last four and a half years to be concerned deeply about the safety and security of our country."

The senator spoke after delivering a speech on protecting children from exposure to sex- and violence-saturated media.

Coulter appeared Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show, and reiterated her stance, saying the women used their grief "to make a political point."

Her criticism was aimed at four New Jersey women whom she dubbed "The Witches of East Brunswick," after the town where two of them live.

They have spent the years since the 2001 terror attacks supporting an independent commission to examine government failures before the attack, and in the 2004 presidential campaign they endorsed Democrat John Kerry.

The women are Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza of New Jersey.

The women, who are still pushing for changes in how the government guards against future attacks, issued a joint statement after Coulter's television appearance.

"We have been slandered. Contrary to Ms. Coulters statements, there was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again. We adored these men and miss them every day," the women said.



Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed

Janice
06-07-2006, 04:05 PM
Coulter's words were too harsh, but I do agree with her that the Jersey Girls have exploited their husbands' death. Many people feel that way, including some of the loved ones of other 9/11 victims. I've been reading about it for years.

Once they turned political and started bashing Bush and endorsing Kerry, they were fair game for rebuttals. Freedom of Speech works both ways.

Same thing as Cindy Sheehan. A person who has suffered a loss isn't granted immunity from criticism once they throw themselves into the political arena.

Hollow
06-07-2006, 04:07 PM
wooooo i hate that bitch.

Ireneparalegal
06-07-2006, 04:12 PM
The only difference i see here is that Cindy Sheehan's son enlisted and re-enlisted. These four womens' husbands and all the other victims of 9/11 were part of a soon-to-be war they had no decision in. Big difference.

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 04:12 PM
Coulter's words were too harsh, but I do agree with her that the Jersey Girls have exploited their husbands' death. Many people feel that way, including some of the loved ones of other 9/11 victims. I've been reading about it for years.

Once they turned political and started bashing Bush and endorsing Kerry, they were fair game for rebuttals. Freedom of Speech works both ways.

Same thing as Cindy Sheehan. A person who has suffered a loss isn't granted immunity from criticism once they throw themselves into the political arena.

Exactly. Ann can go overboard but her message is dead on about those women.

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 04:13 PM
wooooo i hate that bitch.

I can't stand Hilary either.:D

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 04:15 PM
The only difference i see here is that Cindy Sheehan's son enlisted and re-enlisted. These four womens' husbands and all the other victims of 9/11 were part of a soon-to-be war they had no decision in. Big difference.

But would they be out there bashing away at Bush if it wasn't for their husbands death? Or are they using that as a political platform?

James"Thunder"Early
06-07-2006, 04:16 PM
wooooo i hate that bitch.Ooh, that was harsh

Ireneparalegal
06-07-2006, 04:19 PM
But would they be out there bashing away at Bush if it wasn't for their husbands death? Or are they using that as a political platform?
you and I don't know that answer. I am sure they would love to turn back the hands of time and have the opportunity to be able to say whether they would be FOR BUSH or AGAINST BUSH. But, we can't change history and we will never know what their stand on that would be. The victims of 9/11 didn't ask for this.

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 04:24 PM
you and I don't know that answer. I am sure they would love to turn back the hands of time and have the opportunity to be able to say whether they would be FOR BUSH or AGAINST BUSH. But, we can't change history and we will never know what their stand on that would be. The victims of 9/11 didn't ask for this.

I agree. If they were bigtime Bush haters before 9/11 and where in the public eye then I say more power to them. But if not, it looks more like using the death of their husbands and the victims as a way of bashing Bush.

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 04:25 PM
Ooh, that was harsh

Yea, that was a little harsh against Hilary. Maybe a **** instead of a bitch would have been more appropriate.:lol:

Fleet
06-07-2006, 04:40 PM
As if anyone really cares what Shrillary says!

But I would like to know how her $1,000 investment grew to $100,000 in one year.

MsOrange
06-07-2006, 04:51 PM
yea, she kinda sucked it up on the today show. or at least I thought she did.

Janice
06-07-2006, 05:12 PM
yea, she kinda sucked it up on the today show. or at least I thought she did.
Good segment.

Need to scroll down a bit to see the Coulter interview.

http://exposetheleft.com/index.php

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 05:21 PM
Good segment.

Need to scroll down a bit to see the Coulter interview.

http://exposetheleft.com/index.php

Here's the transcript:

Lauer Offended By Ann Coulter; Delighted by Al Franken
http://newsbusters.org/node/5701
Posted by Geoffrey Dickens on June 6, 2006 - 11:53.

