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G-Force Glockstar
05-12-2006, 04:59 PM
and I could cry.....we were talking about getting me a nose job (since it has a big bump on it and is kinda cricket), but my doctor told me we can't do it for another WHOLE year because I'm not fully grown and mature yet, plus I need to raise my self esteem and how I feel on the inside about myself. And my parents said I won't be able to get it until I change my inside.
It's not fair!! I have the lowest self esteem in the world--because it's true, I AM UGLY and getting plastic sugery WILL make me feel better about myself!!
Now I have to go my first year of High School still being as ugly as hell!!
I HATE MYSELF!

:crying:

Michael [hXc]
05-12-2006, 05:00 PM
no offense, but if you get plastic surgery, kids will most likely make fun of you for that too, because you base your self esteem only on how you look. :(

Shine
05-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Nikki, you are way too young to have plastic surgery. I hope that you don't take offense to this, but you are just a little girl. Besides, plastic surgery is not going to help you with your self-esteem. A person who doesn't like themself isn't going to like themself no matter what they look like.

Ireneparalegal
05-12-2006, 05:20 PM
and I could cry.....we were talking about getting me a nose job (since it has a big bump on it and is kinda cricket), but my doctor told me we can't do it for another WHOLE year because I'm not fully grown and mature yet, plus I need to raise my self esteem and how I feel on the inside about myself. And my parents said I won't be able to get it until I change my inside.
It's not fair!! I have the lowest self esteem in the world--because it's true, I AM UGLY and getting plastic sugery WILL make me feel better about myself!!
Now I have to go my first year of High School still being as ugly as hell!!
I HATE MYSELF!

:crying:
You are what? 14? OMG...when i was 14 and I am sure a lot of people felt this way, I had an issue with different parts of my body. I had an issue with a slight bump on my nose. I would try my darndest to cover it with my hand or anything. All that did was draw attention to how stupid I was appearing. It wasn't until I hit 17 that I realized the only person who had an issue with that small bump was me! Guys didn't care. They saw the overall me and that's when I realized how stupid i was for feeling so low abt myself. I remember this one guy told me how he loved my face, especially my smile. God, now if that doesn't make you forget your nose, nothing will. Not even a plastic surgeon. I used to focus on such a small thing and didn't realize all the other things abt myself. Not just physical attributes but the inside. You will see when you are older how much of a deal you made out of it.

G-Force Glockstar
05-12-2006, 05:33 PM
Yeah, but I have a....deformed face, kind of. My nose isn't right, one of my cheekbones is bigger than the other, my lips are a little lopsided, and more......:(

I love coming here to SO because I can talk to anyone, and not be afraid of them thinking about my ugly face. Online is the only place I feel good.

Michael [hXc]
05-12-2006, 05:35 PM
i have a bump on my nose too, and once i complained to my friend about it and he said "really? i never noticed!" people probably don't even notice these problems you notice about your face.

Ireneparalegal
05-12-2006, 05:43 PM
Yeah, but I have a....deformed face, kind of. My nose isn't right, one of my cheekbones is bigger than the other, my lips are a little lopsided, and more......:(

I love coming here to SO because I can talk to anyone, and not be afraid of them thinking about my ugly face. Online is the only place I feel good.
This may sound like a cliche to you, but those who mock or make fun of you are only trying to distract from them ugly selves. Or, they are trying to look good in front of their friends, just basically going along with the crowd. Those cowards wouldn't know beauty if it was sh**tted on their head by a seagull!
If it's really an issue that you do want to tackle, then take the advice of your plastic sugeon and give it the one year waiting period. Believe me, it will go by fast. Allow that short amt of time to be the thing that makes you happy. It's not like they told you NO! NEVER! Just allow your face to physically change so that the doctor can work with it. The doctor doesn't want to work on something that will continue to change, mature, grow, etc.

KristinHerreraFan
05-12-2006, 06:01 PM
Nikki, I am sooooooooooooooo sorry!!!! :hug: We're always here for you! :)

As for being made fun of, I know the feeling, the same happens with me (not for being ugly, but for my personality) and i's tough :(

As for people saying your ugly, don't dare let that get to you, it's the inside that counts, you still have a strong character, and thats good, the only people who'd tell you you're ugly, are the ones who can't admit, that they're ugly aswell.

