Why Wally and Beaver had backstabbers as friends?

[GARFIELDKOOL]

Eddie
Lumpy
Larry
Gilbert
Whitey

These were all losers, people that only cared for themselves. Wally and Beaver would have better off being friends of each other. At least they had each other's backs. I'm surprised Wally and Beaver considered them as best friends!

[howilu]

One possibility would be that the producers didn't want the show to be too bland or to open up more situations for Wally and Beaver,

[frani]

i've always thought the friend thing was very interesting. They all had very poor choice in friends. Beaver with Larry, Wally with Eddie and Ward with Fred. Now, you have to allow Beaver whatever he does, because his character is that he is gullible and given to letting others lead him astray. But why on EARTH was Wally friends with Eddie, and heavens, why was Ward friends with Fred? Both Wally and Ward are portrayed as clear-thinking, logical beings who seem to have this tragic flaw in picking friends they are clearly superior to. Ward had more of an equal in say, Bill Boothby, or any of those other golf buddies, and Wally was better matched with Chester. Ward and Wally seemed to always deride Fred and Eddie. They were completely aware of their characters, so what was it that kept them friends? Was it charity, or some self-destructive thing?

Also, notice that June had NO friends. Not even one. Poor June. She should have had a neighbor she could have gone to or something. I wonder what that was about.

:cool:

[GARFIELDKOOL]

i've always thought the friend thing was very interesting. They all had very poor choice in friends. Beaver with Larry, Wally with Eddie and Ward with Fred. Now, you have to allow Beaver whatever he does, because his character is that he is gullible and given to letting others lead him astray. But why on EARTH was Wally friends with Eddie, and heavens, why was Ward friends with Fred? Both Wally and Ward are portrayed as clear-thinking, logical beings who seem to have this tragic flaw in picking friends they are clearly superior to. Ward had more of an equal in say, Bill Boothby, or any of those other golf buddies, and Wally was better matched with Chester. Ward and Wally seemed to always deride Fred and Eddie. They were completely aware of their characters, so what was it that kept them friends? Was it charity, or some self-destructive thing?

Also, notice that June had NO friends. Not even one. Poor June. She should have had a neighbor she could have gone to or something. I wonder what that was about.

:cool:

Yeah, that one thing I noticed too. Ward and June really didn't have a social life. Their whole conversation among one another was about Wally and Beaver.

[treky]

yea, I've noticed that. I wonder why that was?

[tdr]

The reason the friends Wally and Beaver had were selfish, conniving opportunists is, I believe, it obviously it takes those kind to create the situations that largely drive the plots. W&B were basically good, well-behaved kids who wanted to please their parents and not hurt anyone, et al. But stories in which nothing extraordinary happens are not very interesting, so to complicate things for the 'straight guys' are their friends, who also are the ones to compel W&B to do so many wrong things they wouldn't do without their over-eagerness to 'go along' and be thought of in their desired way; sort of a transferral of their earlier desire to be thought well of by their parents.

Nevertheless, in trying to deduce the undeclared circumstances of why Eddie, Lumpy, Larry, Gilbert, et al, as their friends... things do happen that put people together, not always, and certainly not always at first, as friends and it just turns out they grow on eacher other and become friends even though they would have considered that unlikely. I am from a family of 4 kids, having 2 younger brothers, and we happened to move next door to an 'only child' who was between the ages of my brothers, so they did a lot of things together, even though that neighbor was like a mean combination of Eddie [troublemaker], Gilbert [liar], and Judy [boorish snob]. He stole from them, committed vandalism and lied about it and blamed them, and he killed one of our cats by hanging him. Still, the animosity didn't last in those years and they would be 'friends' again sooner or later. Any amiable contact finally ended after he was prosecuted for breaking into our house when he was about 18. If that is a fair indicator, then the New Beaver is largely false in bringing back so many of those 2-faced 'friends' and having the relationships continue... but I suppose that's another topic.