Matt Lauer has two different sets of standards for politically provocative authors. If you are on the left he laughs with you, if you are on the right he slams you. On this morning’s Today show Ann Coulter’s statements drew outrage from Matt but last October when Al Franken suggested Karl Rove and Lewis Libby be executed for treason Matt and the Today show crew laughed. Lauer’s interview with Coulter got particularly testy when he read excerpts from Coulter’s new book and demanded she defend them. Below are the most explosive portion of this morning’s Coulter v. Lauer showdown

Video clip (2:30): Real (4.4 MB) or Windows Media (5 MB), plus MP3 audio (750 KB)

Matt Lauer: "Let me give you some quotes from your book, alright? These are random. 'Environmentalists..."

Coulter: "Yes! Now we're on a subject I want."

Lauer: "'Environmentalists' energy plan is a repudiation of American Christian destiny which is jet skis, steak on the electric grill, hot showers and night-skiing. Liberalism is a religion. A comprehensive belief system denying that the Christian belief in man's immortal soul.' And you go on to say, 'liberalism is the opposition party to God.' How do you think Democrats who believe in God are gonna feel about that statement?"

Coulter: "They probably won't like it. They don't like a lot of things I say."

Lauer: "Is it a fair statement you think?"

Coulter: "Yes, yes."

Lauer: "How about this one?"

Coulter: "That's why I wrote a book about it."

Lauer: "Referring to liberals again. 'To a liberal 2200 military deaths in the entire course of the war in Iraq is unconscionable but 1.3 million aborted babies in America every year is something to celebrate.'"

Coulter: "Yes."

Lauer: "You think people celebrate..."

Coulter: "They manifestly do. They are huge rallies for it. That is the one issue that's more important to the Democratic Party than any other. I mean Bill Clinton, the last..."

Lauer: "Do you think they celebrate the right to choose or, or the actual abortion?"

Coulter: "The last candidate the Democrats got into the White House was Bill Clinton. I, I take that as a fair assessment of whom the Democrats will choose as their representative. Bill Clinton sold out every single special interest group. The criminal rights group, the welfare bureaucrats. The one group he would not stand up to were the abortion ladies. Vetoing bans on partial birth, a gruesome procedure passed by overwhelming majorities in the House and Senate. Twice, Clinton vetoed that. That tells you what the Democratic Party thinks about abortion."

Lauer: "Do you, do you believe everything in this book, do you believe everything in the book or do you put some things in there just that cater to your base?"

Coulter: "No of course I believe everything."

Lauer: "Alright on the 9/11 widows and in particular a group that had been outspoken and critical of the administration. 'These self-obsessed women seem genuinely unaware that 9/11 was an attack on our nation and acted as if the terrorist attack only happened to them. They believe the entire country was required to marinate in their exquisite personal agony. Apparently denouncing Bush was an important part of their closure process.' And this part is, is the part I really need to talk to you about. 'These broads are millionaires lionized on TV and in articles about them reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' death so much.'"

Coulter: "Yes."

Lauer: "Because they dare to speak out?"

Coulter: "To speak out using the fact that they're widows. This is the left's doctrine of infallibility. If they have a point to make about the 9/11 commission, about how to fight the war on terrorism. How about sending somebody we're allowed to respond to? No, no we always have to respond to someone who just had a family member die..."

Lauer: "But aren't they the people in the middle of the story?"

Coulter: "...because then if we respond, 'Oh you're questioning their authenticity.' No the story is..."

Lauer: "So grieve but grieve quietly."

Coulter: "No the story is an attack on the nation..."

Lauer: "And by the way..."

Coulter: "That requires a foreign policy response. That does not entail the expertise..."

Lauer: "And by the way they also criticized the Clinton administration for their failures leading up to 9/11."

Coulter: "Oh not, not the ones I'm talking about."

Lauer: "No they have."

Coulter: "No, no, no. Oh no, no, no, no."

Lauer: "But is your message to them just grieve..."

Coulter: "No, no they were cutting commercials for Kerry. They were using their grief in order to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding."

Lauer: "So if you lose a husband you no longer have the right to have a political point of view?"

Coulter: "No but don't use the fact that you lost a husband as the basis for your being able to talk about it while preventing people from responding. Let Matt Lauer make the point, let Bill Clinton make the point. Don't put up someone I'm not allowed to respond to without questioning the authenticity of their grief."

Lauer: "Well but apparently you are allowed to respond to them."

Coulter: "Well yeah I did."

Lauer: "Right so in other words..."

Coulter: "But that is the point of liberal infallibility. Of putting up Cindy Sheehan, of putting out these widows of putting out Joe Wilson. No, no, no you can't respond it's their doctrine of infallibility."