MaydayMalonesGirl
05-12-2006, 06:27 PM
It's not fair!! I have the lowest self esteem in the world--because it's true, I AM UGLY and getting plastic sugery WILL make me feel better about myself!!Now I have to go my first year of High School still being as ugly as hell!!
I HATE MYSELF!

i'm truly sorry that you are going through all of this, i can completely relate. high school is horrible. people can bull**** and say it's "inside that counts" or whatever, but in high school most kids are stupid and judge a person solely on their looks. it's what makes school misrable for me. i loathe everything about myself. it's a horrible feeling, especially when there is no one around you to lean on.

Tuesday Weld
05-12-2006, 07:12 PM
Nikki, I know how it feels to dislike your looks, but you really are way too young to have plastic surgery and I'm only saying this to help, but you should accept yourself for who you are and not who you think you should be. I'm sure you aren't ugly, anyway. I do know the feeling, though and I'm sorry that you're going through such a rough time with it. :( :hug:

Hollow
05-12-2006, 07:21 PM
you're way too young to do such a thing; not only because of your age, but your doctor is right, you're still growing. it would be unhealthy on many levels.

and listen to me: you're going to notice your imperfections more than anyone else will. it's the straight truth for everyone.

Courtnee
05-12-2006, 08:27 PM
and listen to me: you're going to notice your imperfections more than anyone else will. it's the straight truth for everyone.
a-****ing-men

EmoJoe
05-12-2006, 08:37 PM
you're way too young to do such a thing; not only because of your age, but your doctor is right, you're still growing. it would be unhealthy on many levels.

and listen to me: you're going to notice your imperfections more than anyone else will. it's the straight truth for everyone.
:nod:

dawsongirl
05-12-2006, 09:36 PM
Look how much the media is putting Ashlee Simpson out there for supposedly getting a nose job. I don't think you want to go thru that now.

There are ways to raise your self-esteem without plastic surgery. Look around at other people's noses. Many, many people have ugly noses, uglier than yours. Maybe realizing that will help you realize that your crooked nose is actually not that bad.

James"Thunder"Early
05-12-2006, 10:19 PM
Plastic surgery isn't for people you age. And it's also a very bad idea to do it for the reasons you are doing it. Besides, it's might make matters worse if you don't like the after result.

Janice Johnson
05-12-2006, 10:34 PM
Girl Meets World, i thought that you were going to say that your plastic surgeon did plastic surgery on you and now that the surgeon is done you look like you have no face at all!:lol: I am sorry, but I heard that on the radio. A guy had work done on his face and the surgeon took away his face. The guy said, "I have no face" ina congested sounding voice):lol:

sara
05-12-2006, 10:59 PM
It's not fair!! I have the lowest self esteem in the world--because it's true, I AM UGLY and getting plastic sugery WILL make me feel better about myself!!
Now I have to go my first year of High School still being as ugly as hell!!
I HATE MYSELF!:crying:
You shouldn't expect plastic surgery to be a cure all. Plastic surgery might fix your nose, but if you have low self esteem going in you'll have low self esteem going out. Maybe you should talk to a therapist, that would probably help more than any surgery would.

evilNpunk
05-12-2006, 11:48 PM
You're plastic surgeon is right though, you are still growing, and if he did surgery now you might have to go through it again in a couple years.
I'm sorry you feel that way about yourself, but everyone goes through a phase where they are insecure, some worse than others. You should probably talk to some of your friends about it, and I'm sure they'll reassure you that your nose isnt as bad as you think. And if your friends are the ones nitpicking at your appearance and causing your insecurity, you should get new friends.

swedeace
05-13-2006, 01:31 AM
Yeah, but I have a....deformed face, kind of. My nose isn't right, one of my cheekbones is bigger than the other, my lips are a little lopsided, and more......:(
Nikki, we are our own worst critics. We can be TOO hard on ourselves. As american_non_idiot mentioned, often times others do not see what we see on ourselves. Others tend to focus more on other things that make us unique. This explains why we can't understand why certain celebrities or even people we may know in real life discuss getting plastic surgery and we think, "Huh??? What was wrong with them?" The best advice is to not focus on your own looks, and get away from being hard on yourself. Just don't focus on it as much. If you find yourself doing so, try to make a mental list of stuff you DO like about yourself. Maybe that will help. :)

Also, please keep in mind that even getting what YOU want in life isn't going to mean you will automatically raise your self esteem or even be the happiest person in the world. It is not that easy. There will always be things in our lives we won't be happy with. It's just all a part of life, and it's best to try and love ourselves for being unique individuals. Afterall, others should love us for us, right?