And I don't agree with the contentions here that the Mr. & Mrs. Cleaver had no social life and that June had no friends. The reason it may appear that way is simply because the kids were the center of the action. Ward and June are there because obviously well-rounded kids do have parents who could set up a positive home life and continue to be their guides. It shouldn't be inferred from all we see that they didn't have 'normal' relationships and friends. It's not even true, as the post says it, that "June had no friends-- not even one." A few times we see her in a Mothers' Club meeting or hosting an afternoon tea, and more often she is just seen or talked about going to such activities as part of the plot, that she needs to be away for a little while, usually for something the boys do not want her to know about. And, of course, W&J even go away for a weekend a few times with another couple or a group. They definitely were not friendless.

[Sal]

There was one episode in which this topic is brought up by June in this following classic exchange:

June: "Ward, Eddie Haskell is Wally's best friend and Fred Rutherford is yours. What's wrong with this family?"

Ward:"Well dear, can Wally and I help it if we're humanitarians?"


That pretty much sums it all up rather nicely.

[frani]

Sal, that's really interesting. I LOVE that June said that. Do you remember which ep that was?

[Sal]

No I don't remember the actual episode but I'll keep an ear out as I'm watching the show this week to see when it shows up.

I copied it from the book "The World According To Beaver" and it suddenly came back to me while I was reading this thread.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

Eddie sucker punched Wally by some instigating cause by Lumpy.

Lumpy sabatoged Wally and Eddie's cars.

Larry refused to pay Beaver his money back.

Whitey talked Beaver into climbing into a billboard of soup.

Gilbert conned Beaver into making a face during a class picture snapshot.

These are what Wally and Weaver wanted as friends?

[Jack1000]

The reason the friends Wally and Beaver had were selfish, conniving opportunists is, I believe, it obviously it takes those kind to create the situations that largely drive the plots. W&B were basically good, well-behaved kids who wanted to please their parents and not hurt anyone, et al. But stories in which nothing extraordinary happens are not very interesting, so to complicate things for the 'straight guys' are their friends, who also are the ones to compel W&B to do so many wrong things they wouldn't do without their over-eagerness to 'go along' and be thought of in their desired way; sort of a transferral of their earlier desire to be thought well of by their parents.

Nevertheless, in trying to deduce the undeclared circumstances of why Eddie, Lumpy, Larry, Gilbert, et al, as their friends... things do happen that put people together, not always, and certainly not always at first, as friends and it just turns out they grow on eacher other and become friends even though they would have considered that unlikely. I am from a family of 4 kids, having 2 younger brothers, and we happened to move next door to an 'only child' who was between the ages of my brothers, so they did a lot of things together, even though that neighbor was like a mean combination of Eddie [troublemaker], Gilbert [liar], and Judy [boorish snob]. He stole from them, committed vandalism and lied about it and blamed them, and he killed one of our cats by hanging him. Still, the animosity didn't last in those years and they would be 'friends' again sooner or later. Any amiable contact finally ended after he was prosecuted for breaking into our house when he was about 18. If that is a fair indicator, then the New Beaver is largely false in bringing back so many of those 2-faced 'friends' and having the relationships continue... but I suppose that's another topic.

And I don't agree with the contentions here that the Mr. & Mrs. Cleaver had no social life and that June had no friends. The reason it may appear that way is simply because the kids were the center of the action. Ward and June are there because obviously well-rounded kids do have parents who could set up a positive home life and continue to be their guides. It shouldn't be inferred from all we see that they didn't have 'normal' relationships and friends. It's not even true, as the post says it, that "June had no friends-- not even one." A few times we see her in a Mothers' Club meeting or hosting an afternoon tea, and more often she is just seen or talked about going to such activities as part of the plot, that she needs to be away for a little while, usually for something the boys do not want her to know about. And, of course, W&J even go away for a weekend a few times with another couple or a group. They definitely were not friendless.

Agree with the above,

Their controversal friends were needed to produce the great storylines. Without these friends, the show would not have been the success that it was. Also notice how the writers/producers ALWAYS kept Beaver very gullable and taking bad advice from the 2nd-8th grade. They needed that to keep the chemestry of the show synchronized with who Beaver was/is. Changing those behavior patters would have no longer made Beaver "The Beaver."

