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crystaldawn
05-26-2006, 12:39 PM
Everyone is always inquiring if there are updates to any of the cases profiled on UM. We all know that Lifetime has dropped the ball many times when it comes to providing updates. I thought it would be a good idea to post this as a sticky and then all of us could post updates (and hopefully links to articles if possible) to UM cases with new developments that we know about. It would be a good way for regular posters as well as newbie's to get update information in one place. So please all of you that know of updates to cases, even if you've posted them on other threads before, feel free to post them here.

I'll start off with the case of Dorothy Donovan. She was the elderly lady murdered in her home. Her son, Charles Holden, had picked up a hitchhiker earlier that night who had threatened him. When Charles sped off the hitchhiker apparently went to Holden's mother's house and killed Dorothy. There has been a recent arrest in the case and here is a link:

http://www.doverpost.com/PostArchives/01-25-06/pages/newsmurder.html

crystaldawn
05-27-2006, 11:20 AM
Arrest in the Data Satterfield murder. Remember she was the owner of a beauty salon who was found raped and murdered in her salon. A door-to-door saleslady got a good look at the suspect.

http://www.fox21.com/Global/story.asp?S=4739267&nav=2KPp

Also update in the Carson Prince case. Carson was seen fighting with a man while riding in a pickup truck and fell and subsequently died of her injuries. A man has admitted to killing her and has been arrested.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=38900

kadrmas15
05-29-2006, 07:09 PM
Hey, thanks for those updates. I was aware of the update in the Carson Prince case but not the other ones. Yes Stephen Talley belongs behind bars. It looks like Talley pleaded guilty to three counts of felony murder and in exchange the prosecution didnt seek the death penalty. Talley was sentenced to life in prison without the possiblity of parole. Talley murdered Christopher Barnes and I think he said Barnes was murdered just to get him out of the way really nothing personal. Talley then raped Barnes's girlfriend Barbara Leggitt before he strangled her to death. I believe this occurred in June of 1999 a couple of months after Carson Prince was murdered. Prince was just in the wrong place at the wrong time when her car ran out of gas and she was walking down the interstate and Talley saw her. Price being young and trusting got in his truck and then she struggled with him when he told her he was going to rape her. Talley hit her in the head with a wrench but she kept struggling and she opened the door and he slammed on his brakes and she fell out. I wouldnt be surprised if Talley is responsible for more murders. Here is a link to Talley's prison file.
http://www.arkansas.gov/doc/inmate_info/search.php?dcnum=133635&lastname=talley&sex=b&agetype=1
Talley is currently serving his life sentence at the Cummins Unit which about 30 miles south of Pine Bluff in Lincoln County, Arkansas near the town of Grady.

PrettyinPink55
05-29-2006, 07:23 PM
This thread was a good idea!!
Thanks crystaldawn!! :D

crystaldawn
05-29-2006, 07:55 PM
My pleasure PrettyInPink55. It will be nice to have all the updates on one thread.
:)

Great research as always kadrmas15. :)

kadrmas15
05-29-2006, 08:33 PM
Thank you Crystaldawn, glad to be of service. Well Stephen Talley's mugshot scared the crap out of me. Geese what a creepy guy. I also heard his wife had "always suspected" that he was involved in Carson Price's murder. Didnt she turn him in like four years after the fact? I mean wow, if she thought that I dont understand how she could live with this guy for so long afterwards.

crystaldawn
05-29-2006, 08:44 PM
Thankfully the sleaze has been arrested and convicted of her murder. She was the 6 year old girl from Canada who was abducted while out playing with her friend. Her body was found shortly after.

http://www.cp.org/english/online/full/National/050527/n052738A.html

kadrmas15
05-30-2006, 02:19 AM
I know this really isnt an update. But remember John List? The man who murdered his wife and his children and his elderly mother in 1971? Well I was surprised to find List is still alive and is in prison in Union County, New Jersey. List is 80 years old and will be 81 in September. Here is a link to his file:
https://www6.state.nj.us/DOC_Inmate/details?x=1041811&n=0

wiseguy182
05-30-2006, 06:43 AM
I know this really isnt an update. But remember John List? The man who murdered his wife and his children and his elderly mother in 1971? Well I was surprised to find List is still alive and is in prison in Union County, New Jersey. List is 80 years old and will be 81 in September. Here is a link to his file:
https://www6.state.nj.us/DOC_Inmate/details?x=1041811&n=0

Has a lot in common with the William Bradford Bishop case. He also murdered his wife, children and elderly mother in the early 70's. Bizarre. Unfortunately, Bishop has never been caught to my knowledge. What really stood out in that segment for me was Bishop's former D.C. coworker running into him in Italy. Talk about your chance encounters.

LooksLikeCRicci
05-30-2006, 01:08 PM
Also update in the Carson Prince case. Carson was seen fighting with a man while riding in a pickup truck and fell and subsequently died of her injuries. A man has admitted to killing her and has been arrested.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=38900


Wow! I had NO clue that this case had ended in an arrest and a confession. Great research, CD! My stomach turned at the killer's description of "looking for someone to rape." That's so disturbing. Poor Carson. I'm glad that her family will get SOME sort of closure.

kadrmas15
05-30-2006, 02:09 PM
The story of Carson Prince's murder was bad enough but if you saw the killers prison file picture it scared the hell out of me. This is easier to say now but the guy just looks like a total creep. This guy would have been caught much earlier, perhaps before he had an opportunity to murder the young couple but the eyewitnesses got his license plate number wrong. Also shortly after Carson Prince's murder he painted his truck in a different color. As for Brad Bishop, yes that is a bizarre one too and I am sure he is still on the run over in Europe somewhere. Wasnt that 10 years after the murders and after he disappeared that his former co-worker had a chance meeting with him in a stairwell or in a bathroom or something? I remember the co-worker looked at Brad and Brad had a beard and stuff but you could still recognize him and the co-worker said "Brad?" Brad looked up and looked right at him for a second and then ran off. I'm sure that was him.

Kane
05-30-2006, 03:07 PM
Wasnt that 10 years after the murders and after he disappeared that his former co-worker had a chance meeting with him in a stairwell or in a bathroom or something? I remember the co-worker looked at Brad and Brad had a beard and stuff but you could still recognize him and the co-worker said "Brad?" Brad looked up and looked right at him for a second and then ran off. I'm sure that was him.

Actually, the encounter was said to have occurred in 1979, three years after the murders. So it was still possible for the co-worker to have recognized Brad's face, even if Brad had grown a beard.

MickeyLover06
05-31-2006, 11:42 AM
Thanks for the updates! What a great idea Crystaldawn :)

crystaldawn
06-01-2006, 09:24 PM
Roxanne Jeeves and her 5 year old son Christopher Korpher were murdered on her son's 5th birthday. Many years later a suspect has been arrested.

http://20thcenturymurder.blogspot.com/2006/01/roxann-kristopher-jeeves-murder-122381.html

Holly Krewson was in her 20's when she disappeared. Her mother got a phone calls years after her disappearance that she thought was Holly's voice. Her remains were identified earlier this year.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060324-9999-2m24holly.html

Gretchen Burford was an attorney who was abducted while at an ATM machine and later stabbed to death. Several years later police have made an arrest:

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/weekly/morgue/2005/2005_06_29.digest29.shtml

Mickey and Trudy Thompson were gunned down in the driveway of their home. Years later a former business partner of Mickey's was accused of hiring two men to kill the couple:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20050307-1410-ca-racermurders.html

kadrmas15
06-01-2006, 10:44 PM
George Washington Hicks Jr is currently on temporary release in Texas because of a bench warrant issued for him in another county. I dont know if that means he has fled the area or what. I wouldnt be surprised since he was about to go down for a murder rap. Hicks is currently 55 years old and was sentenced to 80 years in prison on March 2nd, 1994 for a aggravated sexual assault that occured on January 11th, 1993. Hicks was due to become first eligible for parole on January 24th, 2008.

Tyrone Hamel is currently 40 years old. Hamel is also on temporary release on Texas for a bench warrant that was issued for him on the federal level. Hamel was sentenced to life in prison on June 22nd, 1989 for an aggravated sexual assault with a deadly weapon from an incident that occured on January 29th, 1988. Hamel was also sentenced to another 60 years in prison on October 17th, 1990 for another aggrevated sexual assault with a deadly weapon, this incident occured on January 20th, 1988. It must have been after these incidents that he murdered Gretchen. Hopefully the feds take him up on charges and he gets sentenced to death.

crystaldawn
06-03-2006, 09:49 AM
I must say that it sickens me if George Washington Hicks is a free man!

More updates:

Jerry Lee Bowen has been captured. Although Lifetime may have updated his case he did recently receive more prison time for various charges.

Here's his profile:
http://www.unsolved.com/0114-JerryBowen.html

Recent article:
http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=89195&section=localnews

Fred Russell has been captured. He went on the run after being accused of driving drunk resulting in an accident killing three people.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002581575_russell25m.html

Molly Bish was the 16 yr old lifeguard who vanished one day from where she was working. Her remains have been found:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/2258530/detail.html

Mia Zapata was an up and coming punk rock singer when she was murdered. Many years after the crime someone was arrested and convicted of her murder:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/166473_zapata26.html

Kimberly Pandelios was a model who disappeared while out on a modeling job one day. Her remains were found a year later. David Rademaker has been convicted of her murder:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=4039219

dynoguy88
06-03-2006, 01:43 PM
A case I was VERY happy to see solved...

Jesse James Hollwood was wanted for the 2000 murder of 15 year old Nick Markowitz. Hollywood was looking to kidnap Nick's older brother Ben for a drug payment but instead kidnapped Nick.

Hollywood was apprehended on March 9, 2005 in Brazil. He had been teaching English and living on $1,200.00 a month sent by his parents. At the time of his capture, a reward of around $50,000 was offered for information leading to his arrest.

NBC's Dateline, Lifetime's Unsolved Mysteries and Fox's America's Most Wanted have been covering this story extensively for the past five years.

kadrmas15
06-05-2006, 06:52 PM
Found Jerry Lee Bowen. Bowen is in prison like you said and is currently serving a life sentence at the Limestone Correctional Facility in Harvest, Alabama. Bowen is inmate No. 238713. I also found some info on Paul Hamwi. Hamwi was the Aspen, Colorado developer who was convicted in the early 90's of hiring a hitman to kill his wife in Florida although he was acquitted of any charges in the death of his infant daughter who was left in the home after her mother was murdered and the baby died of dehydration. Hamwi has aged a lot but I am including the link because Florida actually includes the mugshots with their inmate files. To this day Hamwi claims he is innocent and has had many appeals. Hamwi is serv

kadrmas15
06-05-2006, 07:00 PM
Whoops sorry, hit the post button early. Hamwi is serving a life sentence at the Union Correctional Institution in Raiford, Florida. Hamwi will be eligible for parole after serving 25 years meaning he would become eligible for parole around 2019 when Hamwi will be 74 years old. Here is a link to Hamwi's prison.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/Region2/213.html
Here is the link to the starting place where you can look up Hamwi.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/AppCommon/

LooksLikeCRicci
06-06-2006, 10:59 AM
We have got some MAJOR web sleuths on this site! Now I feel like I should get my Nancy Drew on....:)

I was sad to hear they found Molly Bish's remains, but very glad that Mia Zapata's killer was caught after 10 years. I saw a "City Confidential" on Seattle and they covered the Zapata murder, including the arrest of her murderer. DNA is simply amazing.

crystaldawn
06-06-2006, 01:43 PM
Janine Nicarico was a 10 year old girl who was raped and murdered while home sick from school in 1983. Two men were convicted and sentenced to death for her murder but a new murder confession helped lead them to being freed in the '90's. The confessed murderer Brian Dugan (who has been linked by dna to the crime) has finally been indicted for her murder:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20060222/ai_n16165261

Veronica Jefferson, Rachael Raver & Warren Fulton were all three profiled on UM. Rachael and Warren were sweethearts while Veronica was profiled on an early UM segment. After watching a rerun of the Jefferson segment Raver's mother noticed some similarities and further inquiries led to the shocking fact that the same killer had killed all three of them. A suspect has been named:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/27/AR2005092701730.html

WongStuff
06-06-2006, 07:48 PM
I think UM profiled the Night Stalker case. Anyway, guess who wants a new trial?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/06/night.stalker.ap/index.html

Kane
06-06-2006, 09:24 PM
I think UM profiled the Night Stalker case. Anyway, guess who wants a new trial?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/06/night.stalker.ap/index.html

There was an UM segment related to the Night Stalker. But it was about the man who disappeared without ever claiming his reward for helping the authorities nail the killer (who was identified as Richard Ramierz). That serial murder case was solved in 1985, two years before UM first went on the air. The segment aired in 1990.

LooksLikeCRicci
06-07-2006, 02:54 AM
Didn't they also profile Richard Ramierz in some segment about astrology and how the way their stars were aligned made them more likely to be a serial killer?

Ramierz wants a new trial? Crazy.

Kane
06-07-2006, 08:41 AM
Didn't they also profile Richard Ramierz in some segment about astrology and how the way their stars were aligned made them more likely to be a serial killer?

Yes. He was mentioned in that segment, too.

jscout
06-07-2006, 09:51 PM
Mays missing 20 years today; FBI close to ID?


By CHARLES WHISENANT - The Arab Tribune
Monday, May 15, 2006 2:44 PM CDT


Jim and Dot Mays on banks of Lake Guntersville in the 1980s
It was 20 years ago Saturday Wanda Mays was discovered missing. After all of the years of questions, the FBI could be close to determining whether a partial skull found two years ago is hers.

Wanda Mays disappeared from her aunt and uncle's house in Warrenton during the night of May 12 or early morning hours of May 13, 1986. The case has been featured twice on the network television series Unsolved Mysteries, and countless Marshall County sheriff and district attorney's investigators have worked the case, as have private investigators hired by Wanda's parents, Jim and Dot Mays of Arab.

"It's unbelievable," said Dot Mays, Wanda's mother. "It seems like it was only yesterday. I just can hardly believe it's been 20 years."

The most recent hope the family had for finding Wanda came in April 2004. That's when it was announced that a couple walking along a creek bed in Warrenton that January had found a skull near where Wanda came up missing.

Dot Mays gave DNA samples then that were compared to DNA extracted from the skull and bone fragments that were found. So far, FBI analysts have tested three DNA samples from the skull, compared them to Dot Mays' DNA, and have ruled out all other missing persons.

"Of all the family members of other missing persons that gave samples, so far I'm the only one they haven't ruled out (being a match on the skull)," Mays said. "That's not a positive match, but I'm the only one left in their data base that hasn't been ruled out."


In other words, she said, the FBI has ruled out all other missing persons except Wanda Mays. But, they haven't identified her, either.

"(The FBI) tells us they need four good DNA samples from the skull, and so far they have only been able to get three," she said. "I told them I didn't want a maybe. I want to know yes or no - is it Wanda? They haven't told us one way or the other what their tests have shown so far."

The FBI doesn't have Wanda's bloody nightgown that was found years ago near where she came up missing.

"The (Marshall County) sheriff's department lost it," Dot Mays said. "We don't know what happened to it."



The Mayses haven't heard from the FBI in about six months, but were told that they would get a call as soon as the fourth sample was found and tested.

"We don't know how long it will take to get the fourth sample, or if they can even get the fourth sample," Dot Mays said. "They said if they had a tooth, it would be easier, but they don't. They said it's very difficult to get good DNA samples from bone fragments.

Earlier reports indicated that investigators believe the skull belonged to a female between 30 and 50 years old.

"Wanda was 26 when she disappeared," Mays said.

The Mayses haven't given up hope of finding their daughter alive. They have traveled the country following up on tips and looking for their daughter.

"It's been 20 years, but I will never give up," Mays said, though admitting that she has "weakened a little" at the realistic chances.

"Where the skull was found was close to where she came up missing has weakened me a little," she said. "Plus the fact that (the FBI) has ruled out other people, but not Wanda. That has weighed heavily on me."

That the FBI hasn't ruled out the skull being Wanda's is the main reason she's not so sure that Wanda is alive.

"My son told me that if Wanda was alive, she would find a way to let us know," she continued. "I'll never give up hope that she's alive, but I know that if she isn't alive that she is with the Lord."

Time doesn't ease pain

For the first few years after Wanda was discovered missing, Mays cried a lot.

"It's just really hard for a parent to accept that something has happened to their daughter," she said. "But after a while you get to where … the ache is always there, but it doesn't manifest itself to the degree of crying all the time or getting upset all the time."

Mays hopes people never forget Wanda.

"I want people to always keep her in mind," she said. "We have friends that tell us when they travel, they still look for Wanda. We do, too - everywhere we go."

In the 20 years they've been looking for Wanda, the Mayses have traveled to Florida, North Carolina, Montana, Tennessee and other states looking for her.

"We got a lot of calls from people saying they thought they saw Wanda, and we'd go there," Mays said. "We don't get calls anymore. I guess it's been too long."

Mays said she and Jim don't dwell on it any more.

"The Lord has given me a lot of piece," she said. "We miss Wanda all the time. We always will. I hope no one ever has to go through what we have. It's hard not to think of her, and, at the same time, it is hard to think of her, because we just don't know anything (about what happened)."

To know - or not

Some of the talk about Wanda still bothers Mays.