80sTrivia
05-13-2006, 07:36 AM
I can really empathize with you, Nikki. I had my nose broken during a softball game as a kid and my nose healed slightly crooked and had a noticeable bump on the bridge. I was also very self-conscious about my nose and wanted plastic surgery as well. I finally did have the corrective surgery when I was almost twenty-years-old. The procedure itself was not pleasant at all and I did go through quite a bit of pain and discomfort for several days, so the surgery isn't a walk in the park and is indeed serious. As difficult as it may be to hear, the doctor knows best when telling you to wait several more years until your nose is fully developed for your face before any surgery can be performed. I wish you the best of luck...

ponytail
05-13-2006, 08:53 AM
14 is an awkward age. When I was 14, I was so skinny and taller than everyone else. I had long stringy hair. Boys made fun of me. I had no self esteem at all. But I survived. I'm still skinny and taller than most people, but as someone once told me "They are one of the many, you are one of the choosen few". Don't beat up yourself.

robyrob
05-13-2006, 11:30 AM
I just got back from my plastic surgeon.....

...and boy are my chins tired! [/rickles]

G-Force Glockstar
05-13-2006, 09:50 PM
Thanks, everyone.....I feel a little better now, it's just I'm really struggling a lot. I'm not a normal person and my face is a little bit deformed.

But it means a lot to me that you guys care :)
Thanks! :)

JT
07-09-2006, 06:44 PM
and I could cry.....we were talking about getting me a nose job (since it has a big bump on it and is kinda cricket), but my doctor told me we can't do it for another WHOLE year because I'm not fully grown and mature yet, plus I need to raise my self esteem and how I feel on the inside about myself. And my parents said I won't be able to get it until I change my inside.
It's not fair!! I have the lowest self esteem in the world--because it's true, I AM UGLY and getting plastic sugery WILL make me feel better about myself!!
Now I have to go my first year of High School still being as ugly as hell!!
I HATE MYSELF!

:crying:
This is going to make me sound mean, insensitive, and just plain cruel, but honestly, if I don't say this, it'll stay inside of me will be worse if it comes out later on, but...

ARE YOU FRICKIN CRAZY!?

Ever since you joined SO, you've complained and complained complained about your physical appearance and people have been trying their damnedest to help you through everything, but you keep on saying and complaining about things that we've all tried hard to keep you from thinking about.

Tell me, does the idea of anorexia, just for a "little while," still sound good to you!? Because if you are still considering that, I have absolutely nothing to say. Absolutely nothing to say, except that you need to wake up, get over yourself, and realize that you are a teenage girl who is going through puberty.

Courtnee
07-09-2006, 07:08 PM
Many, many people have ugly noses, uglier than yours. Maybe realizing that will help you realize that your crooked nose is actually not that bad.

X2

Czas na Zywiec
07-09-2006, 07:11 PM
People who have plastic surgery are weak imo, and taking the eawsy way out. You grow to love yourself. I used to hate the way I looked a few years back, but now that I'm 21 I've finally grown into myself. Unless you have some freak accident where your face peels off of your head, plastic surgery is nothing but the cowards way out.

Hollow
07-09-2006, 07:22 PM
This is going to make me sound mean, insensitive, and just plain cruel, but honestly, if I don't say this, it'll stay inside of me will be worse if it comes out later on, but...

ARE YOU FRICKIN CRAZY!?

Ever since you joined SO, you've complained and complained complained about your physical appearance and people have been trying their damnedest to help you through everything, but you keep on saying and complaining about things that we've all tried hard to keep you from thinking about.

Tell me, does the idea of anorexia, just for a "little while," still sound good to you!? Because if you are still considering that, I have absolutely nothing to say. Absolutely nothing to say, except that you need to wake up, get over yourself, and realize that you are a teenage girl who is going through puberty.
you went back and dug up a thread from TWO MONTHS AGO to bitch and whine and vent at her? no matter how or untrue what you're saying is, you're just opening another can of worms. she's already being attacked in another current thread; bumping this thread up was anything but necessary. just leave her alone if that's how you're going to deal with her.