Lauer: "But what I'm saying is they've..."

Coulter: "...somebody else make the argument..."

Lauer: "I'm saying I don't think they've ever told you, you can't respond. So why can't they make their point?"

Coulter: "Look you're getting testy with me."

Lauer: "No I'm not. I just..."

Coulter: "Ohhh."

Lauer: "I think it's, I think it's, I think it's your dramatic statement. 'These broads,' 'you know are, are 'millionaires stalked by grief-arazzi.'"

Coulter: "You think I shouldn't be able to respond to them."

Lauer: "'I've never seen people enjoying their husbands deaths so much.'"

Coulter: "They're, they're, yes. They're all over the news."

Lauer: "The book is called Godless: The Church Of Liberalism. Ann Coulter always fun to have you here."

Coulter: "Hey where's Katie? Did she leave or something?"

Lauer: "She did. 7:17am. And now here's Ann."

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 05:23 PM
:rolleyes:

James"Thunder"Early
06-07-2006, 05:26 PM
As if anyone really cares what Shrillary says!

But I would like to know how her $1,000 investment grew to $100,000 in one year.I take it you agree with what Coulter said?

Bobby F.
06-07-2006, 05:32 PM
I take it you agree with what Coulter said?

I agree with her message just not the way she said it. How 'bout you Doc?

bossradio93
06-07-2006, 08:01 PM
In a related story (hope it is).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060607/ts_nm/life_coulter_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060607/ts_nm/life_coulter_dc)

Coulter calls 9/11 widows "witches"

By Claudia Parsons

1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Conservative author Ann Coulter sparked a storm on Wednesday after describing a group of September 11 widows who backed the Democratic Party as millionaire "witches" reveling in their status as celebrities.

"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much," Coulter writes in her book "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," published on Tuesday, referring to four women who headed a campaign that resulted in the creation of the September 11 Commission that investigated the hijacked plane attacks.

Coulter wrote that the women were millionaires as a result of compensation settlements and were "reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis."

A spokeswoman for publisher Crown Forum said it had set a first print run of 1 million copies of "Godless" and there were 1.5 million copies of Coulter's previous four books in print.

The four women, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Mindy Kleinberg and Lorie Van Auken, declined to discuss the book in detail but issued a statement saying they had been slandered.

"There was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again," said the statement signed by the four, along with a fifth woman, Monica Gabrielle.

The four women, who live in or around East Brunswick, New Jersey, became friends after September 11 and formed a group that agitated for the investigation. "Our only motivation ever was to make our nation safer," they said.

Coulter, whose books include the bestseller "How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)," argues in the new book the women she dubs "the Witches of East Brunswick" wanted to blame President George W. Bush for not preventing the attacks.

She criticized them for making a campaign advertisement for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry in 2004, and added: "By the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy."

PERSONAL ATTACKS

Asked by Reuters why she made such personal comments, Coulter said by e-mail, "I am tired of victims being used as billboards for untenable liberal political beliefs."

"A lot of Americans have been seething over the inanities of these professional victims for some time," she added.

Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey said Coulter's "shameless attack" on the widows sparked disgust. "Her bookselling antics and accompanying vulgarity deserve our deepest contempt," he said in a statement.

The New York Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp., slammed the comments in an article on Wednesday headlined: "Righty writer Coulter hurls nasty gibes at 9/11 gals."

Coulter, a regular television commentator who is hugely popular among some conservatives, was challenged on NBC's "Today" show on Tuesday over what host Matt Lauer called "dramatic" remarks, prompting her to say, "You are getting testy with me."

Coulter is known for a combative column after September 11 saying, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." In one book, she wrote, "Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do."

Her latest comments were quoted on radio stations in New York on Wednesday and the book was the subject of debate on Web sites such as www.salon.com. The Daily News newspaper's front-page headline was "Coulter the Cruel."

The controversy appeared to be doing no harm to sales of Coulter's latest book, which was listed as the second-best seller of the day at online retailer Amazon.com on Wednesday afternoon.

Yahoo! News/Reuters-June 7, 2006


And some people say Howard Stern's outrageous!

:rofl:

Fleet
06-07-2006, 08:23 PM
I agree with her message just not the way she said it.
I agree with that.

Brent88
06-08-2006, 12:06 AM
Coulter's words were too harsh, but I do agree with her that the Jersey Girls have exploited their husbands' death. Many people feel that way, including some of the loved ones of other 9/11 victims. I've been reading about it for years.

Once they turned political and started bashing Bush and endorsing Kerry, they were fair game for rebuttals. Freedom of Speech works both ways.