"When people say, 'I hope (the skull) is her so you can have closure,' I think how dumb that is," she said. "I have never felt like I wanted closure. I want the feeling that she is still out there and that one day she will return home.

"I guess I have mixed emotions," she continued. "Part of me wants to know what happened to her, and part of me doesn't want to know. I really don't want (the skull) to be Wanda, because, if it's not, then there is still hope that she's alive."

If DNA testing on the skull confirms that the person is from the Mays family, that will be a good enough answer for Jim Mays.

"He said that would tell him that it is Wanda," Dot Mays said in an earlier interview. "They might not be able to say it definitely is her, but if the tests show it's from my family, that will be good enough."

And, while they are hopeful the tests might reveal some answers about their missing daughter, they also realize that, if it is Wanda, the find will only lead to questions of what happened to her.

The skull was found about 1.9 miles from Marshall County Park Number 2, or as Jim Mays said, about 300 yards as the crow flies from the house where Wanda was last seen.

Mays said she would never give up hope.

"That's the main thing I want people to know," she said. "We haven't given up. We love her, and we miss her, but we haven't given up. She's our baby. It's hard to think of not getting her back - but if she's not here, then she's with God, and we will be with her again some day."

WongStuff
06-08-2006, 01:13 AM
Didn't they also profile Richard Ramierz in some segment about astrology and how the way their stars were aligned made them more likely to be a serial killer?

Ramierz wants a new trial? Crazy.

Hard to believe, but yes, he wants a new trial.

kadrmas15
06-08-2006, 03:09 AM
Ramirez wants a new trial? You would think his appeals are all run out. Ramirez was sentenced to death in 1988 I believe. Ramirez I am sure is within 5 years of being executed. Still gets tons of mail on death row.

kadrmas15
06-08-2006, 04:37 AM
I'm thinking of starting a little morbid project. I actually wanted advice. The project would involve me trying to figure out the mind of some of these creeps. Actually write to them in prison. Ask why they took part in it the things they did, what their lives were like before this stuff happened, things like that. Any advice?

crystaldawn
06-08-2006, 10:08 AM
I'm thinking of starting a little morbid project. I actually wanted advice. The project would involve me trying to figure out the mind of some of these creeps. Actually write to them in prison. Ask why they took part in it the things they did, what their lives were like before this stuff happened, things like that. Any advice?

Do you mean possibly use the information to write a book or something or just for your own curiousity? I think it sounds like an okay idea just be careful and I would DEFINITELY use a different address than you live at. Like one of a business or even a PO box just in case. Be sure and let us know if you do and what they say. :)

LooksLikeCRicci
06-08-2006, 10:58 AM
ATTN: KADRMAS15-- You might want to read a book called "The Last Victim," by Jason Moss. He was a criminology or psychology student at the University of Nevada who undertook a project similar to what you're talking about. He started by writing letters to John Wayne Gacy and expanded to other serial killers, including Richard Ramierez, Charles Manson, and Jeffrey Dahmer. His methods were actually pretty ingenious-- he studied the serial killers and their victims of choice, and then modeled his letters after those types of people. However, I'd echo Crystaldawn's warning. BE CAREFUL. The author talks about how Gacy used to call him collect at his home, and Ramierez sent him some MESSED UP drawings. I want to say that Moss himself even admitted that the project wasn't the best idea in the end. I own the book, but it's been FOREVER since I read it (I read it when the book came out in hardback-- I wanna say 1999.)

Here's a link to the book at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446608270/104-4937743-9763952?v=glance&n=283155). Apparently, the author is a lawyer now. :)

kadrmas15
06-09-2006, 05:57 AM
Yes, I have heard of Jason Moss before. Scary stuff indeed. Especially Gacy. Moss not only talked to him on the phone but actually went to meet him in prison on two different occassions. Moss got several correspondence back from Dahmer, Manson and Ramirez. Ramirez I believe even encouraged him to worship Satan. Although Moss's closest relationship was with Gacy. Moss was actually playing a pretty dangerous cat and mouse game with Gacy. Supposedly Gacy acted completely different until he actually met Moss. Gacy at first denied he murdered anyone and then when Moss actually met him he got Gacy to admit he killed them. Gacy did some lewd acts right in front of Moss and he bribed the guard to leave him alone with Moss. The only thing keeping Gacy from attacking Moss was a pair of loose handcuffs. Moss met Gacy just a month or two before he was executed. So scary. I probably wont start this project until I move in January and I can get a post office box. I probably will write to 4 or 5 people. Anyone have any suggestions as to whom I should write to? I appreciate the advice you all have already given me. I have actually thought about writing to Richard Ramirez and Charles Manson but havent done so yet. Scott Peterson was another one.

LooksLikeCRicci
06-09-2006, 11:00 AM
OMG, Scott Peterson would be so interesting! I'm like you, in the sense that I've toyed with the idea of writing to inmates. Peterson was at the top of my list. The Menendez brothers would be interesting (anyone remember them?--lol) Then there's always Ted the Unabomber (I can't spell his last name...) :)

kadrmas15
06-09-2006, 11:18 AM
Yes, the Menendez brothers. I think Ted's name is spelled Kaczynski or Kazynski. I could be wrong on both attempts at spelling it. Yeah, some of these guys I would consider writing to but some others are too out there for me. Guys like Gacy and Dahmer would be too far out there if they were still alive. Ramirez is pretty out there too. What about Joel Rifkin? Who else? The Green River Killer, Robert Yates. I honestly dont know who is all out there to right to. I dont know what it is about Rifkin. Rifkin killed 18 women I believe but he doesnt seem as scary as Ramirez. Ramirez killed around 25 total I think. Dont get me wrong I wouldnt want to be in a room with Rifkin or Ramirez. When I was in high school in Psychology class we watched a report on Joel Rifkin. I remember Rifkin's excuse for killing was "my brain made me do it." That is actually what he said. I think they were studying the connection between being having dyslexia and being a serial killer. Rifkin claimed his father's death had something to do with him starting to kill women. Rifkin never killed until the 2nd anniversary of his fathers death in 1989. Rifkin was 30 years old when he started killing. Older than usual. Although I believe Gacy was in his mid to late 30's before he started killing. Any other ideas on who to write to?

kadrmas15
06-09-2006, 11:25 AM
Although some guys were quite young when they started up. Dahmer I believe was 18 or 19. Ramirez was in his early 20's when he started. Though what got Ramirez interested in killing was when he was 12 years old his cousin shot his wife to death right in front of him. Some people also blame Ramirez's problems on the fact that he has epilpsey. Robert Yates was in his early 20's when he started killing. Yates actually didnt start out killing prostitutes at all. His first victims? A young couple that was around the same age as him that was picnicing in a park. Yates actually worked for the Washington Department of Corrections at the time as a prison guard. The Menendez brothers were 21 and 18 at the time they killed their parents. I've read about their parents. It does seem by a lot of accounts their father was a jerk and was overly hard on and at times downright abusive to the boys. However he didnt deserve what happened to him.

Beetlejuice69
06-09-2006, 02:51 PM
Although some guys were quite young when they started up. Dahmer I believe was 18 or 19.

The hitchhiker was Dahmer's first, right?

kadrmas15
06-10-2006, 02:41 AM
Yeah, if I remember right from my readings about Dahmer his first human kill was in 1978 when he was 18. I think it was either shortly before or shortly after Dahmer graduated from high school. Dahmer was driving and picked up a hitchhiker. Dahmer brought him back to his house and they got drunk and engaged in sexual conduct. When the hitchhiker tried to leave though Dahmer like freaked out and killed him. Dahmer ended up going to college and was even in the army for a couple of years. Dahmer flunked out of Ohio State University after 1 year. During the early to mid 80's Dahmer was in the Army and served in Germany for some of that time and was actually thought to have committed murders over there too. Dahmer received a medical discharge in 1985 or 1986 due to alcoholism. Dahmer actually said that he would go two or three years without killing and without even really having a desire to kill and then all of a sudden it would just come back. I think he got addicted to the feeling though because the last year or so he was out it got to the point to where he was killing once a month and sometimes even more than that. I think the last month or two he was killing he was sometimes killing as many as one person a week.

Kane
06-15-2006, 07:14 PM
Danny Paquette: In November 1985, he was shot to death while welding. Eric Windhurst was arrested and charged with the murder this past December. His trial is scheduled to begin on August 28.

As discussed in the UM segment, there was a theory that Danny's murder was connected to the death of his mother, Rena Paquette. In 1964, Rena was found burned to death at her New Hampshire reisdence. She was believed to have been killed because she had information regarding the murder of a teenage girl named Pamela Mason. (The man who was convicted of killing Pamela was later released on a technicality.)

Kane
06-16-2006, 01:18 PM
Agustin Vasquez Mendoza: He was wanted for the 1994 murder of Richard Fass, an undercover agent. He was caught in Mexico, and is on trial for the murder. He is accused of masterminding the killing, but his half-brother, Juan Rubio Vasquez, is serving a life sentence for firing the fatal shots.

The UM segment aired on NBC during the 1996-97 season.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0609deaagent0609.html

kadrmas15
06-16-2006, 03:27 PM
Well the Paul Stamper case was on today. Remember he was the guy that attempted to kill his soon to be ex wife's boyfriend. Stamper used a flashing light similar to what a cop would have and put it on his car and used it to pull over his wife and her boyfriend. Stamper fired into the car and one of the bullets ruptured a lot of the boyfriends organs including his heart but he somehow survived. Stamper got off lucky. Well I found his prison file. Paul E. Stamper inmate No. 145521. If you go to the Oklahoma Department of Corrections website and then go into public information you can go into offender search and look this up. It has his mugshots and stuff. It looks like he was released from prison on January 23rd, 2002 after serving just under 10 years of a 30 year sentence. Stamper is currently on probation. Stamper also goes by the alias Gary Wikel. Stamper was born on October 24th, 1955. Stamper is currently on 25 years probation. Stamper will be off probation when his sentence for the crimes expires on April 21st, 2027.

kadrmas15
06-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Stamper got off easy. You must remember that he pled guilty so he obviously got a plea bargain. Pretty good one it looks like too. Stamper is just lucky that guy he shot didnt die. You must also remember that although he didnt pled guilty until 1992 he was also sentenced according to 1985 sentencing guidelines. It wasnt until the early to mid 1990's that a lot of states got way tougher on their sentencing guidelines.

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-16-2006, 10:44 PM
Unexplained Death: Ashley Freeman's parents are killed in a trailer fire and now Ashley and her friend Lauria Bible have disappeared. Investigators believe the girls may have been responsible for the fire. (Aired: July 3, 2001)

Is there any updates on this case todaY?

Bazorro
06-18-2006, 04:32 PM
write to the BTK killer

Kane
06-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Unexplained Death: Ashley Freeman's parents are killed in a trailer fire and now Ashley and her friend Lauria Bible have disappeared. Investigators believe the girls may have been responsible for the fire. (Aired: July 3, 2001)

Is there any updates on this case todaY?

The latest is that a serial killer named Jeremy Bryan Jones claimed to have killed Ashley and Lauria, and disposed of their bodies in a mine shaft. Last year, a search was done in the shaft where Jones claimed to have dumped the bodies, but no trace of them were found.

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-19-2006, 12:00 AM
write to the BTK killer
The latest is that a serial killer named Jeremy Bryan Jones claimed to have killed Ashley and Lauria, and disposed of their bodies in a mine shaft. Last year, a search was done in the shaft where Jones claimed to have dumped the bodies, but no trace of them were found. KANE:

Wait Kane was that the BTK killer?? Also thanks for the info, I just don't see why he would've killed them.

My 300th Post!

Dislimb
06-19-2006, 04:17 AM
Quadruple Murder in Oklahoma: In early 2005, Deputies from Craig County Sheriff's office interviewed Jones in Alabama about a December 30, 1999 murder that occurred in Welch, Oklahoma. Danny and Kathy Freeman were found shot to death and the trailer they lived in was set on fire. The Freeman's 16-year-old daughter, Ashley Freeman and her 16-year-old friend, Laurie Bible, were not found in the home and the two have never been seen again.

Another Confession: Jones confessed to Sheriff Jimmie Sooter that he killed the Freeman couple and that the teenaged girls ran out of the home and into Jones' truck. He drove them to Kansas where he allegedly killed them and disposed of their bodies. Based on information given to the detectives, a large search of mining pits and sinkholes was conducted but nothing was found. Jones has not been charged in the Freeman case.

Source:

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/jeremyjones2.htm

Kane
06-19-2006, 08:50 AM
The latest is that a serial killer named Jeremy Bryan Jones claimed to have killed Ashley and Lauria, and disposed of their bodies in a mine shaft. Last year, a search was done in the shaft where Jones claimed to have dumped the bodies, but no trace of them were found. KANE:

Wait Kane was that the BTK killer?? Also thanks for the info, I just don't see why he would've killed them.

You're welcome.

If I correctly understood your question, the answer is no. Jeremy Jones wasn't the BTK killer. Dennis Rader was.

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-19-2006, 12:38 PM
So Denis Rader A.K.A(BTK Killer) killed the two girls? Thats horrible!

Kane
06-19-2006, 01:41 PM
So Denis Rader A.K.A(BTK Killer) killed the two girls? Thats horrible!

I think you misunderstood me. When you asked me the BTK question, I thought you meant if Jeremy Jones was the BTK killer, which he isn't. In my response, I said that Dennis Rader was the BTK killer.

The circumstances surrounding the disappearances of Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible, as well as the murders of Ashley's parents, are less than consistent with the pattern BTK's past crimes. So it's very doubtful that Rader was involved in that case.

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-19-2006, 02:26 PM
Thanks Kane for info! Also I was wondering is First Look Media & First Look Studios the same thing? If so First Look Studios is releasing "Baywatch Seasons 1&2" in October. I bet these will sell good, compared to Unsloved Mysteries.

Kane
06-19-2006, 03:18 PM
Thanks Kane for info! Also I was wondering is First Look Media & First Look Studios the same thing?

You're welcome.

First Look Media and First Look Studios are associated with each other. So, they are pretty much the same.

In case you're looking for the web site, here it is:

http://www.flp.com

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Thanks for the info Kane. Well, It looks like they'll have one #1 selling DVDs soon. I know Baywatch will sell good. I really hope they will make more DVDs. I hope they do.ALSO does Fist Look Media have an e-mail address? I'd like to e-mail them about Unsloved mysteries. I tried sending them a letter along time ago, and they never responded.

Kane
06-19-2006, 06:11 PM
ALSO does Fist Look Media have an e-mail address? I'd like to e-mail them about Unsloved mysteries. I tried sending them a letter along time ago, and they never responded.

The email address should be listed at their web site.

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-19-2006, 11:33 PM
I found it. I e-mailed them about more Unsloved Mysteries. Once I get an e-mail back from them I'll post what they said. ALSO if anyone wants to contact First Look Media by phone here is there phone number 323-337-1000

skunk ape
06-20-2006, 12:47 AM
Are there any updates on the Dottie Caylor and the Linda Sherman cases?

DarkDante
06-20-2006, 02:06 AM
Dottie Caylor is still listed as a missing person. Jule Caylor is still regarded as a "person of interest in the case and if you scroll down the page a bit the police have recently stepped up their effort in order to find out just what happened to Dottie. They have "declassified" a anonymous letter sent to them in the late 80s giving very specific details on how Dottie was murdered although it is crucial to state that there is no hard evidence at this time that Dottie WAS MURDERED.

kadrmas15
06-20-2006, 03:10 PM
Michael Swango case was on today. I swear that one is on a lot but I never get tired of watching it for some reason. Talk about creepy. The man was able to talk his way into doctor's and jobs. They actually have a pretty good, in-depth profile of him at www.crimelibrary.com Swango is also currently in prison where he belongs. Swango is now in federal prison. Swango served around three years in prison in New York state and before his sentence could expire on that the feds filed charges against him. Swango pled guilty to several charges and was given a sentence of life without parole in federal prison. Michael Swango is currently 51 years old and turns 52 later this year. Swango is inmate no. 08352-424 and is currently serving his time in the maximum security wing of the federal prison in Florence, Colorado. Swango is in the same prison with the likes of the Unabomber, Shoebomber Richard Reid, 9/11 conspirator Zacahrais Moussai and the man who helped Tim McVeigh with the Oklahoma City bombing Terry Nichols.

LooksLikeCRicci
06-20-2006, 05:35 PM
that's fantastic. Michael Swango is a piece of crap. I'm glad he's in jail where he belongs. What sickens me is that even though all sorts of people had suspicions about Swango, they continued to let him continue on his track to become a doctor.

That just ain't right.

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-21-2006, 03:16 PM
On today's episode there was that case were that Doctor Frank who rapped people by drugging them. I was wondering is this story on any of the DVDs?

kadrmas15
06-21-2006, 03:42 PM
Well what is ironic about Swango is that he could dish out death and loved to see death but ironically couldnt handle a lethal injection himself. Swango was looking at the death penalty and he took a plea bargain where he would be plead guilty and in exchange the government wouldnt seek the death penalty. What a coward. There were red flags popping up on this guy for years. This guy got kicked out of basically every hospital he ever worked for. I heard his girlfriend or wife (I cant remember if they got married) killed herself in the early 90's because she felt such guilt that she didnt find out what he was doing and keep him from killing patients. She met him at the University of South Dakota hospital. What it was with him and killing I will never really know. I think he enjoyed playing God or something. Pushing people to the brink and maybe they will live and maybe they will die. How he always had the creepy smile on his face. Remember when Robert Stack said "Swango brought in what he called extra spicy chicken" or "Swango brought in what he called his special donoughts." This is easier for me to say now but that guy gave me the creeps I just wouldnt have ate or drank anything he brought in. Didnt he like poision people's soda's too or something? I remember that one of the guy's that worked on the ambulance crew with Swango said after the donought incident that him and Swango were working together at a football game a few weeks later and Swango went to go get himself a soda and offered to get the other guy one. The other guy had some doubts but decided to get it anyway and so he told Swango to get him one. The guy started drinking his soda at halftime and he said by the end of the third quarter he was extremely sick.