Jack

[jehobden]

Eddie sucker punched Wally by some instigating cause by Lumpy.

Lumpy sabatoged Wally and Eddie's cars.

Larry refused to pay Beaver his money back.

Whitey talked Beaver into climbing into a billboard of soup.

Gilbert conned Beaver into making a face during a class picture snapshot.

These are what Wally and Weaver wanted as friends?

Don't forget Richard, who broke a window then gave Beaver's name to the Police when he was caught running away from the scene.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

Don't forget Richard, who broke a window then gave Beaver's name to the Police when he was caught running away from the scene.

I would have listed Richard, but he wasn't a real regular. That incident you listed definitely qualifies. I forgot about that! Damn, did they ever have any decent friends that cared for others?!

[GCW]

Eddie sucker punched Wally by some instigating cause by Lumpy.

Lumpy sabatoged Wally and Eddie's cars.

Larry refused to pay Beaver his money back.

Whitey talked Beaver into climbing into a billboard of soup.

Gilbert conned Beaver into making a face during a class picture snapshot.

These are what Wally and Weaver wanted as friends?

That one about the class picture was really messed up. And Gilbert kept pushing Beaver to do it and Gilbert himself did not even make a face.

[tdr]

I would have listed Richard, but he wasn't a real regular. That incident you listed definitely qualifies. I forgot about that! Damn, did they ever have any decent friends that cared for others?!

Remember that in the first 2 seasons, 2 of Wally's best friends were Chester and Tooey, and they did not fit the pattern of Eddie, Larry, Gilbert/Richard, and Lumpy. Tooey was a little whacky, and his 'coke bottle' glasses were often a joke, but he wasn't the kind of troublemaker as Eddie and Lumpy. Chester was probably closest to the "decent...and cared for others" type; but we always read he wasn't interesting because he was "so much like Wally," only more sure of himself. Probably the biggest exception is "The Boat Builder" where Chester and Tooey talk Wally and Beaver into putting Beaver into that crazy boat. But anyway, it was Eddie and Lumpy who were funnier and got more audience response [mail], so they were the 2 it was decided to go with.

The reason I wrote Gilbert/Larry like that is because they were virtually the same character; talking Beaver into making a face in the class picture, sneaking his identiical jacket in and out of the house, giving Beaver's name as his own to the police, opening the emergency door to let him into the theater without paying,.....

Yeah, the show would have been much more dull without the more 'colorful' friends.

[Jack1000]

Why is it that I absolutely can not STAND Richard? I don't know what it is. I always that Larry was the biggest troublemaker of Beaver's friends. Later when Rusty Stevens moved away with his family to New Jersey, (he still lives there now,) they brought Glibert into more story lines as a replacement for Larry and tried to introduce Richard. But for some reason, I never liked him. Anyone else feel the same way?

As a side note, the actor who played Richard, Richard Correll became a TV series director most notibly for Miller-Boyet Productions, which did such series as Step By Step and The Hogan Family. He formed a band with Jerry Mathers around the last season of the series called "Beaver and The Trappers" (Richard played drums,) and is still friends with Jerry Mathers to this day.

Jack

[Jack1000]

The reason I wrote Gilbert/Larry like that is because they were virtually the same character; talking Beaver into making a face in the class picture, sneaking his identiical jacket in and out of the house, giving Beaver's name as his own to the police

The jacket incident and the police incident were done by Richard.

Jack

[JudgeGarth]

I liked Richard better than Beaver's other friends. He didn't seem to be quite as much of a jerk as Beaver's other friends, the rock-throwing incident notwithstanding.

[frani]

Interesting. I always thought of Richard as the most realistic character in the show. He was not like Tooey and Chester who were right out of the Dead End Boys, it seemed. And he wasn't too "on the nose" goofy. He seemed just like a real kid. He was kind of annoying, but likeable anyway. He seemed more "sixties" than the rest of the friends. And Gilbert, he was just like a miniature Jerry Halper, don't you think?