Same thing as Cindy Sheehan. A person who has suffered a loss isn't granted immunity from criticism once they throw themselves into the political arena.

:yeahthat

Bobby F.
06-08-2006, 09:28 AM
In a related story (hope it is).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060607/ts_nm/life_coulter_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060607/ts_nm/life_coulter_dc)

Coulter calls 9/11 widows "witches"

By Claudia Parsons

1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Conservative author Ann Coulter sparked a storm on Wednesday after describing a group of September 11 widows who backed the Democratic Party as millionaire "witches" reveling in their status as celebrities.

"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much," Coulter writes in her book "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," published on Tuesday, referring to four women who headed a campaign that resulted in the creation of the September 11 Commission that investigated the hijacked plane attacks.

Coulter wrote that the women were millionaires as a result of compensation settlements and were "reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis."

A spokeswoman for publisher Crown Forum said it had set a first print run of 1 million copies of "Godless" and there were 1.5 million copies of Coulter's previous four books in print.

The four women, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Mindy Kleinberg and Lorie Van Auken, declined to discuss the book in detail but issued a statement saying they had been slandered.

"There was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again," said the statement signed by the four, along with a fifth woman, Monica Gabrielle.

The four women, who live in or around East Brunswick, New Jersey, became friends after September 11 and formed a group that agitated for the investigation. "Our only motivation ever was to make our nation safer," they said.

Coulter, whose books include the bestseller "How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)," argues in the new book the women she dubs "the Witches of East Brunswick" wanted to blame President George W. Bush for not preventing the attacks.

She criticized them for making a campaign advertisement for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry in 2004, and added: "By the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy."

PERSONAL ATTACKS

Asked by Reuters why she made such personal comments, Coulter said by e-mail, "I am tired of victims being used as billboards for untenable liberal political beliefs."

"A lot of Americans have been seething over the inanities of these professional victims for some time," she added.

Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey said Coulter's "shameless attack" on the widows sparked disgust. "Her bookselling antics and accompanying vulgarity deserve our deepest contempt," he said in a statement.

The New York Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp., slammed the comments in an article on Wednesday headlined: "Righty writer Coulter hurls nasty gibes at 9/11 gals."

Coulter, a regular television commentator who is hugely popular among some conservatives, was challenged on NBC's "Today" show on Tuesday over what host Matt Lauer called "dramatic" remarks, prompting her to say, "You are getting testy with me."

Coulter is known for a combative column after September 11 saying, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." In one book, she wrote, "Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do."

Her latest comments were quoted on radio stations in New York on Wednesday and the book was the subject of debate on Web sites such as www.salon.com. The Daily News newspaper's front-page headline was "Coulter the Cruel."

The controversy appeared to be doing no harm to sales of Coulter's latest book, which was listed as the second-best seller of the day at online retailer Amazon.com on Wednesday afternoon.

Yahoo! News/Reuters-June 7, 2006


And some people say Howard Stern's outrageous!

:rofl:

At least Ann talks about current events. How many different times can you hear Stern talk about the size of his pecker.:eek:

Janice
06-08-2006, 11:55 AM
Where was Hillary's outrage when an elected official made a crack about putting a bullet between Bush's eyes, during a Commencement Address last week?

Where was her outrage...where was the Jersey Girl's outrage when that nutty professor, Ward Churchill, called the WTC victims "little Eichmans", and "Innocent? Hardly".

Selective outrage and indignation. :rolleyes:

Bobby F.
06-08-2006, 12:05 PM
Where was Hillary's outrage when an elected official made a crack about putting a bullet between Bush's eyes, during a Commencement Address last week?

Where was her outrage...where was the Jersey Girl's outrage when that nutty professor, Ward Churchill, called the WTC victims "little Eichmans", and "Innocent? Hardly".

Selective outrage and indignation. :rolleyes:

Excellent points Janice!!

Dr. John Becker
06-08-2006, 07:22 PM
Where was Hillary's outrage when an elected official made a crack about putting a bullet between Bush's eyes, during a Commencement Address last week?

Where was her outrage...where was the Jersey Girl's outrage when that nutty professor, Ward Churchill, called the WTC victims "little Eichmans", and "Innocent? Hardly".

Selective outrage and indignation. :rolleyes:

:thanks:

Sean Snow
06-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Miss Coulter certainly did go overboard with her comments, but it fits in with her clear adoration for hate speak which has permeated all of her books and public appearances.

As if anyone really cares what Shrillary says!
I do.

Fleet
06-08-2006, 08:15 PM
I do.
Why?