LooksLikeCRicci
06-21-2006, 04:46 PM
Yeah, because of the Swango case I steer clear of the "extra spicy chicken" or "special doughnuts." :eek:

skunk ape
06-21-2006, 07:23 PM
So is there any updates on the Linda Sherman case?

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-23-2006, 02:57 PM
On today's episode there was that girl who disarreared from the cruise-ship. Is there any updates on this case?

Kane
06-23-2006, 06:11 PM
On today's episode there was that girl who disarreared from the cruise-ship. Is there any updates on this case?

None, except that Amy Bradley's disappearance has been mentioned in some articles related to Natalie Holloway's disappearance. One such article can be found at the link below.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8143921/

GoldenGirlsFan92
06-23-2006, 08:43 PM
Thanks for the info Kane.

Kane
06-25-2006, 09:59 PM
Alexander Olive: He was the little boy who disappeared in during the mid-1980s. (The UM segment aired during the 1992-93 season.) His father Ulysess Roberson was part of a cult-like atmosphere, and has been a suspect in Alexander's disappearance. Although Alexander has never been found, new evidence suggests that he was murdered.

Here's a recent article:

http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/article/20060622/NEWS/106220048

And here's a missing persons profile of Alexander.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/olive_alexander.html

LooksLikeCRicci
06-26-2006, 10:51 AM
Wow. Thanks for the article, Kane. Stories like this sicken me. I can't believe that parents are capable of doing such brutal things to their own children.

GoldenGirlsFan92
07-05-2006, 02:42 PM
I found it. I e-mailed them about more Unsloved Mysteries. Once I get an e-mail back from them I'll post what they said. ALSO if anyone wants to contact First Look Media by phone here is there phone number 323-337-1000

I was curious has anyone ever e-mailed First Look Media & gotten a response, because they have never responded?

crystaldawn
07-06-2006, 05:36 PM
In response to GoldenGirlsFan92's question I've gotten a few email responses from a guy at First Look Media and he's the one who gave me the list that was going to be on the "Best of" set and the Ultimate Collection. Thats been a while ago though.

Another update I wanted to mention was that of the missing college student profiled named Wil Hendrick. His remains were eventually found but as far as I know no arrests have been made. Here's an article:

http://www2.state.id.us/crimevictim/news/news.cfm?category=7&chapter=67&article=422

GoldenGirlsFan92
07-06-2006, 10:42 PM
[QUOTE=crystaldawn]In response to GoldenGirlsFan92's question I've gotten a few email responses from a guy at First Look Media and he's the one who gave me the list that was going to be on the "Best of" set and the Ultimate Collection. Thats been a while ago though.
Well, I wonder why they have never gave me a responce?!

LooksLikeCRicci
07-07-2006, 11:11 AM
Another update I wanted to mention was that of the missing college student profiled named Wil Hendrick. His remains were eventually found but as far as I know no arrests have been made. Here's an article:

http://www2.state.id.us/crimevictim/news/news.cfm?category=7&chapter=67&article=422


I remember this story. Didn't they initially think that he may have been the victim of a hate crime? In any case, I'm glad his family finally found him, albeit not alive.

crystaldawn
07-07-2006, 11:32 AM
Well, I wonder why they have never gave me a responce?!

I did mention that I was the moderator of a UM board and the posters were curious to know which segments would be on there so he probably responded to my email in hopes of drumming more business for the UM dvds from First Look.

Another update was Pat Carlton. She was the young mother who suffered an aneurysm and after surgery developed amnesia. She married Troy Carlton and in the next few years kept wandering off until one day she never returned. About 35 years later believe it or not she was found and reunited with her sister! I would love to find out more info on what she had been doing while she was missing and how the reunion went but haven't been able to find out much on the net.

Gangreen
07-07-2006, 10:51 PM
dunno if this was posted already

you know, Angel Maturino Resendiz was executed last week. He committed his killings near railroad tracks; this earned him the nickname "The Railroad Killer." Of all the people he confessed to killing, Wendy Von Huben was one of them.

She was the teenager who went on a trip with her companion Jesse Howell in 1997. Soon afterwards, Jesse was found murdered near some railroad tracks, and Wendy vanished.

The case was the subject of an Unsolved Mysteries segment that aired on CBS in 1998. In the segment, they showed actual surveillance camera footage of a young woman at a store. Although the footage was grainy, there was the belief that the unidentified woman was Wendy Von Huben.

But Wendy remained missing until July of 2000, when Resendiz led the authorities to her remains. He confessed to killing both Wendy and Jesse.

skunk ape
07-08-2006, 12:30 AM
Where did the Wendy Von Huben murder occur?

Kane
07-10-2006, 12:01 PM
Where did the Wendy Von Huben murder occur?

Florida. That's where her remains were found.

angel25
07-10-2006, 07:55 PM
Are there anymore updates on the Ashley Freeman and Laura Bible case? I had already heard that someone was arrested, and that he claimed the bodys were found in a mine place, but the bodys were never found. Is there anything else that happened? Have they come any closer to finding the girls bodys?

Kane
07-10-2006, 09:28 PM
Are there anymore updates on the Ashley Freeman and Laura Bible case? I had already heard that someone was arrested, and that he claimed the bodys were found in a mine place, but the bodys were never found. Is there anything else that happened? Have they come any closer to finding the girls bodys?

There's been little (if any) progress beyond what you described. In fact, Lauria and Ashley still have their respective missing profiles active. So they are still officially listed as missing. :(

Lauria Bible's profile:

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/bible.htm

Ashley Freeman's profile:

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/freeman.htm

kadrmas15
07-10-2006, 10:28 PM
Hey, thanks for the links Kane even though someone else asked for them. But on that case I still think the Sheriff and Sheriff's department know more than what they are saying. I think they may even be behind it. It wasnt a secret that Danny Freeman and the Sheriff and a couple of his deputies had a well known feud in that area. As you all know it started in 1997 or 1998 when Danny Freeman's son was shot to death by a Sheriff's deputy after his son had stole a car. Personally I think the sheriff ordered it and I think at least two of his deputies carried it out. I dont think there was a third party involved because of the risk of someone snitching. I have a hard time believing those girls are still alive but you never know. Until their bodies are found it has to be assumed they are still alive. The only other chilling scenario would be if the girls killed Ashley's parents and then set the residence on fire to cover up the crime. It is obvious whoever did this killed the parents and then set the place on fire to cover it up. Then if it was the sheriff's department they took the girls to a seperate location where they were probably raped and then murdered and then their bodies buried. If it was the girls that did it, well they are still on the run somewhere then.

kadrmas15
07-19-2006, 03:06 PM
Hey, well I looked up Randall Utterback and found that this guy is still on the run! He is one of Missouri's most wanted. I honestly cant believe he has been on the run for over 10 years now. I think his parents are supporting him but that is just me. This guy has some mental issues, obviously he wasnt popular with the ladies. For him to be 31 and dating an 18 year old. This guy is crazy but not stupid. I bet he is in a completley different part of that country doing this same crap to someone else. Here are two links I found on him:

http://www.missourinet.com/wanted/fugitives/utterback_randall.htm

http://members.socket.net/~audrainsheriff/audrain/utterback.html

kadrmas15
07-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Also tracked down other people that were profiled on today's UM. Carl McWilliams thankfully was tracked down and arrested. McWilliams is in prison in Pennsylvania. It didnt have a release date on him but he will be released eventually: McWilliams is currently 56 years old and is currently serving his time at the Pennsylvania State Correctional Institution at Greensburg, Pennsylvania. McWilliams was born August 2nd, 1949.

I found a couple of the people involved in Kyle McElroy's murder. His so called friend and fellow co-worker Daniel Rios he can sure kill people but then when it comes time for him to be killed of course he doesnt want any part of it. Rios pled guilty to murder and in exchange was given life with the possiblity of parole. Apperantly he wasnt the person who choked Kyle to death. Rios is currently 30 years old and is currently incarcierated at the Robertson Unit in Abilene, Texas. Rios will become eligible for parole on March 31st, 2030. Rios was sentenced on July 13th, 2001.

Alfredo Romero was another man that was charged with helping to Organize the murder. Romero was found guilty and was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Romero was sentenced on June 27th, 2001 he became eligible for parole on July 2nd, 2003 but has been denied so far when he was up for it. Romero's sentence expires on March 11th, 2030 but he is due to be released on July 1st, 2012 if he is not paroled before that time. Romero is currently at the Torres Unit. Romero is currently 30 years old.

crystaldawn
07-21-2006, 10:53 AM
Apparently they're seeking the death penalty in the murder of Dorothy Donovan. Wasn't sure if that info had already been posted or not:

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2006/07/18/dm/sussex_county/dsn04.txt

kadrmas15
07-21-2006, 03:03 PM
William Jordan is still on the run, here is a wanted poster on him from the good folks at the FBI.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/vc/murders/jordan_wj.htm

kadrmas15
08-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Well an update on a couple of guys profiled on todays UM. John Mooney is still in prison in Georgia, as seen in the update, he escaped from prison in 1980 but was captured in Arizona in 1989 after being profiled on UM. Mooney is still in prison but I believe under Georgia Law at the time he was sentenced he has become eligible for parole recently but was denied. In terms of Newton Winn, I checked up on him and he is still alive. Winn is now 82 years old and was sentenced to 19 years and 4 months in prison for various crimes. Newton Winn did his time in Federal Prison and he was actually just released from prison on April 3rd of this year.

wiseguy182
08-08-2006, 03:36 AM
Well this might not be exactly a "new update", but since the Tony Alamo case has never been run on Lifetime to my knowledge, and that a search of the boards didn't come up with anything about his capture, I will mention the following as it might be news to a lot of posters. Alamo was captured in 1994 and served a six year sentence, and afterwards went to a halfway house. Alamo appears to have resumed his practice, although I can't imagine that he has as large a following as he did before the scandals broke. Alamo was a televangelist/singer/clothes designer who was later wanted on charges of tax evasion/child abuse and threatening a judge. The segment stated that it was believed somebody might have been helping Alamo hideout as there was speculations that he lost his vision, but I couldn't find anything relating to that. Below is a link to the article. I should note that the website (wikipedia) has put up some sort of disclaimer, saying that the neutrality of the article has been disputed by someone(s) rather. Apparently, there are some nuts out there who still think Tony Alamo is a great person. Here is the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Alamo

P.S., the above web page also has some external links that you can look at if you so desire. Among them is a message board where some of they people that were former members of his following talk about the abuse they suffered. (He was responsible for child abuse, and made his followers produce his clothes that he designed under sweatshop-like conditions.)

crystaldawn
08-08-2006, 09:32 AM
Yes a friend from the board recently sent me some current newsletters by Tony Alamo and his church they came across. I was shocked that he is still preaching and even more shocked that he actually has followers!! Maybe we should show them the UM segment on him.

wiseguy182
08-08-2006, 03:10 PM
How distressing it is to learn that Alamo still has followers. I recall one guy from the segment who turned to Alamo becuase he wanted to turn his life around. And then Alamo did the stuff that he did. That's one of the most discouraging apsects of the case. I think a lot of Alamo's followers are troubled indviduals who looked to him for guidance, and then end up getting brainwashed. How sad.

I wonder if any of his record albums are out there floating around somewhere.

kadrmas15
08-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Well this case was on today, just horrible. Richard Bare is still on the run. 21 years on the run now just unbelievable. Just horrible what he did to that young woman pistol whipping her and then throwing her off a 1,200 foot high cliff all because he was pissed because she didnt respond to his sexual advances. Here is the wanted file on this scumbag from the North Carolina bureau of Investigation.
http://www.ncsbi.gov/crime/crime_mostwanteddetail.jsp?mostwantedid=9

The FBI file:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/vc/murders/bare_rl.htm

A local news story on it:
http://www.officer.com/news/IBS/wncn/news-2012500.html

His AMW profile:
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=24635

What is ironic is if you read about him in his AMW profile you find that he doesnt like cigarette smoking and doesnt like being around people who do. Yet in the UM segment it showed the actor portraying him smoking.

Kane
08-14-2006, 07:04 PM
Here's another UM case that has been updated:

Bill Henderson. He was the Texas man who was found beaten and strangled to death in his Texas home in 1991. A composite drawing of the suspect depicted him sporting numerous small ponytails. Lawrence Tutt, convicted of an unrelated murder, has been linked to Henderson's murder through DNA.

Go to the following link for more details.

http://newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--arsonmurder0804aug04,0,1314459.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

skunk ape
08-14-2006, 11:58 PM
I am so glad that they caught that animal Lawrence Tutt. I'll bet that he is responsible for more murders than he is known to have committed. Just the sheer brutality of Bill Henderson's murder leads me to suggest that. I'm guessing they got a match through CODIS that linked Tutt to Henderson's murder, but maybe other bodies of victims attributed to Tutt haven't been found yet.

Also, where can I find the composite drawing that the two hitchhikers came up with that had the braids? Does anyone have the link?

Kane
08-21-2006, 01:24 PM
Danny Paquette: In November 1985, he was shot to death while welding. Eric Windhurst was arrested and charged with the murder this past December. His trial is scheduled to begin on August 28.

As discussed in the UM segment, there was a theory that Danny's murder was connected to the death of his mother, Rena Paquette. In 1964, Rena was found burned to death at her New Hampshire reisdence. She was believed to have been killed because she had information regarding the murder of a teenage girl named Pamela Mason. (The man who was convicted of killing Pamela was later released on a technicality.)

Eric Windhurst has pled guilty to Danny Paquette's murder in the second degree. He could spend anywhere between 15 to 36 years in prison. Understandably, Windhurst's guilty plea to second-degree murder doesn't sit well with Danny's brother, Victor Paquette.

http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_233105858.html

wiseguy182
09-10-2006, 03:41 AM
Not sure how much of an update this is, but I just thought I would pass this along. I did a little checking places, and would you believe Kevin Snyder and Bean Baxter are STILL employed at KROQ in Los Angeles, CA?! That's just wrong. Those 2 should have been fired about 15 years ago when their hoax was revealed, and shouldn't be able to work in radio again. All they got was a five day suspension. The way they played with so many people's emotions is just wrong. I was even more depressed to learn that they get a lot of celebrities on their show. I wonder if those celebrities are aware of what happened.

In the original UM segment, Snyder said that, when asked point blank if it was a hoax, "There are certain lines you just don't cross." I thought "you lowlife, you knew all along it wasn't true."

A check of their profile on wikipedia reveals that they've had other lawsuits/controversies. They issued a crank call to French President Jacques Shirac, who actually came on the phone at one point, they've been slapped with at least a few different lawsuits that alleged wrongful termniation of an employee due to religious and racial discrimination and failure to deliver a prize (an SUV) that was won. They've also told listeners about concerts that never existed and many people scrambled to find where they were only to learn it wasn't true.

For those of you who might be unfamiliar with the segment, Snyder and Baxter conspired with another dj (a Doug Roberts in Phoenix, AZ, who sadly enough, later found employment with KROQ) to hoax a confession on air. Roberts stated that he murdered his girlfriend. The whole thing was a publicity stunt.

I have no idea how they thought they were going to get away with that. Since many people have heard Dick Roberts voice, and that Phoenix is in a state that neighbors LA's state, one would figure somone would recognize his voice, particluarly since there are so many people in L.A., unless Roberts disguised his voice.

Oy vey.

cuba_libre
09-11-2006, 10:14 AM
That above case with the radio DJs was one of the tackiest I've seen on UM. Murderers, molesters, criminals are just disgusting! But the DJS lying about a murder was simply TACKY! And then to go so far as to appear on national TV to bolster a non-existant case was over the top. Their punishment was less than a slap on the wrist, sadly....

HyeTev
09-13-2006, 04:46 PM
I've been away for a while... lots of catching up to do. :)

Are there any updates to the Stanley Gryziec murder and the San Angelo double murder (Shane and Sally)?

bell83
10-05-2006, 10:29 PM
Are there any new leads or any info at all on the case of Dick Hansen, the guy who was murdered by an unknown person who was trailing him and his date? The police believed that it may have had something to do with her license plate, which said "49er Hugs", because the guy pointed to the back of her car before shooting Hansen.

wiseguy182
10-06-2006, 06:31 PM
Are there any new leads or any info at all on the case of Dick Hansen, the guy who was murdered by an unknown person who was trailing him and his date? The police believed that it may have had something to do with her license plate, which said "49er Hugs", because the guy pointed to the back of her car before shooting Hansen.

There were no updates as of the last airing of this segment, which would have been about 3 or 4 months ago.

dynoguy88
10-07-2006, 12:17 PM
For those that didn't already read my "Orange socks killings" post, there has been an update to the murders of Bobbie Oberholzter and Annette Kay Schnee who were both murdered seperately hitchiking home on a bitter cold night in Breckenridge, Colorado on January 6, 1982.