[tdr]

The jacket incident and the police incident were done by Richard.
Jack

It's more than once lately in my message board posts that I have had a name or a thing on my mind and I wrote the wrong one :rolleyes: .

Anyway, those are the 2 incidents in which I wish Beaver would punch Richard a good one. For giving Beaver's name to the police, obviously; but in the jacket episode, after Richard's jacket is found again, Richard says, "Look Beaver-- I'm doin' you a big favor! How many other guys would go through all the trouble I went through to get you out of the mess you got yourself in?" And stupid Beaver says, "Yyyyeah, I guess you're right."

BTW this thread has gotten the most replies of any since February. Alright!

[GCW]

Beaver's friends were backstabbers but I would find myself getting mad at Beaver for being so stupid. Once or twice okay but he kept falling for their schemes all the time.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

Beaver's friends were backstabbers but I would find myself getting mad at Beaver for being so stupid. Once or twice okay but he kept falling for their schemes all the time.

Yeah, you did have to wonder about Beaver for being so gullible. There was no excuse for him being that stupid to climb in a billboard soup bowl. That one took the cake.

[Mrs. Ducky]

Does anyone else think that Beaver had self esteem issues? I mean, he was always giving in to peer pressure and he had to live in brother's shadow. Maybe this is why he had such lousy friends. One of my friends who lives with low self esteem is constantly trying to make new friends and draw attention to herself. Maybe it could be the same for the Beav?

[Opal]

Also, notice that June had NO friends. Not even one. Poor June. She should have had a neighbor she could have gone to or something. I wonder what that was about.

:cool:

Yeah, it would have been cool if she had an "Ethel Mertz" type of friend she could hang with and pull schemes with... but June wasn't that type of character (like Lucy).
But she could at least have had a friend to drink tea with in the afternoons. lol

[Opal]

He stole from them, committed vandalism and lied about it and blamed them, and he killed one of our cats by hanging him. Still, the animosity didn't last in those years and they would be 'friends' again sooner or later. Any amiable contact finally ended after he was prosecuted for breaking into our house when he was about 18. If that is a fair indicator, then the New Beaver is largely false in bringing back so many of those 2-faced 'friends' and having the relationships continue... but I suppose that's another topic.

Were your brothers that desperate for a friend? I can’t see anyone I know -- even on their worst days -- doing those twisted things to me. It sounds like this person needed (and still does) psychiatric help. I wouldn’t be friends with a person like that if they were the last on earth. Hanging a cat? That’s sick and incredibly cruel…. and I think that would be the tip-off (if the first couple of robberies weren’t).

[nerrad]

That's right. I never realized until I started watching these DVD that their friends were silly characters.

[craviola990]

All true- The show could have simply run out of steam without the added coniving characters. And let's look at ourselves; don't we ALL have "Friends" in our lives that are less than desirable, but for some reason, we keep them around for their "Colourful" qualities, or maybe, perhaps, because we have a hard time getting rid of them?! Thanks, Christian

[craviola990]

I can't imagine anyone harming or killing an animal like that; makes my stomach turn; no, churn. Christian

[craviola990]

Yeah, Richard was more on "Beavers side" than the other guys. I also understand that Richard Correll was Jerry Mather's best man at his first wedding. He of course, went on to produce "Family Matters", and other hit shows. Christian

[GARFIELDKOOL]

All true- The show could have simply run out of steam without the added coniving characters. And let's look at ourselves; don't we ALL have "Friends" in our lives that are less than desirable, but for some reason, we keep them around for their "Colourful" qualities, or maybe, perhaps, because we have a hard time getting rid of them?! Thanks, Christian

I understand that, but at least have ONE friend out the bunch that is close to a saint. There has to be a good guy in every crowd. I have had a few friends like Beaver's and Wally's, which is why they are my former friends.

[kooky12]

I see how the tone for this was set up at the very beginning. I just got season 1 on dvd. First ep, Beav's school buddies convince him that the teacher's note is about something bad he did & he will get expelled. Third ep, the Rutherford daughter give Beav a black eye !

