I know everyone agrees that the "Penny being burnt by an Iron" was very unrealistic

[TVFactFan]

No child would be able to deal with the pain of a hot a$$ iron on her back-lol I couldn;t even deal with my Index being burnt by an iron, so you know what would it feel like to have your back burnt by an iron. They could have left the iron part of the storyline out of the script and just stuck to regular physical abuse with her hands or a belt. No child could deal with those type of pain.

[Brian Damage]

It depends how hot the Iron was.

[TVFactFan]

It depends how hot the Iron was.


Oh so someone would adjust the temperature on the iron?-lol Hot is HOT

[Brian Damage]

Hot is hot, but there is temperature settings on the iron. It might not have been Super hot.

[GeorgeWBushGOP]

Just the way she cornered her was abuse.

The use of the iron was implied.

I think that was the message.

[TVFactFan]

Just the way she cornered her was abuse.

The use of the iron was implied.

I think that was the message.


A belt would have been fine, a iron was too over the top

[GeorgeWBushGOP]

Yes. But James used. and threatened the belt all the time so they had to go a step further I suppose.

Or in this case four steps further.


I guess this was one of those days where the power wasn't faulty Unfortunately for Penny. Bookman was on top of things that day.

[TVFactFan]

Yes. But James used. and threatened the belt all the time so they had to go a step further I suppose.

Or in this case four steps further.


I guess this was one of those days where the power wasn't faulty Unfortunately for Penny. Bookman was on top of things that day.


It could have been just her mom pushing her around. I now know that's why i don';t like the episode because of the false reality

[nerrad]

True. It was unrealistic to be burned with an iron, by your parent. However, I have heard of (not too long ago) about a parent locking their kids in the trunk of a car. A couple of months ago here, a mother was arrested for killing her 6 year old son. When the cops found him, I think he was tied up or hung. I'm not sure. There was an article about her this week. They're trying to determine if something was wrong with her mentally, LOL. Come on now.

However, when Ms. Gordon returned wearing all of that fur, claiming to be rich, then to watch her her shake Penny tells us that she hasn't learned her lesson about being a good mother. She wanted Penny back so bad, then to revert to her old ways made me want to smack her. Even though the show is not true, of course.

[GeorgeWBushGOP]

Burning with an iron is nothing compared to what I hear/

Plus with some parents just sheer emotional abuse laid on their kids because of their own failures.

And kids being used as pawns in bad marriages. and not to mention the children who are victims of molestation.

I cry for children sometimes. They are in hopeless situations. Totally dependent on their parents.

It is important for the parents to be GOOD parents or not even bother.

[TVFactFan]

Burning with an iron is nothing compared to what I hear/

Plus with some parents just sheer emotional abuse laid on their kids because of their own failures.

And kids being used as pawns in bad marriages. and not to mention the children who are victims of molestation.

I cry for children sometimes. They are in hopeless situations. Totally dependent on their parents.

It is important for the parents to be GOOD parents or not even bother.



Being burned by an iron is NOTHING?-lol

[nerrad]

Being burned by an iron is NOTHING?-lol


On your back it is, LOL.

[GeorgeWBushGOP]

Being burned by an iron is NOTHING?-lol


Maybe she mistaken Penny for a blouse??

[Brieannas21]

I thought Penny was burnt on her arm not her back. If I remember correctly the burn mark was on her arm because she had a bandage on it. on her back I thought it was brused because her mom was hitting her on her back.

When I was 6, I was burned by an very very hot iron, it was so hot that I still have the iron shape and mark on my upper thigh. So yes it can happen. But I burnt myself with the iron LOL

[Ireneparalegal]

Sorry Retro, being burnt by an iron is something I have experience with. Okay, here it goes, when I was five years old, my sister who was 18 at the time had the ironing board with the iron left on right next to my side of the bed. From what I found out later, she had used the iron six hours earlier and it was left on. At midnight for whatever reason, I must have been half-asleep, i seen this cord dangling in my view and for whatever reason, I pulled on it, unbeknowst to me it was the iron that was left on. I didn't have any blankets on me cuz it was very warm in our room. Next thing I know, that hot iron landed right on top of both my legs. Right where my thighs end and my knees begin. I screamed like I hadn't screamed in my life. I was in such a state of shock, I couldn't push the iron off of me. My sister jumped out of bed, turned on the light and saw what had happened and threw off the iron. That must have taken abt a good 7 seconds from the time she got off her bed. It was abt 2-3 seconds of my yelling that woke her up. I suffered third degree burns. I had these awful scars that reminded me of that night. I still remember that incident like it was yesterday. But thank God, I can't recall the pain. It was horrendous and brutal. I was in agony. I am even more thankful that in the last 10 years, the scars have disappeared. A miracle to me.