The new TV show "Sensing Murder" aired last week where police interviewed two of the world's most respected psychics on this case. It was very interesting and gave a few more clues and took police to a whole new crime scene for Annette where they believe she was actually raped and killed. They said that both women were murder by a different man but both of the killers were friends and BOTH were present when Annette was killed. They also came up with the same names of the killers. They couldn't be mentioned on television yet since the investigation is still going in.

UPDATE - Since this episode was taped, police have indentified two men with the same name mentioned by the psychics and are actively pursuing these leads. They have also tracked down the man who owned the make of car one of the killers was driving which was mentioned by one of the psychics. This person bought a gun just two weeks before the murders and ended up dying several years later in an attempted bank robbery. Investigators have not yet tested for DNA (to match the blood found on Bobbie's glove) so at the moment, the case is still open. But they will update us again as soon as they come accross new information.

(This episode is scheduled to be aired again early next month.)

kadrmas15
10-08-2006, 10:26 PM
I am assuming one of the men that did it was not Jeff Oberholtzer. I dont know I briefly considered the possiblity he did it b ut he just never really fit in with that. It was just by coincidence I think that he knew Annette in addition to his wife. You said one man was killed a few years after the murders in a botched bank robbery but I am assuming the other man involved in this is still alive? It will be very interesting to see what happens here in the coming weeks and months. It will be 25 years in January since the murders and I hope the families can finally get justice and see a killer brought to trial and put behind bars.

dynoguy88
10-09-2006, 10:18 AM
I am assuming one of the men that did it was not Jeff Oberholtzer. I dont know I briefly considered the possiblity he did it b ut he just never really fit in with that. It was just by coincidence I think that he knew Annette in addition to his wife. You said one man was killed a few years after the murders in a botched bank robbery but I am assuming the other man involved in this is still alive? It will be very interesting to see what happens here in the coming weeks and months. It will be 25 years in January since the murders and I hope the families can finally get justice and see a killer brought to trial and put behind bars.

The names of the men were censored on the program, so we don't know. But Jeff Oberholzter was cleared as a suspect in the early 90's when DNA sampling became available. (It would have been impossible for him to kill the two women anyway given his wherabouts and the time his wife called home after Annette vanished.)

Yes, one man is dead but the other is still alive. As of yet, detectives have not done a DNA sample of either of them so we'll have to wait and see how that turns out. But I agree with you. This case is LONG overdue to be solved. These poor families have had to deal with this for almost a quarter of a century. It's time they got the justice they deserve.

compulsive dvd
10-13-2006, 10:15 PM
Not sure how much of an update this is, but I just thought I would pass this along. I did a little checking places, and would you believe Kevin Snyder and Bean Baxter are STILL employed at KROQ in Los Angeles, CA?! That's just wrong. Those 2 should have been fired about 15 years ago when their hoax was revealed, and shouldn't be able to work in radio again. All they got was a five day suspension. The way they played with so many people's emotions is just wrong. I was even more depressed to learn that they get a lot of celebrities on their show. I wonder if those celebrities are aware of what happened.

In the original UM segment, Snyder said that, when asked point blank if it was a hoax, "There are certain lines you just don't cross." I thought "you lowlife, you knew all along it wasn't true."

A check of their profile on wikipedia reveals that they've had other lawsuits/controversies. They issued a crank call to French President Jacques Shirac, who actually came on the phone at one point, they've been slapped with at least a few different lawsuits that alleged wrongful termniation of an employee due to religious and racial discrimination and failure to deliver a prize (an SUV) that was won. They've also told listeners about concerts that never existed and many people scrambled to find where they were only to learn it wasn't true.

For those of you who might be unfamiliar with the segment, Snyder and Baxter conspired with another dj (a Doug Roberts in Phoenix, AZ, who sadly enough, later found employment with KROQ) to hoax a confession on air. Roberts stated that he murdered his girlfriend. The whole thing was a publicity stunt.

I have no idea how they thought they were going to get away with that. Since many people have heard Dick Roberts voice, and that Phoenix is in a state that neighbors LA's state, one would figure somone would recognize his voice, particluarly since there are so many people in L.A., unless Roberts disguised his voice.

Oy vey.

They have a very popular radio show, so it would be difficult to let them go over something like that. I listen to them almost every morning and they often refer to that situation. A few months ago they had a caller call in and say something similar and they were like if Robert Stack is watching down from heaven, that was the caller trying to confess a crime, not us. Also there is a VO that says "Kevin Ryder and Gene Baxter were lying"

wiseguy182
10-14-2006, 07:11 AM
They have a very popular radio show, so it would be difficult to let them go over something like that. I listen to them almost every morning and they often refer to that situation. A few months ago they had a caller call in and say something similar and they were like if Robert Stack is watching down from heaven, that was the caller trying to confess a crime, not us. Also there is a VO that says "Kevin Ryder and Gene Baxter were lying"

Their show was not popular when this incident happened. They were new to the airwaves and they did this as a publicity stunt to boost ratings, sadly it must have worked. These people toyed with human emotions and yes, anyone involved in this absurd stunt should have been fired.

Kenwuest
10-23-2006, 08:32 PM
In response to kadrmas15's message--"I'm thinking of starting a little morbid project. I actually wanted advice. The project would involve me trying to figure out the mind of some of these creeps. Actually write to them in prison. Ask why they took part in it the things they did, what their lives were like before this stuff happened, things like that. Any advice?"

You could get what you need from the massive amounts of writtings on the people. I think it is dangerous to be writing to them... for interaction with them can affect and alter a person as well as create a link, that unless one is trained for, can have a negative effect on one's life.

FanfromES
11-07-2006, 11:31 PM
Its been a long time...i thought the site was not available anymore...its strange...just a couple of weeks after i rediscovered the forum, UM started airing again in a local network.

I got a couple of questions from the last episode...

What happened with that crazy cult leader named DeCloud?...did he get caught?

crystaldawn
11-08-2006, 08:48 AM
Its been a long time...i thought the site was not available anymore...its strange...just a couple of weeks after i rediscovered the forum, UM started airing again in a local network.

I got a couple of questions from the last episode...

What happened with that crazy cult leader named DeCloud?...did he get caught?

Welcome back! :) It does appear he was caught. I found this blurb about him on the internet:

Missouri. The leader of a religious commune in Clay County has been convicted of kidnapping, raping, sodomizing and restraining the daughter of one of his followers. The recommended sentence for Nelson DeCloud, 53, is 220 years in prison. (Centre Daily Times, 8/5/94; AP, 8/4/94)

cuba_libre
11-08-2006, 03:52 PM
These updates are good to read! Miss the show so very much!

FanfromES
11-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the update, CrystalDawn! :) when i found that the forum still existed, i looked for updates of my favorite cases. :( Sad to found that Tara Calico's whereabouts are still unknown after 20 years,

But maybe this one has been solved: the couple who kidnapped their grand-children (i think the name was the Maples?)

I dont remember the age of the children the time of the kidnapping...if they were over 6 i think they must remember their parents... they must be adults by now, so they aren't under their grandparents control and can try to return to US (if they are in Europe like the show pointed)

wiseguy182
11-08-2006, 11:51 PM
That's true, plus the grandparents (I can't remember if it was the Maples that were the grandparents and the Baskins were the parents, or vice versa) would have to pretty old by this point, assuming they are still alive. Those 2 things would lead me to believe that the Baskin children are free now, I hope so.

PlasmaFiend(sic)
11-10-2006, 09:25 PM
ATTN: KADRMAS15-- You might want to read a book called "The Last Victim," by Jason Moss. He was a criminology or psychology student at the University of Nevada who undertook a project similar to what you're talking about. He started by writing letters to John Wayne Gacy and expanded to other serial killers, including Richard Ramierez, Charles Manson, and Jeffrey Dahmer. His methods were actually pretty ingenious-- he studied the serial killers and their victims of choice, and then modeled his letters after those types of people. However, I'd echo Crystaldawn's warning. BE CAREFUL. The author talks about how Gacy used to call him collect at his home, and Ramierez sent him some MESSED UP drawings. I want to say that Moss himself even admitted that the project wasn't the best idea in the end. I own the book, but it's been FOREVER since I read it (I read it when the book came out in hardback-- I wanna say 1999.)

Here's a link to the book at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446608270/104-4937743-9763952?v=glance&n=283155). Apparently, the author is a lawyer now. :)

Hey i dont know if you know but that guy moss killed himself not too long ago heres a link http://deadsilence.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/the-last-victim-author-committed-suicide/

kadrmas15
11-11-2006, 07:44 PM
Yeah I read about that! I actually bought that book after someone on here recommended it. Well in my view where Moss got into trouble with the whole thing was that he wasnt himself. He acted like one of these guys ideal victims to get them to talk to him and it really was emotionally draining to him. But yeah I didnt even know Moss had killed himself until like a month ago when I looked him up on wikipedia. Apperantly he killed himself back on June 6th. His former college professor said it was pretty surprising and he always wondered if Jason got into satan stuff a little too much while he was writing to Richard Ramirez. But Moss killed himself on June 6th, 2006 666. He was 31 years old.

FanfromES
11-15-2006, 12:39 AM
i watched UM last sunday, that episode presented 3 stories:

1. Tina Resch, a 14 yo girl who apparently could move things with her mind. A telekinesis-poltergeist case.

2. FBI looked for help to find 2 bank robbers: the Grandpa Robber and the Milk Carton Thief.

3. A woman who believed she was adopted during her early childhood, looked for the couple who gave her more love than her biological parents.

some commentaries:

I found that the Resch telekinesis case was believed a fraud after some TV crew left a camera in her house and it took a picture of her tricking the objects to simulate the poltergeist. Actually this is mentioned in the UM episode (i think they show the actual photo). I dont know if all the witnesses were lying or they were fooled by Tina.
Sadly it seems that Tina Resch was a disturbed person. She was sentenced to life for killing her 3yo daughter.

I dont know if the woman of the 3rd story found the couple who briefly adopted her or they were just a product of her imagination. Maybe some of you have seen an update of this case.

SP4CE INV4DERZ
11-15-2006, 06:03 AM
stories:2. FBI looked for help to find 2 bank robbers: the Grandpa Robber and the Milk Carton Thief.

Did you happen to record this? I as well as a few others would be real intersted in this!

wiseguy182
11-15-2006, 11:17 PM
Regarding Tina Resch, it was believed that she concocted the whole telekinesis deal as a publicity stunt - she really just wanted to locate her birth parents. I used to think Tina could really move objects without touching them, but now I doubt it. Come to think of it, I believe the segment said (it's been awhile since I've seen it) that the objects would only move when everybody was out of the room, had their backs turned, etc. I definitely wouldn't believe anything Tina says now after learning she murdered her daughter.

However, looking at the other side of this, perhaps Tina really does have/did have telekinesis powers. I'm not sure the dryer spinning out of control, clock going berzerk, eggs coming out of the fridge can really be explained. (the eggs flying out of the frige with the door closed was a really odd visual, btw). Tina did admit once to faking an occurence, but stated that she just did it to get the media off her back as they were bugging her. That does make some sense. I often hear reports about celebrities and the papparazzi. I really wish more could be done about papparazzi.

I guess I'm on the fence on this one.

wiseguy182
11-16-2006, 01:43 AM
this just in: Ira Eihorn (aka "The Unicorn Killer") has lost his appeal of his 2002 conviction for killing his girlfriend about 25 years ago.

HyeTev
11-16-2006, 09:23 AM
this just in: Ira Eihorn (aka "The Unicorn Killer") has lost his appeal of his 2002 conviction for killing his girlfriend about 25 years ago.

Good. Perhaps he will now just shut up and do his time.

kadrmas15
11-16-2006, 10:39 AM
Well I wouldnt count on that. The guy is doing life in prison he has nothing to lose so he will keep appealing. Did you know that Einhorn's original lawyer back when he was first arrested is none other than current U.S. Senator Arlen Specter? Specter was the one that argued back then that Einhorn should have to only pay 10 percent of the 40 thousand dollar bail and it was after Einhorn was able to pay it that he skipped town and left the country. Specter is also the same guy that came up with the magic bullet theory in the Kennedy assassination. Well Einhorn too was sentenced according to 1977 sentencing guidelines so he got off much easier.

HyeTev
11-16-2006, 10:58 AM
Well I wouldnt count on that. The guy is doing life in prison he has nothing to lose so he will keep appealing. Did you know that Einhorn's original lawyer back when he was first arrested is none other than current U.S. Senator Arlen Specter? Specter was the one that argued back then that Einhorn should have to only pay 10 percent of the 40 thousand dollar bail and it was after Einhorn was able to pay it that he skipped town and left the country. Specter is also the same guy that came up with the magic bullet theory in the Kennedy assassination. Well Einhorn too was sentenced according to 1977 sentencing guidelines so he got off much easier.

I remember how outraged the cops were when Specter got his way.

Man, don't get me started on that 'magic bullet' crap. :lol: Dr. Wecht tore that one apart... lawyers really need to stay out of the ballistics biz. Just stick to lying instead. :D

LooksLikeCRicci
11-16-2006, 11:15 PM
On behalf of the law students/lawyers who frequently post on here, I say "HEY!" :)

FanfromES
11-19-2006, 01:01 AM
Regarding the Tina Resch episode, i actually recorded it, but as you know i live in Central America where the show is dubbed in spanish (Stack sounds weird btw) and i used the videocassette so many times that the image is nothing but good. So sorry SpaceInvaderz :( if you are still interested we could find some way to send you a copy.

My opinion is that Tina faked the whole incident, maybe she wanted to meet her real parents (its a decent reason to me) but maybe she just wanted to have her 15 minutes of fame.

It seems that there's no evidence of a real telekinesis case, even Uri Geller was unmasked once.

SP4CE INV4DERZ
11-19-2006, 02:56 AM
Regarding the Tina Resch episode, i actually recorded it, but as you know i live in Central America where the show is dubbed in spanish (Stack sounds weird btw) and i used the videocassette so many times that the image is nothing but good. So sorry SpaceInvaderz :( if you are still interested we could find some way to send you a copy.

So the video is the same but they have dubbed a spanish audio track over it? Hmmm... might hafta take up Spanish :D

charmedsignora
11-27-2006, 10:41 AM
I can't believe this, but a while back I actually came across an update on Deborah Poe, the woman who disappeared from the convenience store in Orlando, Fla. In 2002, it was discovered that the police were searching the area around a nearby pond, but refused to say why they were searching it. Also, they affirmed that they had a suspect in the case, but refused to name him. I'll post this link the next time I find it!

~ charmedsignora

charmedsignora
11-28-2006, 04:54 PM
I can't believe this, but a while back I actually came across an update on Deborah Poe, the woman who disappeared from the convenience store in Orlando, Fla. In 2002, it was discovered that the police were searching the area around a nearby pond, but refused to say why they were searching it. Also, they affirmed that they had a suspect in the case, but refused to name him. I'll post this link the next time I find it!

~ charmedsignora


Here's that link I was talking about! And the land they searched wasn't near a pond, it was near a church. My mistake...

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/poe_deborah.html

charmedsignora
11-28-2006, 04:57 PM
The last time I saw the Chaim Weiss case on UM, this detail wasn't mentioned (and if it was, I missed it.) So I thought I'd post a link to this article I found...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE0DC1638F937A35752C1A960948260

FanfromES
11-28-2006, 11:44 PM
I just watched an UM episode with 2 interesting stories:

1. Two latin men accused of rape and homicide of 10 yo Janine Nicarico. They were sentenced to death. Some years later, a man confessed being the real author of the crime. It seems the attorney office ignored this facts and the initial suspects were still imprisoned at the time of the show.
Do you know if they were declared innocent? or they were executed :( .

2. It seemed that Jim Boumgarden had a clone. Friends and family reported encounters with an identical man. Jim discovered that he had a twin brother and both were adopted by different families. Did he found his brother?

LooksLikeCRicci
11-30-2006, 04:48 PM
The Chaim Weiss case is one of the most haunting cases on UM. No joke. Everytime I watch it, I get goosebumps.

SP4CE INV4DERZ
11-30-2006, 11:13 PM
Two latin men accused of rape and homicide of 10 yo Janine Nicarico. They were sentenced to death. Some years later, a man confessed being the real author of the crime. It seems the attorney office ignored this facts and the initial suspects were still imprisoned at the time of the show.
Do you know if they were declared innocent? or they were executed :( .

Yes thank christ Rolando Cruz and Alejandro Hernandez were released after spending about 11 years in prison. Google Rolando Cruz and there's alot of info you can read.

FanfromES
12-01-2006, 12:21 AM
Thanks Spaceinvaderz for the update...its good to know they were released...i guess if they were rewarded somehow for all those years in prison...

About Jim Boumgarden...the weirdness of the story shoulda attracted attention of people who knowed his twin brother...
if there's no update maybe his brother didnt want to be found or he was dead at the time of the show

charmedsignora
12-01-2006, 10:55 AM
The Chaim Weiss case is one of the most haunting cases on UM. No joke. Everytime I watch it, I get goosebumps.