[Mrs. Periwinkle]

Beav's friends I always thought were meaner than Wally's friends...Eddie was a creep, but he usually was pretty nice to Wally (he mostly made fun of Beaver). Tooey was fine, even though I never thought he really fit in with Wally's personality. (He seemed too "nerdy" to me.)

Beaver's friends, on the other hand, were always letting him down. Notice how Beaver never gets into trouble on his own--one of his "friends" always push him into doing something that he doesn't want to do and then he gets into trouble with his parents. Oh well, if he didn't have the lousy friends, we wouldn't have such an enjoyable show! :)

[frani]

About Tooey being too nerdy, I agree. I think those earlier friends of Wally's -- Chester, Tooey, etc. were kind of based on the "Dead End Kids" from the 40's and there were all different types. Tooey seems like a 30's or 40's kind of a kid. The earlier eps had a 40's feel to them anyway. If you watch old movies from that time, maybe you see what i mean.:wave:

[nerrad]

Good thread. That's one of the things about LITB that used to strike a nerve with me. Both Beaver and Wally were naive, even though Wally tried to act as if he was soooo smart and grown. I often wondered why they would always get taken for a ride by their friends. And every time I see Larry Mondello, it makes me want to hit him.:happyface I don't know. Just his whole dopey look. Fat, always eatig apples and sneaky as hell.

[Tweety]

... But why on EARTH was Wally friends with Eddie, and heavens, why was Ward friends with Fred? Both Wally and Ward are portrayed as clear-thinking, logical beings who seem to have this tragic flaw in picking friends they are clearly superior to. Ward had more of an equal in say, Bill Boothby, or any of those other golf buddies, and Wally was better matched with Chester. Ward and Wally seemed to always deride Fred and Eddie. They were completely aware of their characters, so what was it that kept them friends? Was it charity, or some self-destructive thing?


:cool:



I'm not sure Ward was crazy about spending any time with Fred... they worked in the same office, but if Ward never saw Fred outside the office, I think it would have been fine with him.

And you're right...Ward and Wally understood Fred and Eddie perfectly... and it is a wonder why they ever spent any time with them socially. Maybe when you know what kind of a person Fred/Eddie is, it's a little easier to put up with their crap, because you know what's coming...

Even if Wally and Eddie were best friends from early childhood, there's no reason for Wally to keep hanging out with Eddie after all the stuff Eddie got away with... maybe Wally felt sorry for Eddie, because other than Lumpy, Wally was probably the only friend Eddie ever had.

I wonder if June and Gwendolyn (Fred's wife, she may have had a couple of different first names during the run of the show) were kind of friends, and maybe Ward put up with Fred in order for June and Fred's wife to get together in a social setting... I don't think Ward or June ever thought there was anything wrong with Fred's wife, just with Fred, right?

[nerrad]

"See you around the salt mines". Fred said it so much, I used to think that's where they were employed.:)

[Tweety]

"See you around the salt mines". Fred said it so much, I used to think that's where they were employed.:)


wait a minute...you mean they WEREN'T?? :)

[Torgo]

I wouldn't call Whitey a loser, besides the soup bowl incident I don't recall Whitey tricking Beaver.
Everyone calls Beaver's friends losers and jerks, but if Beaver is dumb and gullible enough to do these things, he's as much a loser as they...But seriously, if all of Beaver's friends were well behaved, what a boring show that would be. Beaver would never get in trouble.

Larry: Hey, Beav, this is a really neat pipe your father has.
Beaver: Yes, it is.
Larry: Let's put it back so we can go upstairs and read comics.

Larry: Hey, Beav, this is a really neat old baseball with autographs your father has.
Beaver:Yes, it is.
Larry: Let's put it back so we can go upstairs and read comics.

Larry: Behind that closed door is my sister's room. I think she might have a diary, but I never go in her room unless invited, and I would never invade her privacy by reading her private thoughts.
Beaver: Let's go in your room and read comics.