Mr. Stefani
07-09-2006, 07:25 PM
People who have plastic surgery are weak imo, and taking the eawsy way out. You grow to love yourself. I used to hate the way I looked a few years back, but now that I'm 21 I've finally grown into myself. Unless you have some freak accident where your face peels off of your head, plastic surgery is nothing but the cowards way out.

i dont agree. if you can improve something that you dont like about yourself, why not? you just have to do it for the right reasons. i mean why even get something as simple as braces if you can grow to love your messed up teeth?

Czas na Zywiec
07-09-2006, 07:35 PM
i dont agree. if you can improve something that you dont like about yourself, why not? you just have to do it for the right reasons. i mean why even get something as simple as braces if you can grow to love your messed up teeth?

I think you can spend the money in much better ways. But then again, this is coming from someone who barely has any, so I had to go through it the hard way. I'm still not a fan of it, tho.

JT
07-09-2006, 07:36 PM
you went back and dug up a thread from TWO MONTHS AGO to bitch and whine and vent at her? no matter how or untrue what you're saying is, you're just opening another can of worms. she's already being attacked in another current thread; bumping this thread up was anything but necessary. just leave her alone if that's how you're going to deal with her.
Well, excuse the hell out of me. A friend linked it to me in IM and I thought it was a recent thread, so I replied to it.

And it's not my fault that she constantly makes threads where she is attacked. She should have realized a long time ago that when you tell people that you want to start smoking, go see a plastic surgeon, or start to starve yourself WHEN YOU ARE ONLY 14 YEARS OLD, people will try anything to set her straight.

Sharop
07-09-2006, 07:45 PM
WHEN YOU ARE ONLY 14 YEARS OLD,

Nikki is 15; she had her birthday on 22nd June.

Let's all calm down now.

Hollow
07-09-2006, 08:05 PM
Well, excuse the hell out of me. A friend linked it to me in IM and I thought it was a recent thread, so I replied to it.

And it's not my fault that she constantly makes threads where she is attacked. She should have realized a long time ago that when you tell people that you want to start smoking, go see a plastic surgeon, or start to starve yourself WHEN YOU ARE ONLY 14 YEARS OLD, people will try anything to set her straight.
the point i was making about the smoking thread is that no one had any right to attack her for any reason in it. it was A SIMPLE QUESTION; nothing more, nothing less, and she's done nothing to deserve to be told to go smoke and destroy herself, sarcastically or unsarcastically. she stated throughout the thread that she wanted to lose weight, who cares? she wasn't crying and whining about how she hates herself and wants to die over it or anything.

I heard it does.....and it increases your metabolism.

I'm not thinking about doing it, I was just curious about it. If smoking didn't damage your body, I'd do it.

Penny Lane
07-09-2006, 08:09 PM
My sister has a small (she doesn't think so) hump on her nose inherited from her grandmother. She used to be so self-conscience of it when she was a teen. But to tell the truth I personally never noticed it. She was and is a very pretty girl. Some jerk mentioned it to her once and ever since has been very embarassed by it. But believe me she is still (in her 40's now) a very pretty woman. She is now proud of inheriting her gandmother's nose. She never met her as she was dead years before her my sister's birth. Plastic surgery is a drastic step. I hope you will reconsider this.Believe me. we ALL have physical things that we do not like. Personally when I was young(many moons ago) I thought I was absolutely ugly and undesireable. But my husband tells me that he always thought that I was very pretty. So I take his word for it.:lol:
Love is blind I guess!:lol: But this is so true. What we as women think is unattractive is not so in the eyes in the eyes of the one who truly loves you. Or in most cases the eyes of others. I struggled with this for years! It's a crock of doodoo!:wave:

JT
07-09-2006, 08:52 PM
the point i was making about the smoking thread is that no one had any right to attack her for any reason in it. it was A SIMPLE QUESTION; nothing more, nothing less, and she's done nothing to deserve to be told to go smoke and destroy herself, sarcastically or unsarcastically. she stated throughout the thread that she wanted to lose weight, who cares? she wasn't crying and whining about how she hates herself and wants to die over it or anything.
Anybody with half a brain knows that she asked the question because she wants to lose weight and thinks smoking might help. And when has the fact that it's damaging to your body ever stopped her from considering things like that before? Hello! Anorexia!

Sharop
07-09-2006, 09:16 PM
Anybody with half a brain knows that she asked the question because she wants to lose weight and thinks smoking might help.

I have 9.49 brains.

All the same, I think people should go easy on Nikki. Some people have been quite rude to her in the past.