I agree wholeheartedly!

charmedsignora
12-01-2006, 11:05 AM
This update is for Kevin Ives and Don Henry, the "Boys on the Tracks." The article was written four years ago, but it seems as if there may have been witnesses to the entire incident...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/790016/posts

kadrmas15
12-02-2006, 10:20 AM
Well after reading that article I am actually more convinced than ever that there is a police cover up with this case. The big blue wall as I like to call it. Did anyone how the current chief of police really did not deny what the guy that knew the eyewitness said? What the chief was doing was basically grasping at straws trying everything in his power to debunk the guy that was saying his friend saw the whole thing go down. Yet in trying to debunk the chief actually strengthened what the guy said in my opinion.

boco357
12-02-2006, 11:59 AM
Jay Campbell one of the accused in the Boys on the Tracks is on trial for pretty much everything under the sun in Lonoke.


http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=5451d408-9652-45fd-927f-d5aa2f0dd7a5

rdsimms
12-05-2006, 11:18 AM
I have only seen this on UM twice - but this occurred in my home town.

This person worked for a money courier and her job was to refill the ATM's
at local banks. Her company was being bought and her accounts were to be
audited. She had already stolen some of money and then stole more on the day that she was to train her replacement - she was still supposed to have a job after the training. Her last bank that she took money from before disappearing is only about 2 miles from my house.

She has finally turned herself in after 6 years.

This link gives more info -

http://www.kokomotribune.com/local/local_story_338150040.html

Kane
12-19-2006, 08:52 AM
Remember the segment about Alan Golder, the so-called Dinnertime Bandit? He's been captured in Belgium.

http://1010wins.com/pages/149488.php?contentType=4&contentId=260317

kadrmas15
12-19-2006, 02:24 PM
Hmm well I was kind of surprised to see Golder captured after all of this time. I imagine he will probably be going away for the rest of his life considering all the crimes he has committed or at least a very long time. I saw that on AMW.com a little while ago when I went to check up there. Golder I am guessing probably got arrested for something else and then they ran his prints.

cuba_libre
12-21-2006, 03:15 PM
Not shocked that Alan Golder would be found in a country known for its diamonds!

Huskerz85
12-31-2006, 02:14 PM
I've done a search and I don't think this has yet been posted.......

When it comes to Bill Rundle/Tracy Kenley.......I clearly remember getting on the official UM site and emailing two links and an article concerning the fact that the case had since been closed.........

Here's one that's still active........
Bill Rundle & Tracy Kenley--State Trooper's Assoc. of Nebraska (http://www.netroopers.org/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/06/16/3eeddfae8dec7)

FanfromES
01-09-2007, 12:28 AM
Last night UM featured some interesting cases:

1. Wendy Campbell, her daughter and sister-in-law went missing after her ex-husband's mother left them in a mall's parking lot. Wendy's ex-husband Chad Noe was interviewed and the guy even admited that he bragged about killing them when he was drunk :mad:
At the time of the show there wasnt enough evidence to sentence Chad. I wonder if this story had a happy ending and Chad is now rotting in a small cell somewhere.

2. A man who was member of a ortodox jewish sect was accused of fraud. The man robbed almost $200,000,000 from banks all around the world, he changed his name to Joe Weiss and went living underground with his wife and 12 children.

3. A watchman noticed a man putting something in a dumpster, when the watchman asked him, the man offered him some money to keep his mouth shut. After the man was gone, the watchman checked the dumpster and found a dead woman. She was a korean lady who had dissapeared the night before. They showed a sketch of the killer based on the watchman descriptions.

Maybe some of you know if there are updates to these cases.

wiseguy182
01-09-2007, 02:49 AM
Last night UM featured some interesting cases:

1. Wendy Campbell, her daughter and sister-in-law went missing after her ex-husband's mother left them in a mall's parking lot. Wendy's ex-husband Chad Noe was interviewed and the guy even admited that he bragged about killing them when he was drunk :mad:
At the time of the show there wasnt enough evidence to sentence Chad. I wonder if this story had a happy ending and Chad is now rotting in a small cell somewhere.

2. A man who was member of a ortodox jewish sect was accused of fraud. The man robbed almost $200,000,000 from banks all around the world, he changed his name to Joe Weiss and went living underground with his wife and 12 children.

3. A watchman noticed a man putting something in a dumpster, when the watchman asked him, the man offered him some money to keep his mouth shut. After the man was gone, the watchman checked the dumpster and found a dead woman. She was a korean lady who had dissapeared the night before. They showed a sketch of the killer based on the watchman descriptions.

Maybe some of you know if there are updates to these cases.

There have not been any updates to the first and last cases you mentioned, unfortunately. I am unsure about the middle one.

rk
01-15-2007, 03:02 AM
Someone else may have already updated this case, so apologies for any repetition.

Happened to be watching a rerun episode yesterday on cable that featured the case. This was about the young mother from Jacksonville, FL who disappeared without trace in 1993, leaving a 3 year old child, and a husband who was apparently abusive towards her and was the main suspect in her murder.

Most hauntingly, the 3 year old was interviewed by a child psychologist, and reported witnessing his mother's murder by the father.

Oddly, too, the wife's family believed the husband was innocent, while the husband's family thought he'd done it.

Anyway, though he still hasn't been charged, the latest is a judge has found him liable for the wife's murder in a civil death suit. See the attached link:

http://www.local10.com/news/4396163/detail.html

Kane
01-20-2007, 02:41 PM
Here's a new article related mentioning the arrest of William Harrison Blackwell. He was the Texas man wanted for the 1988 murder of James Neal Jennings, whose body was found burning on a mattress. He had been shot to death.

The article mentions the fact that the case was on Unsolved Mysteries. As I recall, the segment was shown during the 1992-93 season.

http://www.oaoa.com/news/nw012007b.htm

compulsive dvd
01-23-2007, 09:09 PM
The last time I saw the Chaim Weiss case on UM, this detail wasn't mentioned (and if it was, I missed it.) So I thought I'd post a link to this article I found...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE0DC1638F937A35752C1A960948260

Didn't this segment say he had been killed by a blow to the head? That would have had to be a large, heavy knife. I think most people who watch the show think this is one of the saddest. Who gets killed in a Yeshiva?

Kane
01-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Didn't this segment say he had been killed by a blow to the head?

Yes, the segment said that Chaim suffered a blow to the head. Maybe he was actually both stabbed and beaten to death, and that the stabbing part was omitted on UM, and that the part about being beaten to death was initially withheld from the press? Or the maybe the show was misinformed about the nature of Chaim's death? :confused:

LooksLikeCRicci
02-05-2007, 12:33 PM
Here's an update to a story that was featured on UM, but it's not exactly a helpful update, so to speak:

Skeletal remains were found recently in the Mission Mountains in Montana. Investigators say that the remains are too recent to be that of Father John Kerrigan.

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2007/02/03/news/mtregional/znews05.txt

Although we aren't really anywhere closer to finding Father Kerrigan, I thought this article was post-worthy because it mentions some things that I didn't know about that were not mentioned in the UM segment regarding Father Kerrigan. Anyway, it IS nice to know that he hasn't been forgotten and that they're still pursuing leads in his case.

FanfromES
02-05-2007, 11:22 PM
I watched the Doreen Marfeo episode last night. She was a woman who dissapeared without a trace. Her husband, Stephen was the main suspect for the police. Sadly they never found evidence of him killing Doreen.

I searched for an update to this story and find myself angry when i saw that Stephen committed suicide. Its sad that he lived 10 years more than Doreen and enough to kill another woman and wound a man. He got away with it. The coward. :mad: .

Another story was about Raymond Young (sp?) who according to FBI faked his own death to escape a sentence for tax fraud. Guess if he was found alive.

kadrmas15
02-06-2007, 04:56 AM
Well interesting story on the case of Kerrigan is that I saw a case on A and E's American Justice that seemed similiar to the Catholic priests killings sort of. In 1981 in Odessa, Texas a Catholic Priest named Father Patrick Ryan was found dead in an Odessa, Texas hotel room. A man later confessed to murdering Ryan and the man was arrested in Albuquerque, New Mexico where he was drunk and made the confession. The man shortly there after recanted the confession and he claims he did it due to a bizarre circumstance of being drunk and lonely. Forensic experts looked at the case and found there was really nothing to tie him to it other than the confession. They f ound that he was in Hobbs, New Mexico when the murder occurred in Odessa. As a matter of fact this man, I believe his name was James Ramos if I remember right was sentenced to 38 years in prison, Ramos claimed his innocence the whole time and was released from prison in 2003 after serving 20 years. He is still trying to clear his name. I dont think he murdered Ryan but I do think it is possible that Ryan's case could be connected to Father Renaldo and Father Kerrigan. Anyone else seen this or have an opinion on this?

wimpydodo
02-09-2007, 03:49 PM
Please click one of the Quick Reply icons in the posts above to activate Quick Reply.Has anyone heard anything on Tara Grinstead lately?

Kane
02-11-2007, 01:52 PM
There's a recent article on the 1975 murder of John Hardin. He was the Florida man who was killed with a shotgun after his vehicle was set on fire. UM did a segment about the case in 1991, and the segment was about a house that was believed to be haunted by the ghost of its former owner, John Hardin.

The recent article I came across is a short article, and it says that the case was being reopened. There are no suspects, but there's the possibility of conducting interviews.

It's not much of an update, but it's better than nothing.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-lbriefs08_1107feb08,0,2953839.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-lake

PD1981
02-14-2007, 09:36 AM
Arrest in the Data Satterfield murder. Remember she was the owner of a beauty salon who was found raped and murdered in her salon. A door-to-door saleslady got a good look at the suspect.

http://www.fox21.com/Global/story.asp?S=4739267&nav=2KPp

Also update in the Carson Prince case. Carson was seen fighting with a man while riding in a pickup truck and fell and subsequently died of her injuries. A man has admitted to killing her and has been arrested.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=38900

I viewed the Dana Satterfield case for the first time on a UM rerun on the Crime Investigation Channel last year and I remember feeling so sorry for her and so angry that whoever the creep was who had taken the life of such a beautiful and friendly woman was still out there. It is very good news that they have apprehended someone here -at last someone can be held accountable for this heinous crime and hopefully the Satterfield family can take some comfort in knowing that the offender is where he belongs

FanfromES
02-20-2007, 12:09 AM
Last night UM had 3 interesting stories:

7 years old Gary Grant Jr. was beaten to death. His friend Boo Mason was a suspect but he was dismissed later. I think this case is still unsolved.

A nurse tried to kill 2 patients with a overdose of insuline. Later she fled with the boyfriend she met in prison. I dont know if she was caught.

A 15 years old girl left her home with her boyfriend, her parents never saw her again. When they died they left her $150,000, so UM was looking for this lost heiress. DId they find her?

Guess some of you have an update to these stories...

Thanks.

Fletch
02-20-2007, 02:44 AM
Last night UM had 3 interesting stories:

7 years old Gary Grant Jr. was beaten to death. His friend Boo Mason was a suspect but he was dismissed later. I think this case is still unsolved.



Still unsolved (there's multiple threads here on Gary Grant Jr.....not sure about the other cases you mentioned).

Goofyman
03-02-2007, 06:26 PM
"2. A man who was member of a ortodox jewish sect was accused of fraud. The man robbed almost $200,000,000 from banks all around the world, he changed his name to Joe Weiss and went living underground with his wife and 12 children."

Could that be, and bear with me on the spelling:

Joseph Putzinowski?

He was accused of stealing over $100,000,000 in complex frauds, only one known picture of him? He was captured (using one of those horribly scary text updates, still haunts me when I walk in halls at night alone), but I don't know.

FanfromES
03-05-2007, 06:24 PM
yes i think thats the case, good to know he was caught.

mozartpc27
03-06-2007, 01:44 AM
This update is for Kevin Ives and Don Henry, the "Boys on the Tracks." The article was written four years ago, but it seems as if there may have been witnesses to the entire incident...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/790016/posts

Anyone else notice that in the discussion of this article it is suggested by more than a few people that then-Governor Clinton was involved in the illegal drug operation and thus involved in authorizing a cover up of the boys' deaths? They're probably all Republicans, of course; it always amazes me how readily people are willing to assume the worst kinds of behavior from our government. They're not always wrong, of course, but I somehow doubt a man as smart as Clinton would have allowed himself to be tied to an illegal drug operation, much less the covering up of the murder of a couple of kids...

Ya gotta love conspiracy theorists.

Awsi Dooger
03-06-2007, 02:38 AM
Well, freerepublic.com is a long established right wing message board. So you're going to get that type of slant. The parallel is probably DemocraticUnderground.com, where I post. Sites like that have tens of thousands of members, maybe above 100,000, so there's plenty of conspiracy talk and everything else. I remember in late 2002 when Paul Wellstone died in a small plane crash late in his senate re-election bid there were many threads on DU claiming Republicans were responsible, sabotaging the aircraft. I couldn't believe the lunacy and I made plenty of enemies by posting it was undoubtedly an unfortunate accident but not suspicious. I learned to mostly stay away from threads like that.

Kane
03-08-2007, 07:17 PM
http://www.590klbj.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=64855

According to the article at the link above, Dorothy Carlson and her husband James were featured on UM and America's Most Wanted. They had been on the run since the early 1990s, wanted for sexual assault. Dorothy has been captured, and there are indications that James Carlson died in Mexico.

mozartpc27
03-11-2007, 12:50 AM
UM once profiled an armored car robbery that had happened in Rochester, NY. The robbers were apparently waiting in a parking lot for the car to make an unauthorized stop, were able to gain control of the car, drove it to a secluded area, and ultimately made off with $11M. In 2002, a guy named Albert M. Ranieri was charged with a plethora of crimes, including a 2000 murder, and he was scheduled to plead guilty; in so doing, he was evidently prepared to admit to the heist, even though the statute of limitations had expired on this crime: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/news/extra/leonardo/1203story1_news.shtml

Awsi Dooger
03-13-2007, 05:45 AM
UM once profiled an armored car robbery that had happened in Rochester, NY. The robbers were apparently waiting in a parking lot for the car to make an unauthorized stop, were able to gain control of the car, drove it to a secluded area, and ultimately made off with $11M. In 2002, a guy named Albert M. Ranieri was charged with a plethora of crimes, including a 2000 murder, and he was scheduled to plead guilty; in so doing, he was evidently prepared to admit to the heist, even though the statute of limitations had expired on this crime:

I just watched dynoguy's clips of this case on YouTube. Wow. Plenty of amazing info when I researched it online.

This was the case that had the look of an inside job. Turns out Ranieri, the driver, was involved. He let the man inside the armored truck when the female guard went into the convenience store. The story about the robbers using their own key was phony. Ranieri's father lived right around the corner.

Get this, supposedly the money was split with his father, primarily to fund a criminal enterprise. Ranieri failed a lie detector test and was immediately the prime suspect. At one point the FBI even rammed into his car while tailing him, knocking a surveillance beacon off the car and prompting court cases to get it back.

Detour: I just heard big bangs outside at 2:30 AM. I figured it had to be the implosion of the Stardust. Sure enough, I turned to a local channel and there it goes, a longtime hangout of mine going down. They're really giving it a sendoff with a fireworks display beforehand. Plenty of cheering. I'm sure this will be on the cable channels later today. Now a wave of dust covering the city, and coming this way.

Anyway, Ranieri eventually committed the murder of a crime associate after Ranieri's criminal partner falsely told him the guy was cheating them during money laundering. Ranieri at one point was so paranoid about being caught with the armored truck money he burned at least $100,000 outside his home.

An undercover informant caught Ranieri and his criminal partner on tape, admitting to the heist and murder and many other crimes. The authorities burst in and arrested Ranieri and the other guy. Turns out they were carrying guns and may have been planning to kill the informant that night, although they apparently didn't suspect him.

This stuff happened about 5 or 6 years ago. Ranieri pled guilty and is serving 30 years to life. The vast majority of the money has not been recovered or accounted for, and the cohorts in the robbery apparently not caught.

Autumn71
04-08-2007, 04:57 AM
Hello,
I am new to this sight. I have often wondered about a story that was on UM and I hope that someone here might know of an update to it.

Years ago a saw a story about a soft spoken elderly man that was seperated from his sister as a small boy. The sister was going to be adopted. He was taken to the adoptive home to try to get his baby sister to bond with the adoptive parents then he was taken away. He wanted to reunite with his sister.

I do not recall his name but I have never been able to forget his story. Everytime I have seen UM since I have hoped that they might have an update about him.

I hope someone knows whatever happened with him?

Awsi Dooger
04-10-2007, 03:02 AM
Hello,
I am new to this sight. I have often wondered about a story that was on UM and I hope that someone here might know of an update to it.

Years ago a saw a story about a soft spoken elderly man that was seperated from his sister as a small boy. The sister was going to be adopted. He was taken to the adoptive home to try to get his baby sister to bond with the adoptive parents then he was taken away. He wanted to reunite with his sister.

I do not recall his name but I have never been able to forget his story. Everytime I have seen UM since I have hoped that they might have an update about him.

I hope someone knows whatever happened with him?

Autumn71, I think you should ask about this on the main board, in a new thread. This is an updates thread and I think far fewer posters check it regularly.

Welcome to the site. :welcome:

pbur98
04-12-2007, 08:56 PM
looks like the final chapter is about to conclude with a guilty plea from tyrone hamel for the murder of gretchen burford in 1988. in building their case, the DA on a hunch dusted the gretchen burford's car and came up with hand print for the suspect tyrone hamel. how mountain view pd missed something that overt is beyond me back in 1988--- anyway, hamel plead guilty when presented with this overwhelming evidence.