Whitey: I wonder if there's real soup in that giant bowl?
Beaver: Should I climb up and look?
Whitey: No that's dangerous, let's go to Larry's and read comics.

Gilbert: You know, Beaver, you and your father made a really neat kite. I can't wait for you and your father to try it out tomorrow.
Beaver: I can't wait either. To get our minds off it let's go read some comics.

[bingbangbaby]

Ha ha That's funny Torgo :)
I think that Beaver attracted these kinds of friends because this was the kind of kid he was. I don't think he needed these friends to get into trouble, I think it just happened to him, so his "friends" helped it along. Maybe for the fun of it, maybe because they knew Beaver attracted trouble anyway so they'd be able to run and leave Beaver holding the bag when trouble came. It seems like I remember a lot of episodes where Beaver found himself mixed up in something that had nothing to do with his friends. And if I remember correctly (and I could be wrong), but didn't Gilbert tell Beaver he shouldn't let that "bum" in the house and Beaver did it anyway? I think Beaver's friends were just the kind of kids that Beaver attracted...same way he attracted trouble, and he didn't have sense enough--or in 50's mentality, he was too innocent and too kind hearted-- to recognize the trouble or the friends for what they were. That's what the show was about, I think, and why it was called "Leave It to Beaver."

As for Ward and June's social life...it sure seems like they were often enough worried about what their friends would think...remember Wally's "jellyroll" hairstyle and his "loud" suit? They voiced concerns about what their friends would think in those instances.

[Torgo]

I think your right about the bum episode. It's seems Gilbert warned him against it, but Beaver said his dad always told him he should help people.

Of course Eddie was there to encourage Beaver to do things. But If I recall, the Record Club was all Beaver's own doing. And also the episode where Beaver forgot the boy's birthday party was his own fault.

And it's not like Beaver is the only kid to ever fall to peer pressure. I know I did things as a kid I never would have done if I was alone.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

I think your right about the bum episode. It's seems Gilbert warned him against it, but Beaver said his dad always told him he should help people.

Of course Eddie was there to encourage Beaver to do things. But If I recall, the Record Club was all Beaver's own doing. And also the episode where Beaver forgot the boy's birthday party was his own fault.

And it's not like Beaver is the only kid to ever fall to peer pressure. I know I did things as a kid I never would have done if I was alone.

But Gilbert also conned Beaver into making a face in the school pictures. Gilbert claimed he was going to do it and didn't, and Beaver was stupid enough to make a face, making himself look bad.

[Torgo]

I never said Gilbert didn't get Beaver into trouble, I even mentioned the Kite Day episode in my silly quotes where Gilbert got Beaver to try out the kite. And Gilbert was also there during the long distance call episode, and he left Beaver hanging in the episode where Beaver and him were playing around in the family car.
Bingbangbaby and I were just mentioning there were a few times Beaver got himself in trouble.

[Schmoopie]

I think Beaver and Wally just tried really hard to like everyone and ended up befriending people who took advantage of them. Believe me, I have had experience in that area!

[catlover79]

I think the most honest friend Beaver ever had was Gus the Fireman!! :lol:

[MickeyMac]

Look at it this way, if Beaver and Wallys friends were straight shooters like them, the the show would be boring.

[catlover79]

Look at it this way, if Beaver and Wallys friends were straight shooters like them, the the show would be boring.
That's right! I have to admit I loved it when Larry (I THINK it was Larry) dumped his mother's money out of the window and told Beaver it must have fallen out of an airplane. :rofl:

[MickeyMac]

That's right! I have to admit I loved it when Larry (I THINK it was Larry) dumped his mother's money out of the window and told Beaver it must have fallen out of an airplane. :rofl:


IT was Larry, and Beaver totally fell for it. :lol:

[catlover79]

IT was Larry, and Beaver totally fell for it. :lol:
I thought so. :lol: How could Beaver be so gullible? :eek: :lol:

[Hughsgirl]