TheGreatPretender
07-09-2006, 09:44 PM
"My cheekbone is a little higher"?

Um just to let you know no one's face is perfectly symmetrical, we all have little nicks or errors, unless you're a painting.

KristinHerreraFan
07-09-2006, 10:11 PM
Well, excuse the hell out of me. A friend linked it to me in IM and I thought it was a recent thread, so I replied to it.

And it's not my fault that she constantly makes threads where she is attacked. She should have realized a long time ago that when you tell people that you want to start smoking, go see a plastic surgeon, or start to starve yourself WHEN YOU ARE ONLY 14 YEARS OLD, people will try anything to set her straight.

She needs ADVICE, and WE'RE HERE TO GIVE IT TO HER, not to bash her or get all over her for creating threads asking for opinions/adivce. It's not a crime to create a thread about these kinds of things, and no she is not asking to get attacked, she is asking for help, advice and opinions, nothing more. She has done nothing to you, so all you are doing is starting something that never was here to begin with.

I could seriously box your ears right now, how big of a jerk can you get?

JT
07-09-2006, 11:33 PM
She needs ADVICE, and WE'RE HERE TO GIVE IT TO HER, not to bash her or get all over her for creating threads asking for opinions/adivce. It's not a crime to create a thread about these kinds of things, and no she is not asking to get attacked, she is asking for help, advice and opinions, nothing more. She has done nothing to you, so all you are doing is starting something that never was here to begin with.

I could seriously box your ears right now, how big of a jerk can you get?
She's been asking advice on this same thing for well over a year now, and everyone who gives her "advice" basically repeats themselves in every thread, telling her soothing things and giving her warm fuzzies. I have absolutely no problem with that at all, hell, I myself was trying to help her past the anorexia thing, but when I gave her numerous links to Karen Carpenter websites and showed her pictures of it all, she just brushed it off and said "That's sad" and continued on quest to starve herself. I'm sorry, but I've devoted too much time in reading and comprehending the story of Karen and other anorexia patients to just let someone consciously consider making the decision to willingly do that to themselves.

But the fact of the matter is, this has been going on for months on end and it apparently gets nowhere. It would be different if she understood that if she wants to lose weight, diet and exercise are the only healthy ways to go. Smoking, anorexia and other selfish shortcuts won't do it.

I have no problem with her asking for advice at all, hell, as an aspiring advice columnist, I encourage her to, but the thing is, if you're going to continuously ignore the advice and do what you want, what's the point of asking for it in the first place?

TheGreatPretender
07-09-2006, 11:37 PM
The funny and fortunate thing about this whole fiasco is she has been obsessing over this type of stuff for over a year and she still isn't anorexic or smoking or a victim of plastic surgery (from what we've heard at least). That's something all tweens go through they talk about or think about doing stuff but fortuneatly it's just a phase and they eventually get over it.

JT
07-09-2006, 11:46 PM
The funny and fortunate thing about this whole fiasco is she has been obsessing over this type of stuff for over a year and she still isn't anorexic or smoking or a victim of plastic surgery (from what we've heard at least). That's something all tweens go through they talk about or think about doing stuff but fortuneatly it's just a phase and they eventually get over it.
The very fact that she thinks about it and obsesses over it is enough of a problem, I think. Because if she's obsessing over things like that, and has been for over a year, she then suffers from depression, which could be just as worst as the smoking and starving if it isn't handled.

Hollow
07-10-2006, 12:23 AM
She's been asking advice on this same thing for well over a year now, and everyone who gives her "advice" basically repeats themselves in every thread, telling her soothing things and giving her warm fuzzies. I have absolutely no problem with that at all, hell, I myself was trying to help her past the anorexia thing, but when I gave her numerous links to Karen Carpenter websites and showed her pictures of it all, she just brushed it off and said "That's sad" and continued on quest to starve herself. I'm sorry, but I've devoted too much time in reading and comprehending the story of Karen and other anorexia patients to just let someone consciously consider making the decision to willingly do that to themselves.

But the fact of the matter is, this has been going on for months on end and it apparently gets nowhere. It would be different if she understood that if she wants to lose weight, diet and exercise are the only healthy ways to go. Smoking, anorexia and other selfish shortcuts won't do it.