LooksLikeCRicci
04-14-2007, 01:59 AM
Gotta love that...

:banana: :mango: :banana: :mango: :banana:

kane7474
04-25-2007, 03:26 PM
Anyone else notice that in the discussion of this article it is suggested by more than a few people that then-Governor Clinton was involved in the illegal drug operation and thus involved in authorizing a cover up of the boys' deaths? They're probably all Republicans, of course; it always amazes me how readily people are willing to assume the worst kinds of behavior from our government. They're not always wrong, of course, but I somehow doubt a man as smart as Clinton would have allowed himself to be tied to an illegal drug operation, much less the covering up of the murder of a couple of kids...

Ya gotta love conspiracy theorists.
Do you remember as Govenor Bill Clinton gave pardons to both his brother Roger and his drug dealer Dan Lasitter?

Kane
04-25-2007, 08:00 PM
Do you remember as Govenor Bill Clinton gave pardons to both his brother Roger and his drug dealer Dan Lasitter?

Or that Bill Clinton gave a presidential pardon to fugitive tax-evader Marc Rich, instead of FBI-killer Leonard Peltier? It didn't sit well with David Geffen, who had a falling out with Clinton because of it.

kadrmas15
04-26-2007, 12:54 AM
Bill Clinton involved in anything wrong???????? No way! He only preached out about the middle class like most democrat hypocrites do and how rough they got it only to pardon not only Marc Rich but Dan Rostenkowski and Fife Symington and his own brother Roger Clinton among others!

kamy
04-26-2007, 03:53 PM
Ingenious idea to have an updates section. I was wondering if anyone had ever hear anything more about the David Chase murder? The one where the psychic got involved and it was believed that the Matt whatever guy (who worked w/ David) murdered him. He was thrown into a river. The Matt guy was sketchy and always changing his story, to me it's obvious he did it, but has anyone heard anything new? I've looked on the net and found nothing.

Thanks!

wimpydodo
04-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Was tara Grinstead profiled on unslolved mysteries?

Kane
04-29-2007, 12:55 PM
Was tara Grinstead profiled on unslolved mysteries?

No. Tara Grinstead disappeared in October of 2005, three years after UM went out of production. So it would have beem impossible for UM to have profiled the case. :(

Kane
04-29-2007, 01:03 PM
http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/04/26/dm//sussex_county/dsn02.txt

Gilbert E. Cannon has pled guilty to the 1991 murder of Dorothy Donovan. He was slated to go to trial for the crime in July, but decided to accept a guilty plea instead. He has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

The article at the link above briefly mentions the fact that the crime was featured on UM. The segment aired at the end of the 1994-95 season.

LooksLikeCRicci
04-29-2007, 11:55 PM
What state was this in again? I'm curious as to why he took the plea agreement. My best guess was so he could avoid the death penalty...

EDIT: LOL. That'll teach me to read the article before I ask a question. Now I see that he did take the plea agreement in order to escape the death penalty....

wiseguy182
04-30-2007, 12:14 AM
What state was this in again?

Delaware

nohwheregirl
04-30-2007, 12:42 AM
What state was this in again? I'm curious as to why he took the plea agreement. My best guess was so he could avoid the death penalty...

EDIT: LOL. That'll teach me to read the article before I ask a question. Now I see that he did take the plea agreement in order to escape the death penalty....

I was actually confused by the article for a bit because it kept saying "Houston" and I'm from Texas so I was thinking Houston, Texas....where he would definitely get the death penalty. But they I saw he got life without parole, and knew it definitely wasn't Texas.

LooksLikeCRicci
04-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Yeah. That wouldn't happen in Texas. :)

Kane
05-24-2007, 07:21 PM
The latest on fugitve James 'Whitey' Bulger is a possible sighting of him in Italy. There were a couple of pictures taken of a man and woman in Italy. The couple in question resembled Bulger and his traveling companion Catherine Greig. The pictures were run through facial recognition software. Although the man in the photos could not be conclusively identified as Bulger, the woman is considered "a possible match" for Greig.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/05/24/fbi_investigated_possible_sighting_of_bulger_in_italy/

Awsi Dooger
05-24-2007, 08:32 PM
The latest on fugitve James 'Whitey' Bulger is a possible sighting of him in Italy. There were a couple of pictures taken of a man and woman in Italy. The couple in question resembled Bulger and his traveling companion Catherine Greig. The pictures were run through facial recognition software. Although the man in the photos could not be conclusively identified as Bulger, the woman is considered "a possible match" for Greig.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/05/24/fbi_investigated_possible_sighting_of_bulger_in_italy/

Thanks for the update. That facial recognition software is in its infancy and not necessarily reliable. Notice in Bulger's case you've got the software "unable to determine" if it was Bulger, and "possible match" for Greig. That's incredibly weak.

About a year ago a good friend of mine was detained in a major casino here in Las Vegas, and really hassled by security while being led to the back room. He was eventually released after a couple of hours but we couldn't figure out what had prompted it. I found out months later from an undercover guy in the casino that the mistake was made by the newfangled facial recognition software. My friend had been falsely identified as a widely sought felon.

DP1
05-26-2007, 12:26 AM
It's amazing that Bulger has managed to constantly stay one step ahead of the law.

LooksLikeCRicci
06-25-2007, 04:24 PM
Bo Tanner, the man suspected of arson in Polebridge, MT, was an alias. His real name was Eddie Riddlehoover and he had faked his death in Houston Texas years before his 1990 disappearance from Montana. He had also faked his death in Washington state, by leaving a large quantity of blood in a vehicle, but the blood was later determined to have come from an animal.

Riddlehoover (aka Bo Tanner) was found in Wyoming with a new girlfriend but could not be held because the prosecutor in Washington had refused to file a Bigamy charge. Tanner is suspected in the Arson of his church in Flathead County but could not be charged now, because the statute of limitations has expired.

Rapunzel676
07-22-2007, 03:08 AM
Yes, the segment said that Chaim suffered a blow to the head. Maybe he was actually both stabbed and beaten to death, and that the stabbing part was omitted on UM, and that the part about being beaten to death was initially withheld from the press? Or the maybe the show was misinformed about the nature of Chaim's death? :confused:

I realize this is an older post, and not an update, but since this is a case I happened to have researched quite a bit (actually the reason I ended up here), I thought I'd go ahead and chime in. This has all been collated from various newspaper reports and then synthesized for my own research, so you'll have to forgive me if seems overly dry and clinical. I also don't have the sources close at hand, so you only have my word that it's legit, but I found most everything in the archives of Newsday, in case anyone wants to check.

Early reports gave the cause of death as bludgeoning, probably because of the extensive damage to the victim's skull (a doctor close to the case reportedly compared it to a broken eggshell), but at autopsy Chaim was found to have multiple stab wounds on the right side of his head, neck and face, with lacerations of the brain. The first blow, which struck his right temple and penetrated his brain, had been sufficient to cause instant death.

The knife found nearby was ultimately determined not to have been the murder weapon, which was thought to have been something more like a hatchet.

There's a lot more that wasn't in the UM segment, but since this is the Updates thread, I won't take up any more space.

Heading back to the tower . . . :wave:

crystaldawn
07-22-2007, 05:48 PM
There's a lot more that wasn't in the UM segment, but since this is the Updates thread, I won't take up any more space.

Heading back to the tower . . . :wave:

Rapunzel676 if you feel like leaving your tower again we'd love to hear what all you've learned. Here's a thread you can post it to:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=40393&highlight=Chaim+Weiss

:)

nohwheregirl
07-27-2007, 06:07 PM
The knife found nearby was ultimately determined not to have been the murder weapon, which was thought to have been something more like a hatchet.


Oh my gosh, a hatchet? That is horrifying. Who on earth could do such a thing? And just as bad...how could someone NOT turn this person in to the police?

Yes, please post more info in the Chaim Weiss thread. We'd love to know what else you've found out.

Rapunzel676
07-27-2007, 11:28 PM
Thanks for the link and the encouragment. This has always been, for me, one of the saddest and, simultaneously, most frustrating cases ever featured on UM. Who, indeed, could commit such a heinous act and get away with it all this time? I have made a (very long, sorry!) post in the Weiss thread that I hope sheds a bit more light on the crime.

fluffymermaid
08-09-2007, 04:28 PM
jscout I went to school with Wanda and have thought of her often. I do bussiness with her sister-in-law and maybe that's why she on my mind so much. Or maybe becuase she was a great person. I want to tell you how sorry I am that ya'll are still at a loss. I have been tring to find out if anything has come up about her and finally came across your message. I just want you to know I still think of Wanda and your family all the time. The thing I remember is that she always had a smile on her face and you could tell it came from her heart cause you see it in her eyes. Thanks for letting me talking to you I just wanted to let you know someone besides her family is thinking about her and I have been for all these years. God Bless CLW

ididn'tdoit
08-14-2007, 03:29 PM
http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/hot-new/pressrel/2001/0612-01.htm

Rafael Camarena has been extradited and turned over to the United States. He was responsible for smuggling drugs in an underground tunnel between Agua Prieta, Mexico and Douglas, Arizona, if you haven't seen the segment there's a picture of the tunnel in this press release, pretty impressive work.

Chris Billings
08-16-2007, 04:01 AM
Hi:

There was a very scary segment about videotape found on the side of the road showing a burning house. The police later identified the home on the tape as the work of an arson.

What was terrrifying about this episode was the young voice describing the crime. It was evil sounding, almost satanic. At the end of the tape the male voice eerily warned "You will be next!". Anyway, I saw an update today on another TV program.

Spike TV has a show, "Worlds ???? Videos" and they featured this story. According to the segment a young man was arrested and later found guilty. They didn't give his name but they did mention his punishment, two years in a mental hospital. Maybe Im crazy but it seems to me he got off pretty easy given the seriousness of his crime.

Christopher

LooksLikeCRicci
08-16-2007, 04:23 AM
Hey Chris,

Yeah, I think UM did an update on the "Omar" arsonist, which is who I believe you're referring to. I believe he was given 2 years evaluation because he was a minor at the time the video was shot. I could be wrong, though... but I know UM did eventually do an update on this case. :)

ididn'tdoit
08-16-2007, 04:28 AM
Hi:

There was a very scary segment about videotape found on the side of the road showing a burning house. The police later identified the home on the tape as the work of an arson.

What was terrrifying about this episode was the young voice describing the crime. It was evil sounding, almost satanic. At the end of the tape the male voice eerily warned "You will be next!". Anyway, I saw an update today on another TV program.

Spike TV has a show, "Worlds ???? Videos" and they featured this story. According to the segment a young man was arrested and later found guilty. They didn't give his name but they did mention his punishment, two years in a mental hospital. Maybe Im crazy but it seems to me he got off pretty easy given the seriousness of his crime.

Christopher

There's an article about the "Omar" arsonist in this thread:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=164286&

Chris Billings
08-16-2007, 10:26 AM
Hey Chris,

Yeah, I think UM did an update on the "Omar" arsonist, which is who I believe you're referring to. I believe he was given 2 years evaluation because he was a minor at the time the video was shot. I could be wrong, though... but I know UM did eventually do an update on this case. :)
Thanks, I must have missed that UM update. They do so few, I just automatically assumed there was none. BTW Do we know anything else about this "Omar"?? Why the creepy voice?

Id really like to know his background eg. was he into the occult?

Chris Billings
08-16-2007, 10:31 AM
There's an article about the "Omar" arsonist in this thread:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=164286&
Thanks, I missed this old thread too.

Chris Billings
08-26-2007, 03:05 AM
AMW did a follow up story tonite on Outlaw leader Randy Yager. If you didn't get a chance to watch or have not been keepting tabs, Mr. Yager and his girlfriend, Margie Jelovcic are still on the run. (She has not been charged with anything but authorities want to speak with her). There is one thing that puzzles me about this case.

Margie's family has filed a missing persons report and to my knowledge she has not contacted her family. Has something happened to her?

Kane
08-27-2007, 08:52 AM
Remember the 2001 segment about Karl Rehberg, who was accused of scamming millions of dollars from investors of his company? Well, he and his wife Helen have been captured.

Here's the article:

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/95845

Here's the UM profile of Karl Rehberg:

http://www.unsolved.com/0142-Rehberg.html

Todd Mueller
09-02-2007, 09:14 AM
Thanks for the update, Kane! I'm glad they finally caught up with Karl. I just HATE those scam artists. People like that have a lot of nerve. I'm glad he can't run anymore...

Kane
10-31-2007, 08:32 AM
Lawrence Tutt is expected to plead guilty in the 1991 murder of E.J. "Bill" Henderson. The new article I found briefly mentions the fact that the case was on Unsolved Mysteries.

Henderson was the man who was found beaten and strangled to death in his Texas home in the spring of 1991. According the UM segment, he had been beaten with an iron. The killer then stole Henderson's pickup truck.

Although Tutt was obviously a total stranger, it is not known whether Henderson's killer intruder or he was befriended by Henderson and then invited to his house. But one thing is certain: it was a fatal encounter. :(

Lawrence Tutt was arrested and charged with Henderson's murder last year. Before that time, he was convicted of a 1998 murder in New York.

I remember that a cop being interviewed for the segment said that there was a bloody palm print at the crime scene. For this reason, there was no doubt in my mind that the case would be eventually solved. It was just a matter of finding the person who matched up to that palm print.

It may have taken a little over fifteen years to arrest and charge someone with Henderson's murder, but persistence pays off. :thumbsup:

http://www.amarillo.com/stories/103007/new_8805742.shtml

Kane
11-08-2007, 11:13 AM
In a follow-up message, Lawrence Tutt has pled guilty in the 1991 murder of E.J. 'Bill' Henderson. He has been sentenced to 45 years in prison.

However, that Texas prison sentence won't begin just yet; he has to complete some prison terms out of state on unrelated charges. In New York, he was sentenced to one year in prison for criminal impersonation, plus 25 years for the 1998 arson murder of William Freitag (a resident of Skaneateles, NY); in Ohio, he was sentenced to 13 years in prison for robbery and escape.

http://www.amarillo.com/stories/110307/new_8836983.shtml

joshypiano
11-15-2007, 11:49 AM
Could someone give me a little info on the Dorothy Carlson case and when it was originally aired please?

crystaldawn
12-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Thanks to sugarbaby for finding out that the Sherry Eyerly case has been solved. Here's an article:

Plea deal resolves 25-year-old murder mystery

Sherry Eyerly is pictured in this file photo. She disappeared while delivering pizza in the Salem area in 1982.

SALEM, Ore. - A 25-year-old Salem mystery over the disappearance of a young pizza-delivery woman ended Tuesday with the plea of a convicted murderer.

William Scott Smith entered a guilty plea in a hearing surrounded by law enforcement officials and attended by the family of victim Sherry Eyerly.

She vanished on July 4, 1982, while delivering three large Domino's pizzas. The 18-year-old's car was found with the engine running near the address of the order - less than an hour after she left. The three pizzas were on the ground near her car.

Volunteers searched for days but she never turned up.

To crack the case so many years later, investigators in a cold case unit re-examined evidence and confronted Smith in prison, where he confessed.

Detectives said Smith and an accomplice planned to kidnap Eyerly and hold her for ransom.

"One of the facts that never came out publicly ... is that the next day after the abduction there was actually a ransom call that went into Domino's," said Don Abar of the Marion County District Attorney's Office.

Investigators suspected Smith because he was a serial killer.

He is already serving two life sentences for the sex slayings of two other young Salem women in separate attacks in 1984. Both were dumped in Salem near the Pudding River. Smith reportedly told police he also hid Eyerly's body in the same area.

Authorities said Tuesday that searches of the area didn't turn up anything - likely because of significant flooding over the past 25 years. Eyerly's body has never been found.

As part of the plea deal, a third life sentence will be tacked on to the two Smith is already serving.

Allierain
12-30-2007, 01:47 AM
Thanks to sugarbaby for finding out that the Sherry Eyerly case has been solved.

Wonderful! I was living in Oregon myself when I watched this story for the first time, all those years ago. I am glad this case has been solved, even though they haven't found her body.

Kane
01-19-2008, 02:10 PM
This is old news, and I'm not sure if anyone here has already acknowledged it, but Michael Alfonso pled guilty to the murders of two girlfriends. He admitted to killing Genoveva Velasquez and Sumanear Yang. They were murdered in 1992 and 2001, respectively.

He was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. The prospect of the death penalty resulted in Michael Alfonso's decision to plead guilty.

At the bottom of this post are two links: One contains a July 2007 article on the guilty pleas, and the other is an UM profile of Michael Alfonso.

http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/wheaton/archive/x2144990178

http://www.unsolved.com/0147-Alfonso.html

Todd Mueller
01-23-2008, 05:09 PM
SOLVED: Wanda Jean Mays (from pre-Stack special #2)



Mysterious disappearance of local woman solved

Updated: Jan 23, 2008 03:19 PM CST

Investigators from the Marshall County Sheriff's Office say a woman who disappeared 22 years ago was not murdered.

Wanda Mays was last seen in May of 1986, causing many to speculate what happened to her.

During a press conference today, Sheriff Scott Walls announced that Mays' remains were actually found five years ago at the bottom of a 150 cliff in a wooded area near Cha-La-Kee Road in Guntersville.

It wasn't until recently that a lab in Virginia confirmed that the remains belong to Mays.

Family members said Mays, who suffered from a chemical imbalance, had a panic attack the day she vanished and ran two miles away from a relative's home and fell off the cliff.