Besides the obvious in having these "friends" of the boys "mix things up" to keep the show interesting, I think that having these friends was just apart of them being too nice and that includes Ward when it comes to Fred. They are just too nice and feel they should be socialable with any moron that crosses their path.
What I DON'T understand was why they (The Cleaver men), didn't occassionally fly off the handle and sock them in the nose. That would have been more realistic. Like take for instance that episode where Eddie tricks Wally into switching dates with him because he knew the girl was too tall. I can't recall the name of the episode, but they were to ask girls to a dance from another school and after Wally came home from meeting her and seeing she was much taller, he found eddie waiting for him in his room and for ONCE Wally had his fist cocked back to sock him when June walked in and interupted it so Eddie could make a quick escape. That was a REAL response from a typical teenage boy! Nothing worse then seeing someone CONSTANTLY turn the cheek and that's what they seemed to do ALL THE TIME! That's one of the only grips I have about the show.

[catlover79]

I'm now watching S2 on DVD, and Wally DID threaten to punch Eddie in the nose for a trick he played on the Beaver (teaching Beav to tell the Spanish boy his face looked like a pig's). At least that was something!

[catlover79]

You could see why Lumpy was so screwed up (with a father like Fred Rutherford, who wouldn't be? :eek:). Did we ever see Eddie's parents?

[MickeyMac]

Lumpy and Eddie were afraid of Wally and there were times when Wally got in their faces and they backed away. I think thats the reason why Wally never went off on them because he knew they were cowards.

[MickeyMac]

You could see why Lumpy was so screwed up (with a father like Fred Rutherford, who wouldn't be? :eek:). Did we ever see Eddie's parents?


Sure did. His father was George Haskell who was played by George Petrie. Mr. Haskell was always potrayed as being dissapointed in Eddie, why his mother appeared to be sympathetic.


Geogre Petrie by the way played several characters on The Honeymooners, and as Harv Smithfiled, the Ewings attorney on Dallas. Petrie was in the first Dallas TV reunion movie in 1996. He died a year later.

[JudgeGarth]

Sure did. His father was George Haskell who was played by George Petrie.


Somebody else played Eddie's father in the first season or so. He was the one who spotted Beaver and Wally on the train when they spent all their money and had to have the conductor lend them some and he was also in the episode with the voodoo curse.

In those early eps, Eddie said his father owned a garage.

[Vito]

Somebody else played Eddie's father in the first season or so. He was the one who spotted Beaver and Wally on the train when they spent all their money and had to have the conductor lend them some and he was also in the episode with the voodoo curse.

Yes, and George Petrie played Eddie's dad on only a small number of later episodes. The ones that come to mind are the episode about Eddie trying to get a summer job on a fishing boat, and the episode in which Eddie uses his father's credit card to get Wally's car repaired. Two of my favorites. :lol:

[catlover79]

Sure did. His father was George Haskell who was played by George Petrie. Mr. Haskell was always potrayed as being dissapointed in Eddie, why his mother appeared to be sympathetic.


Geogre Petrie by the way played several characters on The Honeymooners, and as Harv Smithfiled, the Ewings attorney on Dallas. Petrie was in the first Dallas TV reunion movie in 1996. He died a year later.
OK, thanks for clearing that up! I did know that Lumpy's mom was played a few times by Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, who later married Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek.

[liane49]

One possibility would be that the producers didn't want the show to be too bland or to open up more situations for Wally and Beaver,
I guess if they were normal kids or kids that acted nicer, the show wouldn't be as funny or people would get board.

[Neutronman67]

Wally and the Beaver would grow up to be wimpy men if they dident have bad boy type friends in their lives lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyezs67gdM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb13waZ0JdU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzmhUJCOQeI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etCNHdIAe34

[mrbreezeet1]

Yeah, that one thing I noticed too. Ward and June really didn't have a social life. Their whole conversation among one another was about Wally and Beaver.
no, i guess June really didn't have a friend.
They used to play bridge with Fred and his wife.
And June was in some kind of laddies club, she had the luncheon when Stanley the monkey got into the food, and swung from the chandelier and ran out the window.