I have no problem with her asking for advice at all, hell, as an aspiring advice columnist, I encourage her to, but the thing is, if you're going to continuously ignore the advice and do what you want, what's the point of asking for it in the first place?
you keep insisting that she's interested in smoking; if you want to assume that she did consider it then alrighty, but nothing takes away her right to just ask a question. she's also stated that she doesn't want to starve herself or try bulimia anymore, so there's not much reason to give her **** for that.

And when has the fact that it's damaging to your body ever stopped her from considering things like that before? Hello! Anorexia!
that doesn't give anyone a right to practically tell her to go kill herself as a method of ridding her threads, seriously or unseriously.

the thing is when you're in her place, you look for help (regardlessly of whether you take anyone's advice), and having people make fun of you and bitch at you about it and pretty much let you know that they don't give a damn will only further hurt their feelings, lower their self esteem and make the situation worse. even when someone is just 'kidding' about telling a troubled person to go physically destroy themselves, it may still damn well easily make them feel bad, even if they knew they weren't being completely serious. and it's not like it just takes an idiot for that. that's just human psychology for you. some people here just plain bully her and enjoy making fun of her, and they don't have a god damn idea how much that can contribute to someone's misery, and how much it obviously contributes to hers. yeah yeah, they may be making a good point, but trying to get it across in a sarcastic or cruel way will help nothing.

TheGreatPretender
07-10-2006, 12:27 AM
The very fact that she thinks about it and obsesses over it is enough of a problem, I think. Because if she's obsessing over things like that, and has been for over a year, she then suffers from depression, which could be just as worst as the smoking and starving if it isn't handled.


Well the sad thing is, people here knew last May that she needed phsycological help and suggested seeing a therapist or consular (sp?) numerous and nothing has happened yet. In the end one can only help themselves and most importantly decide to help themselves.

JT
07-10-2006, 12:30 AM
you keep insisting that she's interested in smoking; if you want to assume that she did consider it then alrighty, but nothing takes away her right to just ask a question. she's also stated that she doesn't want to starve herself or try bulimia anymore, so there's not much reason to give her **** for that.


that doesn't give anyone a right to practically tell her to go kill herself as a method of ridding her threads, seriously or unseriously.

the thing is when you're in her place, you look for help (regardlessly of whether you take anyone's advice), and having people make fun of you and bitch at you about it and pretty much let you know that they don't give a damn will only further hurt their feelings, lower their self esteem and make the situation worse. even when someone is just 'kidding' about telling a troubled person to go physically destroy themselves, it may still damn well easily make them feel bad, even if they knew they weren't being completely serious. and it's not like it just takes an idiot for that. that's just human psychology for you. some people here just plain bully her and enjoy making fun of her, and they don't have a god damn idea how much that can contribute to someone's misery, and how much it obviously contributes to hers. yeah yeah, they may be making a good point, but trying to get it across in a sarcastic or cruel way will help nothing.
Of course that doesn't help, which is why I have stayed clear from that smoking thread, other than reading the posts.

And I'm not trying to bitch at her or cause her to spiral even deeper, I just feel that sometimes a swift wake-up call is needed. Trust me, I am not the only one here who feels that way.

cmcb06
07-10-2006, 12:35 AM
Hi,

You know what, we all have our imperfections. ANd majority of us live with them. If people insult you, or make you feel bad for yours. Than their not worth hanging around. You shoudl be proud of who you are. And think of it this way, if you have plastic surgeory it might not turn out well, and you'll regret it for the rest of your life.

JT
07-10-2006, 01:00 AM
Hi,

You know what, we all have our imperfections. ANd majority of us live with them. If people insult you, or make you feel bad for yours. Than their not worth hanging around. You shoudl be proud of who you are. And think of it this way, if you have plastic surgeory it might not turn out well, and you'll regret it for the rest of your life.
Exactly. If you're willing to physically alter your body just to please materialistic people, you need to understand that those people will not mean a thing to you 10 years from now.

dawsongirl
07-10-2006, 01:18 AM
I have no problem with her asking for advice at all, hell, as an aspiring advice columnist, I encourage her to

I am so reading your column.

MsOrange
07-10-2006, 10:02 AM
is anyone realizing how old this thread is? why the hell was it bumped up in the first place?

JT
07-10-2006, 11:30 AM
is anyone realizing how old this thread is? why the hell was it bumped up in the first place?
I'm sorry for bumping it back up. A friend linked me to it and I assumed it was still recent, so I replied to it.