The case is now closed and family members are planning to have a memorial service for her once the remains are turned over to them.

DP1
01-23-2008, 11:40 PM
Wanda Mays was the one who lived in a home behind a lake, right? They checked it after she went missing.

suzannec4444
01-29-2008, 09:16 AM
Hi
Has there been updates with Tammy Lynn Leppert?

suzanne

Kane
03-06-2008, 08:23 AM
Alfredo Prieto was recently convicted of the December 1988 murders of Warren Fulton and Rachael Raver. And now, a jury recommends the death penalty for him in both killings.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/03/AR2008030301358.html

He was linked to the double homicide through DNA. When UM ran a segment about the case in 2001, it was revealed that DNA testing concluded that the person who killed the young couple also killed Veronica 'Tina' Jefferson in May 1988. But it wasn't until 2005 when Alfredo Prieto was linked to the cases. At that time, he was residing at San Quentin's death house in California. He was there for the 1990 rape and murder of a teenage girl.

Kane
04-10-2008, 09:02 PM
A man named Marvin Lee Smith Jr. has been arrested for the 1991 murder of Jessica Keen. DNA linked him to the crime.

http://www.nbc4i.com/midwest/cmh/news.apx.-content-articles-CMH-2008-04-10-0008.html

Unsolved Mysteries originally profiled the case in 1999.

http://www.unsolved.com/1105-Keen.html

joshypiano
04-11-2008, 01:22 AM
Good to hear. This was one of those cases I always remembered. Just the image of her running through the cemetary and hiding behind the gravestones really stuck in my mind.

Composite Sketch
04-21-2008, 01:49 AM
Lawrence Tutt is expected to plead guilty in the 1991 murder of E.J. "Bill" Henderson. The new article I found briefly mentions the fact that the case was on Unsolved Mysteries.

Henderson was the man who was found beaten and strangled to death in his Texas home in the spring of 1991. According the UM segment, he had been beaten with an iron. The killer then stole Henderson's pickup truck.

Although Tutt was obviously a total stranger, it is not known whether Henderson's killer intruder or he was befriended by Henderson and then invited to his house. But one thing is certain: it was a fatal encounter. :(

Lawrence Tutt was arrested and charged with Henderson's murder last year. Before that time, he was convicted of a 1998 murder in New York.

I remember that a cop being interviewed for the segment said that there was a bloody palm print at the crime scene. For this reason, there was no doubt in my mind that the case would be eventually solved. It was just a matter of finding the person who matched up to that palm print.

It may have taken a little over fifteen years to arrest and charge someone with Henderson's murder, but persistence pays off. :thumbsup:

http://www.amarillo.com/stories/103007/new_8805742.shtml
GEEZ, I am looking at the photo in the article, and I am visualizing him with many short blond braids and I am TOTALLY flashing back to watching the case back in 1992! I only saw the case that one time and remember so much from it, including the picture of the bloody palm print and the cop saying that once they find whose print it was, they'll have their man.

supersally1974
04-21-2008, 10:34 PM
GEEZ, I am looking at the photo in the article, and I am visualizing him with many short blond braids and I am TOTALLY flashing back to watching the case back in 1992! I only saw the case that one time and remember so much from it, including the picture of the bloody palm print and the cop saying that once they find whose print it was, they'll have their man.

Phew. Am I glad this guy finally got caught. This murder was particularly gruesome and gratuitous. :mad:

MegtheEgg86
06-24-2008, 05:32 PM
There was a hit-and-run accident profiled on UM that took place in North Carolina in 1988. Four young men were run off the road by an unindentified man, and one sustained an injury requiring a leg amputation and another actually died. They were looking at the possibility of it being a hate crime as the four men were black and the assailant was white. Was there ever an update? The unknown man's composite was one of the creepier ones I've seen.

crystaldawn
06-24-2008, 09:31 PM
There was a hit-and-run accident profiled on UM that took place in North Carolina in 1988. Four young men were run off the road by an unindentified man, and one sustained an injury requiring a leg amputation and another actually died. They were looking at the possibility of it being a hate crime as the four men were black and the assailant was white. Was there ever an update? The unknown man's composite was one of the creepier ones I've seen.

No there was never an arrest. Someone posted on here years back and was convinced she knew who was responsible. She told the police what she knew. One of the men who was actually in the car accident posted on here several months ago and it seems the men that survived the accident were doing well and had moved on with their life.

mphs95
06-29-2008, 05:46 PM
CD, what segment is your new avatar from?

crystaldawn
06-29-2008, 06:04 PM
CD, what segment is your new avatar from?

Its Julie Cross.

DP1
06-30-2008, 12:11 AM
What case was Julie Cross?

synthisislab
06-30-2008, 06:30 AM
Julie Cross was the Secret Service agent that was staking out a location in Southern California (San Diego or LA?) with her partner. They noticed a car park in front of them and the two occupants (both black males) went into an apartment complex, came out shortly after, and drove off. Then, a little while later, the men returned and snuck up on Julie and her partner with guns drawn. One got the drop on her partner and the other must have subdued Julie somehow. Her partner was holding the car radio receiver in his hand so the dispatch could hear what was going on. The other perp came around and took the radio receiver from his hand and stole his shotgun. He then went back around to Julie's side and shot her with 3 shotgun blasts, killing her. Then her partner struggled with the other perp for his gun and the perp with the shotgun was trying to shoot him, but couldn't get a clear shot. The struggle ended with the partner on the ground and the perp with the shotgun shot at him and hit the ground instead, barely grazing his face. Then they took off. The Secret Service agents that were supposed to be monitoring Julie and her partner in case of such an incident couldn't hear the commotion because they were right next to the landing zone of a major airport. She was the first female Secret Service agent killed in the line of duty. The perps had nothing to do with the case they were working on and are just believed to have picked Julie and her partner as victims to rob.

crystaldawn
06-30-2008, 07:24 AM
Andre Alexander was arrested for the murder of Julie Cross 12 years after the crime. He was already serving 3 life sentences for murdering 3 people and got the death penalty for killing Julie. Not sure if he's been executed yet or not.

synthisislab
06-30-2008, 06:21 PM
Oh wow, so they caught one of them? Was he the triggerman and did they catch his partner? I just saw this segment for the first time recently and it's one of the best ones.

DP1
06-30-2008, 11:41 PM
Thanks for the info.

regalbeagle
10-14-2008, 08:56 PM
nice to see the jessican keen mystery has been solved...

bryndis
12-23-2008, 01:40 PM
Interesting website /article on Richard Minns and Barbara Piotrowski, (The billionaire who hired two men to kill her, but she was left paralyzed from the waist down)

http://www.roundtop.com/DeGuerin.htm

I read somewhere she filed a lawsuit in 2001 that failed in her favour. In the case she argues that the police failed to protect her when she was shot. Here's an online version of the court case.
http://vlex.com/vid/36108172

crochetbuff
01-22-2009, 07:53 PM
Article mentions Sohus case at the end.


http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/01/rockefeller_due.html
pinoc:

Blackout
06-23-2009, 07:20 PM
Well the Paul Stamper case was on today. Remember he was the guy that attempted to kill his soon to be ex wife's boyfriend. Stamper used a flashing light similar to what a cop would have and put it on his car and used it to pull over his wife and her boyfriend. Stamper fired into the car and one of the bullets ruptured a lot of the boyfriends organs including his heart but he somehow survived. Stamper got off lucky. Well I found his prison file. Paul E. Stamper inmate No. 145521. If you go to the Oklahoma Department of Corrections website and then go into public information you can go into offender search and look this up. It has his mugshots and stuff. It looks like he was released from prison on January 23rd, 2002 after serving just under 10 years of a 30 year sentence. Stamper is currently on probation. Stamper also goes by the alias Gary Wikel. Stamper was born on October 24th, 1955. Stamper is currently on 25 years probation. Stamper will be off probation when his sentence for the crimes expires on April 21st, 2027.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kycarter/charts/meyers_gladys/stamper_james_w.htm

bell83
11-21-2009, 04:18 PM
Last night UM featured some interesting cases:

1. Wendy Campbell, her daughter and sister-in-law went missing after her ex-husband's mother left them in a mall's parking lot. Wendy's ex-husband Chad Noe was interviewed and the guy even admited that he bragged about killing them when he was drunk :mad:
At the time of the show there wasnt enough evidence to sentence Chad. I wonder if this story had a happy ending and Chad is now rotting in a small cell somewhere.

2. A man who was member of a ortodox jewish sect was accused of fraud. The man robbed almost $200,000,000 from banks all around the world, he changed his name to Joe Weiss and went living underground with his wife and 12 children.

3. A watchman noticed a man putting something in a dumpster, when the watchman asked him, the man offered him some money to keep his mouth shut. After the man was gone, the watchman checked the dumpster and found a dead woman. She was a korean lady who had dissapeared the night before. They showed a sketch of the killer based on the watchman descriptions.

Maybe some of you know if there are updates to these cases.


I read something recently about the second one. The man had been apprehended in Israel and ended up serving something like 7 years.

alfiechat
11-26-2009, 11:47 AM
I read something recently about the second one. The man had been apprehended in Israel and ended up serving something like 7 years.
Yes, you are correct, I read the same thing somewhere.

sdb4884
02-14-2010, 08:24 AM
I was searching for an update to the Corinne Gustavson case and it lead me to this thread. Was there an update?

Kane
02-14-2010, 10:46 AM
I was searching for an update to the Corinne Gustavson case and it lead me to this thread. Was there an update?

Yes. Clifford Sleigh was arrested and charged with the murder. He was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for 25 years.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/05/27/punky050527.html

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04-17-2010, 11:30 AM
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Anteros
05-03-2010, 02:22 PM
I distinctly remember a chilling case where a black man had married a woman after already having a troubled life. I believe she had 2 daughters already, or perhaps they were his too, but I'm fairly sure they were his step kids. They rented a house...I believe in vegas, from a business man who was out of town a lot. He had one room to himself for when he was in town.

One night, he came back from a trip and started to get ready for bed but felt uneasy and decided to get up and look around the house. The tenant attacked him and he made his get away by bustng through the glass-paneled front door and running to the security gatehouse.

The police found the bodies of the wife and daughters who had been murdered days earlier.

Does anyone remember this case? If so, whats the name? Is there a place to watch it on YT? Was he ever found?

Thanks

WishfulDreamer
05-04-2010, 07:51 PM
I always JUMP when the guy pops out around the corner in that case! I forgot the name of the segment, but if you search in scariest UM moments (a thread here on the board) you should be able to find it.

Kane
05-05-2010, 08:35 AM
I distinctly remember a chilling case where a black man had married a woman after already having a troubled life. I believe she had 2 daughters already, or perhaps they were his too, but I'm fairly sure they were his step kids. They rented a house...I believe in vegas, from a business man who was out of town a lot. He had one room to himself for when he was in town.

One night, he came back from a trip and started to get ready for bed but felt uneasy and decided to get up and look around the house. The tenant attacked him and he made his get away by bustng through the glass-paneled front door and running to the security gatehouse.

The police found the bodies of the wife and daughters who had been murdered days earlier.

Does anyone remember this case? If so, whats the name? Is there a place to watch it on YT? Was he ever found?

Thanks

It was a "wanted" segment on Joseph Weldon Smith, which was originally shown in early 1991. The murder victims were his forty-seven-year-old wife Judith Smith and her daughters Wendy Cox and Kristy Cox (ages 20 and 12, respectively), both of whom from a previous marriage. They were all murdered in October 1990. Smith was caught soon afterwards, and is now on Nevada's death row.

Here's an article (dated April 23, 1991) on Smith's arrest:

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-04-23/local/me-552_1_nevada-man

UnsolvedMFanatic
05-11-2010, 07:42 PM
Holy crap! I have died,and entered the kingdom of heaven. So this is what heaven is?! A collection of people discussing and providing updates about the show I live for,and watch every single day. Who knew?

I'm brand spankin' new here,and don't know how everything works yet,but I'm so very excited to be here!

There is a God,and just as I had always suspected...he is Robert Stack...I always knew it.
I only watch the original UM,not the new ones with Ugly McGee.
Quick appeal to all of you out there;
I own the "Ultimate Collection",of course. The only way for me to watch segments and episodes not included in the collection (which is most of them),I have to watch them on youtube. Many of them are poor quality,but I don't care,I watch everyday anyway.
What I'm looking for is this-Anyone who has all,or most of the episodes/segments ever made. They can be on DVD,VHS,even Betamax....Doesn't matter. I'll pay ANY AMOUNT...I'll pay thousands of dollars for every,single episode,in ANY format. I'll pay accordingly from there,depending upon how many you do have,if you don't have them all.

It's an impossible search I know,but I'm hoping one of these days my knight in shining armor will come through. Some creepy,obsessed person,who for whatever reason recorded every single episode of UM (like I should have,course I was about 5 when the show first aired).
I've contacted the studio,the producers,production company,everyone imaginable to supply the originally aired episodes,to no avail.

Well, thanks for reading my ramble,and I can't wait to jump in discuss!
Thanks!

Bluejay
05-29-2010, 05:21 PM
UnsolvedMFanatic: I like the Lost Loves, ghost stories, and stories of miracles like the show they did on Lourdes. I have many of them on videotape, but they won't play on my current VCR (to make copies to DVD) without damaging them. If I find a way to do it, I will contact you. I have "Susan and I in Hugo", "Nikki and Charita", the story of the Russian couple -- one Jewish, one Muslim -- trying to make it in America until the wife drowned herself with their baby, the two black sisters who were raised as friends, and several stories about families that were split up by well meaning social workers in the Depression.

unsolved243
11-27-2010, 10:32 AM
Arthur Lopez Jr. was captured about two weeks ago in Monterrey, Mexico, according to another thread.

carebears
11-27-2010, 03:17 PM
The woman's name is Wendy Camp not Cambell.

carebears
11-27-2010, 03:43 PM
Thanks to sugarbaby for finding out that the Sherry Eyerly case has been solved. Here's an article:

Plea deal resolves 25-year-old murder mystery

Sherry Eyerly is pictured in this file photo. She disappeared while delivering pizza in the Salem area in 1982.

SALEM, Ore. - A 25-year-old Salem mystery over the disappearance of a young pizza-delivery woman ended Tuesday with the plea of a convicted murderer.

William Scott Smith entered a guilty plea in a hearing surrounded by law enforcement officials and attended by the family of victim Sherry Eyerly.

She vanished on July 4, 1982, while delivering three large Domino's pizzas. The 18-year-old's car was found with the engine running near the address of the order - less than an hour after she left. The three pizzas were on the ground near her car.

Volunteers searched for days but she never turned up.

To crack the case so many years later, investigators in a cold case unit re-examined evidence and confronted Smith in prison, where he confessed.

Detectives said Smith and an accomplice planned to kidnap Eyerly and hold her for ransom.

"One of the facts that never came out publicly ... is that the next day after the abduction there was actually a ransom call that went into Domino's," said Don Abar of the Marion County District Attorney's Office.

Investigators suspected Smith because he was a serial killer.

He is already serving two life sentences for the sex slayings of two other young Salem women in separate attacks in 1984. Both were dumped in Salem near the Pudding River. Smith reportedly told police he also hid Eyerly's body in the same area.

Authorities said Tuesday that searches of the area didn't turn up anything - likely because of significant flooding over the past 25 years. Eyerly's body has never been found.

As part of the plea deal, a third life sentence will be tacked on to the two Smith is already serving.


I am surprised that William Scott Smith confessed to killing Sherry because when seeing the UM broadcast, I always believed the killer Darryl killed Sherry and then committed suicide.
I had no idea Sherry Iberly's killer was still alive and in prison now and William Scott Smith is the killer.

carebears
11-27-2010, 03:50 PM
Hello,
I am new to this sight. I have often wondered about a story that was on UM and I hope that someone here might know of an update to it.

Years ago a saw a story about a soft spoken elderly man that was seperated from his sister as a small boy. The sister was going to be adopted. He was taken to the adoptive home to try to get his baby sister to bond with the adoptive parents then he was taken away. He wanted to reunite with his sister.

I do not recall his name but I have never been able to forget his story. Everytime I have seen UM since I have hoped that they might have an update about him.

I hope someone knows whatever happened with him?


I believe the lost love you are talking about is Donald looking for his sister named Dolourous. I have never heard any updates on the case.

melskie007
12-02-2010, 07:31 AM
Crystaldawn, thanks for the updates!

crystaldawn
12-02-2010, 09:42 AM
Crystaldawn, thanks for the updates!

You're welcome...:)

Breakaway
12-02-2010, 09:58 PM
I believe the lost love you are talking about is Donald looking for his sister named Dolourous. I have never heard any updates on the case.The man's name was Donald Stradt. His sister was named Delores. After her adoption she was re-named Penelope. They were reunited in 1992.

Thiussat
01-22-2011, 10:32 PM
Some creepy,obsessed person,who for whatever reason recorded every single episode of UM (like I should have,course I was about 5 when the show first aired).

I will be your knight if that is you in your avatar! :happyface

soilentgreen
02-17-2011, 12:47 PM
A possible break in Joyce Chiang's death is in "The Other Intern" thread.

UnsolvedMFanatic
02-17-2011, 08:13 PM
I will be your knight if that is you in your avatar! :happyface
Well yes,it's me...but I'm actually really very ugly without any makeup on.Epically ugly.

You got the goods? This must be what crack addicts feel like when they are about score a big...big whatever it is that they buy,(what that stuff comes in like a bag,or a rock or something?)

Anyway,yeah,it's me. And so....are you my knight?:woohoo:

Jbilly85
04-12-2011, 04:13 PM
Jesse James Hollywood got Life without Parole...

Randolph Dial died in prison

They still have Bobbi Parker, who they say helped Randolph Dial escape, in court proceedings. She is being charged with aiding Randolph Dial in his 1994 escape from the prison in Granite, Oklahoma.

Gary and Ted Noble did their time for robbery (3 to 15 years).

Jon
06-22-2011, 10:27 PM
Do any of you know if this is credible? I recently watched the UM segment on Patricia Meehan, and I found this on the unsolved mysteries wiki:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Patricia_Meehan

Results: Unsolved. In 2011, police released a composite of a Jane Doe found in British Columbia. Bloggers on the forum "Websluths" recognized it as possibly being Patricia. One of the bloggers sent in this tip to the police. More info coming up.

idol
06-23-2011, 10:50 AM
Do any of you know if this is credible? I recently watched the UM segment on Patricia Meehan, and I found this on the unsolved mysteries wiki:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Patricia_Meehan

Results: Unsolved. In 2011, police released a composite of a Jane Doe found in British Columbia. Bloggers on the forum "Websluths" recognized it as possibly being Patricia. One of the bloggers sent in this tip to the police. More info coming up.

Will be interesting to see if it is Patricia.

unslvd mr e
06-27-2011, 04:08 PM
hi, this is one of my favorite unsolved mysteries segments. at first i thought it was carol, but she was shot in her face. but this episode is like "carol" since both horrors took place out in the country side.

-Its about a man whose wife has gone missing...
-She was found killed in the country, in a car accident but some say it was setup.
-at her house the door was open, the bathtub water was still running!
-strange events at her house and her car accident.

thought i would ask someone on sitcumsonline. do you know the name of the segment? thanks

crystaldawn
06-27-2011, 06:04 PM
hi, this is one of my favorite unsolved mysteries segments. at first i thought it was carol, but she was shot in her face. but this episode is like "carol" since both horrors took place out in the country side.

-Its about a man whose wife has gone missing...
-She was found killed in the country, in a car accident but some say it was setup.
-at her house the door was open, the bathtub water was still running!
-strange events at her house and her car accident.

thought i would ask someone on sitcumsonline. do you know the name of the segment? thanks

The victim's name was Aileen Conway. There are a lot of threads dedicated to discussing that case on here. :)

synthisislab
06-29-2011, 05:07 AM
So I just heard that they finally got Whitey Bulger, which solves a few UM segments and I also saw that they solved Joyce Chiang and Chandra Levy's murders, which solves another couple cases. So have they solved any other ones in the past couple years or are there any other updates in that time period?

crystaldawn
06-30-2011, 06:50 AM
So I just heard that they finally got Whitey Bulger, which solves a few UM segments and I also saw that they solved Joyce Chiang and Chandra Levy's murders, which solves another couple cases. So have they solved any other ones in the past couple years or are there any other updates in that time period?

As far as recent updates, Mafhouz Huq was finally captured earlier this year in India. Of course you probably know the Bobby & Christi Baskins were found in the last few years but still refuse to have any contact with their parents. Christopher Chichester has now officially been charged with John Sohus' murder.

http://backbay.patch.com/articles/rockefeller-impostors-extradition-delayed-3

Irishlisa
07-01-2011, 02:03 AM
I am new But i read all the Threads and one stood out in my mind the case of Tony Alamo who was Caught in 2009 and is rotting in jail i think...anyway I lived in Calif in the town Tony set up his cult. he actually
had members of his commune build the bleachers at my high school.

My dad was the local preacher and he was concerned over the amount of young people that were being lured into his church..mind you this was the early 70s only a few yrs after The Manson murders. So my Dad not being afraid of anyone decided to pay this preacher a surprise visit and he took me along i was about 11 or 12. Tony welcome my dad in and My dad was honest and said he just wanted to make sure the teenagers were safe. Tony was nice and gracious to my dad. The thing i recall the most is the church was in a barn and everyone was barefoot and very hippy like(and he was good looking). it wasn't till yrs later when i was watching coverage of the cult in Arkansas i realized it was the same Tony i had meet as a child.
I think Tony like so many Charismatic preachers Started out with good intention but somewhere along the way and for whatever reason they got warped and ended up being sick sadistic people. Another weird thing
he also use to cart Susan's body with him when he traveled When he fled Arkansas he broke open her crypt and took her body(though i read he did return her body to her relatives at a later date)

anyway i didnt mean to go on but wanted to post he had been caught and share my story

WishfulDreamer
07-01-2011, 01:59 PM
So I just heard that they finally got Whitey Bulger, which solves a few UM segments and I also saw that they solved Joyce Chiang and Chandra Levy's murders, which solves another couple cases. So have they solved any other ones in the past couple years or are there any other updates in that time period?

I thought they solved only Chandra's murder? :confused: Did I miss a big update?

crystaldawn
07-02-2011, 07:19 AM
I thought they solved only Chandra's murder? :confused: Did I miss a big update?

DC Police Classify 1999 Death of Joyce Chiang as Homicide
Updated: Friday, 13 May 2011, 5:47 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 13 May 2011, 11:17 AM EDT

Paul Wagner
paul.wagner@foxtv.com
By PAUL WAGNER/myfoxdc

WASHINGTON - D.C. Police have closed the book on the mysterious disappearance and death of Joyce Chaing, the INS attorney who vanished from Dupont Circle 12 years ago.

D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said publicly Friday what the Chaing family has waited so long to hear.

Joyce was murdered and the case is now closed.

Roger Chiang, Joyce's brother, choked back tears as he thanked the chief, the detectives and the prosecutor who finally gave his family what they so desperately wanted. An answer to the question: What really happened to Joyce?

Police believe they have identified two men responsible for the crime, but in a very odd twist, the chief declined to name the men or release any details.

It would be understandable, perhaps even justified, if Roger Chiang was a bit more bitter than gracious. After all, at one time, police suggested publicly his sister may have committed suicide. But it wasn't to be.

"To Amanda Haines, Tony Brigidini and Ken Williams, I'm not going to even try to find words for the way our family's hearts feel today," said Roger Chiang at a news conference Friday inside D.C. Police headquarters.

There were handshakes, hugs and thanks all around.

"Chief Lanier, today, you've put that luster on the badge of MPD and my family and I are eternally grateful and perpetually indebted for what you have done to solve this case," said Roger Chiang.

Tony Brigidini and "Todd" Williams are the cold case detectives who picked up the trail a few years ago and identified the two men.

Steve Allen and Neil Joaquin, who police and prosecutors now believe abducted Joyce Chiang, took her to the banks of the Anacostia River where they intended to rob her.

In an effort to get away from her captors, investigators believe Joyce may have slipped on the ice, falling into the river where she drowned.

"We always knew it was a murder,” said friend Amy Well. "There was no way Joyce killed herself. It was a murder. We knew that from day one. That's why we worked so hard to find her.”

Laurie Ann Phillips, who attended Smith College with Chiang added, "I have a very heavy heart today. It’s been 12 long years. There's been some relief in hearing the police chief and ruling this a homicide.”

Roger Chiang says Brigidini and Williams began investigating Allen and Joaquin after a series of jail house interviews. The two were arrested for a kidnapping in Georgetown three months after Joyce disappeared.

But it would be nearly 10 years before police considered them suspects in the abduction of Joyce Chiang.

"Good day for this family," said America's Most Wanted Host John Walsh.

In addition to all of the supporters who attended the announcement, Walsh, who is Roger Chaing's boss, was there as well.

"Justice delayed is not justice denied,” said Walsh.

Allen is in federal custody serving life in prison. Joaquin is believed to be in Guyana where he was deported in 2006.

The case will not be going to court. Instead, it is being closed administratively, meaning police and prosecutors believe they have enough evidence for arrest warrants, but not enough evidence to support a conviction.



Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/dc/dc-police-classify-1999-death-of-joyce-chiang-as-homicide-051311#ixzz1QwhbUFEa

synthisislab
07-03-2011, 01:24 PM
As far as recent updates, Mafhouz Huq was finally captured earlier this year in India. Of course you probably know the Bobby & Christi Baskins were found in the last few years but still refuse to have any contact with their parents. Christopher Chichester has now officially been charged with John Sohus' murder.

http://backbay.patch.com/articles/rockefeller-impostors-extradition-delayed-3
WOW so they finally nabbed Mafhouz Huq. That's great news. So was he extradited to the US yet? Are there anymore details to that update like has he talked at all or plead out or anything?

Geez, the grandparents must have did a great job brainwashing the Baskin kids. Did the kids say anything as to why they won't contact the parents? Like did the grandparents tell them lies like the parents molested and/or physically abused them or something awful like that?

I wonder what Christopher Chichester did with Linda Sohus. I sure hope they can put together a solid case on that creep for murdering John at least.

crystaldawn
07-05-2011, 06:47 AM
WOW so they finally nabbed Mafhouz Huq. That's great news. So was he extradited to the US yet? Are there anymore details to that update like has he talked at all or plead out or anything?

Geez, the grandparents must have did a great job brainwashing the Baskin kids. Did the kids say anything as to why they won't contact the parents? Like did the grandparents tell them lies like the parents molested and/or physically abused them or something awful like that?

I wonder what Christopher Chichester did with Linda Sohus. I sure hope they can put together a solid case on that creep for murdering John at least.

Huq is going to be extradited but not sure if its happened yet:
http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?id=187386&cid=2

I'm assuming the Baskins "kids" must have been brainwashed and still believe their parents are evil. As far as I know they haven't granted any interviews. Not sure if you knew this but the grandmother died years back and the grandfather barely got a slap on the wrists for kidnapping them.

I think they should do a more thorough search on the Sohus property. I wouldn't be surprised if Linda wasn't too far from where John was found. Last I heard he was fighting extradition to California.

1990 UM fan
07-14-2011, 09:17 PM
Huq is going to be extradited but not sure if its happened yet:
http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?id=187386&cid=2

I'm assuming the Baskins "kids" must have been brainwashed and still believe their parents are evil. As far as I know they haven't granted any interviews. Not sure if you knew this but the grandmother died years back and the grandfather barely got a slap on the wrists for kidnapping them.

I think they should do a more thorough search on the Sohus property. I wouldn't be surprised if Linda wasn't too far from where John was found. Last I heard he was fighting extradition to California.

That case with Mahfuz Huq happened only a year before I was born, and in the same state I was born in too. Hope he gets what's coming to him for murdering Todd Kelley. I still don't see why the Baskin kids don't want to have anything to do with their biological parents. Didn't they watch the episode about their own kidnapping and learn that their parents didn't do anything bad to them and only wanted them safely returned? As for Linda Sohus, there's a few things I believe happened. Either she witnessed her husband's murder and was killed too, or she was in on it and is still alive and somewhere else in the US or in another country. Anyhow, someone should tell the San Marino police to inspect the old Sohus property again, maybe they'll find something else of significance after all these years.

WishfulDreamer
03-11-2012, 07:29 PM
Not sure how much of an update this is, but I just thought I would pass this along. I did a little checking places, and would you believe Kevin Snyder and Bean Baxter are STILL employed at KROQ in Los Angeles, CA?! That's just wrong. Those 2 should have been fired about 15 years ago when their hoax was revealed, and shouldn't be able to work in radio again. All they got was a five day suspension. The way they played with so many people's emotions is just wrong. I was even more depressed to learn that they get a lot of celebrities on their show. I wonder if those celebrities are aware of what happened.

In the original UM segment, Snyder said that, when asked point blank if it was a hoax, "There are certain lines you just don't cross." I thought "you lowlife, you knew all along it wasn't true."

A check of their profile on wikipedia reveals that they've had other lawsuits/controversies. They issued a crank call to French President Jacques Shirac, who actually came on the phone at one point, they've been slapped with at least a few different lawsuits that alleged wrongful termniation of an employee due to religious and racial discrimination and failure to deliver a prize (an SUV) that was won. They've also told listeners about concerts that never existed and many people scrambled to find where they were only to learn it wasn't true.

For those of you who might be unfamiliar with the segment, Snyder and Baxter conspired with another dj (a Doug Roberts in Phoenix, AZ, who sadly enough, later found employment with KROQ) to hoax a confession on air. Roberts stated that he murdered his girlfriend. The whole thing was a publicity stunt.

I have no idea how they thought they were going to get away with that. Since many people have heard Dick Roberts voice, and that Phoenix is in a state that neighbors LA's state, one would figure somone would recognize his voice, particluarly since there are so many people in L.A., unless Roberts disguised his voice.

Oy vey.

I live in L.A. and KROQ is massively popular. I do like the music selection a lot of the time, bu I still intensely dislike Ryder and Baxter. I heard them the other night and told my roommate and her boyfriend (fans) about their unsavory hoax. They agreed that the two men are incredibly lame (in other words) for what they've done.

Hasho
03-29-2012, 05:49 PM
June 27, 2006
COLD CASE CLOSED AFTER ALMOST TWENTY YEARS
Investigation Points to Murder
BISMARCK – Kathy Bonderson’s death has been a mystery for almost twenty years,
but today, her family has some answers. Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem
announced that the Cold Case Investigations team had uncovered enough evidence to
conclude that Kathy was murdered.
On October 25, 1987, the body of 35 year old Kathryn Jean Bonderson was discovered
in a burning vehicle just north of New Rockford. Initially the death was determined to be
a traffic fatality, but a later autopsy revealed that Kathy was dead before the vehicle fire.
By that time, however, the evidence was cold.
“Kathy’s family and friends never believed she was killed in a freak accident, and they
have waited nearly twenty years for the truth to be uncovered. The investigation is
complete. We are now confident that some time during the early morning hours of
October 25, 1987, Kathy was murdered by her husband, Robert Bonderson. Whether
he killed her in a cold and calculated act, or in the heat of an argument, we will never
know for certain,” said Stenehjem.
Kathy’s case file remained open until it was chosen as the first case for review by the
Attorney General’s Cold Case Investigations team. The team, which was formed in
November 2005, includes two active BCI agents as well as retired agents and
investigators. The team worked closely with the Eddy County sheriff’s office and Eddy
County state’s attorney Travis Peterson during their investigation.
The Cold Case investigators reviewed the police reports and autopsy records from
1987. To better understand the events of October 25
th
and the vehicle damage, the
investigators reviewed the police reports, witness statements, evidence and
photographs. They interviewed Kathy’s family and friends, and re-interviewed potential
witnesses. The autopsy showed Kathy died before the fire and that there were injuries
to her neck and throat that were not consistent with a vehicle accident or fire. The cold
case investigation provided new information and fresh leads.
Investigators learned that during the evening of October 24th, Robert and Kathy argued.
Later that night Robert drove out of town, at one point passing his stepson, Jamie, and
his girlfriend. In the early morning hours of October 25
th
, the family’s 1974 Ford Torino
was found engulfed in flames on the side of a gravel road north of New Rockford.
Kathy’s body was on the floor of the passenger side. Crime lab reports indicate there
was gasoline residue in the passenger compartment of the vehicle. An almost empty
container of gasoline was discovered in a field between the burning vehicle and theedge of New Rockford. Although the investigation could not determine the exact cause
of Kathy’s death, it did rule out a vehicle accident or fire as the cause.
Robert later moved to Thermopolis, Wyoming and married his girlfriend. In February
2006, the Cold Case Investigators contacted Robert to explain the work they were doing
to investigate Kathy’s death. They made arrangements to interview him about the
events of twenty years ago. On the day he was supposed to meet with the investigators,
Robert disappeared. He left behind his wallet containing cash and credit cards.
Investigators worked with authorities in Wyoming to track Robert’s bank and credit card
accounts, but there was no activity after the date he disappeared.
Robert’s body was discovered in April in a remote location in the Montana mountains. It
appears he had killed himself rather than face questioning about Kathy’s death.
“Robert Bonderson played the part of a grieving husband, but not well enough. He tried
to cover up the truth but eventually his lies were unraveled – and that proved to be too
much for him to live with,” said Stenehjem. “There is no statute of limitations on murder
and he would have been forced to answer for his crime. Robert took his guilt to the
grave but at least now Kathy can rest in peace.”
The Cold Case Investigation team presented its report of the investigation to Eddy
County State’s Attorney Travis Peterson.
Peterson determined that, had he been alive, there was probable cause to arrest Robert
and place him on trial for Kathy’s murder. “Based on the evidence gathered by the
Bureau of Criminal Investigation and the Eddy County Sheriff’s Department, it appears
Mr. Bonderson was the primary suspect and responsible for Kathy’s death,” said
Peterson.
Eddy County Sheriff Larry Schagunn said, “I appreciate the work the Bureau of Criminal
Investigation did in this case. The agents were professional and determined. I am also
grateful for the formation of the Cold Case team that was set up by the Attorney
General. It is a fantastic job to be able to answer a lot of the questions and frustrations
for Kathy’s family and friends.”
Stenehjem also thanked Sheriff Schagunn and the BCI investigators who worked on the
case for the countless hours and extraordinary effort they had put into the investigation.
Kathy Bonderson’s murder was the first case reviewed by the Attorney General’s Cold
Case Investigations team. The team is currently reviewing several other cases at the
request of local law enforcement agencies.