[Brieannas21]

Sorry Retro, being burnt by an iron is something I have experience with. Okay, here it goes, when I was five years old, my sister who was 18 at the time had the ironing board with the iron left on right next to my side of the bed. From what I found out later, she had used the iron six hours earlier and it was left on. At midnight for whatever reason, I must have been half-asleep, i seen this cord dangling in my view and for whatever reason, I pulled on it, unbeknowst to me it was the iron that was left on. I didn't have any blankets on me cuz it was very warm in our room. Next thing I know, that hot iron landed right on top of both my legs. Right where my thighs end and my knees begin. I screamed like I hadn't screamed in my life. I was in such a state of shock, I couldn't push the iron off of me. My sister jumped out of bed, turned on the light and saw what had happened and threw off the iron. That must have taken abt a good 7 seconds from the time she got off her bed. It was abt 2-3 seconds of my yelling that woke her up. I suffered third degree burns. I had these awful scars that reminded me of that night. I still remember that incident like it was yesterday. But thank God, I can't recall the pain. It was horrendous and brutal. I was in agony. I am even more thankful that in the last 10 years, the scars have disappeared. A miracle to me.


Your lucky your scar disappeared, I still have mine, it's about 5 inches long and 4 inches wide. A hot iron is not a joke.

[Ireneparalegal]

Your lucky your scar disappeared, I still have mine, it's about 5 inches long and 4 inches wide. A hot iron is not a joke.
you know, the burn that remained was like how you described yours, the mark of the iron. One leg had two circles with the top of the iron marked on it, the other was just a irregular and jagged looking burn. I guess because it happened when i was so young and being very light skinned, it was obvious. through the years and wearing a bikini, shorts, etc. my legs would tan and eventually the discoloration matched up with my tan. Also, I put Vitamin E on the scars. I am so lucky. I know it could have been worse. It could have fallen on my face!!!! A hot iron is something anyone can be burned by, it's not impossible, and yes, some children are burned on purpose.

[TVFactFan]

Sorry Retro, being burnt by an iron is something I have experience with. Okay, here it goes, when I was five years old, my sister who was 18 at the time had the ironing board with the iron left on right next to my side of the bed. From what I found out later, she had used the iron six hours earlier and it was left on. At midnight for whatever reason, I must have been half-asleep, i seen this cord dangling in my view and for whatever reason, I pulled on it, unbeknowst to me it was the iron that was left on. I didn't have any blankets on me cuz it was very warm in our room. Next thing I know, that hot iron landed right on top of both my legs. Right where my thighs end and my knees begin. I screamed like I hadn't screamed in my life. I was in such a state of shock, I couldn't push the iron off of me. My sister jumped out of bed, turned on the light and saw what had happened and threw off the iron. That must have taken abt a good 7 seconds from the time she got off her bed. It was abt 2-3 seconds of my yelling that woke her up. I suffered third degree burns. I had these awful scars that reminded me of that night. I still remember that incident like it was yesterday. But thank God, I can't recall the pain. It was horrendous and brutal. I was in agony. I am even more thankful that in the last 10 years, the scars have disappeared. A miracle to me.




Ok so that's why I said it's no way a 11 year old girl could deal with the pain of being burned on her back. That's why I said the episode was fake reality

[Ireneparalegal]

well, my understanding from the episode is that Penny's mother may have touched her for a mere second with the hot iron, just enough "punishment" to get Penny to take her mother seriously. It is obvious those burns were not from having an iron placed on her arm any longer than was necessary to get the point across by Penny's mom. I know we didn't see what happened, but it can be concluded that it was done in that manner.

[Brieannas21]

Ok so that's why I said it's no way a 11 year old girl could deal with the pain of being burned on her back. That's why I said the episode was fake reality

You would be amazed as to how much pain a kid can deal with, Some kids are tough. When I was 12 I broke my wrist and didn't know that it was broken so I laid in bed until my mom got home. Why I didn't call my mom or dad at work to tell them I fell I have no clue.

[Ireneparalegal]

You would be amazed as to how much pain a kid can deal with, Some kids are tough. When I was 12 I broke my wrist and didn't know that it was broken so I laid in bed until my mom got home. Why I didn't call my mom or dad at work to tell them I fell I have no clue.
Right. Kids are very resilient. Kids can and they do, endure alot of things. My nephew also broke his arm and didn't say nothing abt his pain for THREE DAYS!!!! crazy boy.
My daughter received a second degree burn on the palm of her right hand when she was one years old. She had touched a hot barbecue pit. She cried so much that day, but she cried more in the night than when she first burned herself, but the next day, there she was off and playing again.
My three year old, when he was almost two years old, barely touched my hot curling iron when I placed it on my dresser. He didn't really cry, just kept motioning that something was wrong with his hand. I took him to the ER and the doctor said that kids have this resiliency to deal with pain. which explained why he barely cried. Hey, me and my two kids have been burned. Sounds like a pattern here...... :eek: God watched over us though, it could have been worse.

[GeeBee]

I've got one thing to say to Retro:

Get your head out of the sand and take a look at what's really going on in the world.

[TVFactFan]

I've got one thing to say to Retro:

Get your head out of the sand and take a look at what's really going on in the world.


GeeBee I just never heard a story about a child being burned by an iron purposely, that's all i'm saying.

[Brieannas21]

GeeBee I just never heard a story about a child being burned by an iron purposely, that's all i'm saying.

The thing is, Kids have been burnt with irons, curling irons, stoves, and ovens on purpose by their parents. Some people are sick, there was a woman here who killed her baby in such a sick way I won't even post it on here it was so bad, it makes you think how a person can get to be that cruel.

[Jrnygrl]

I've got one thing to say to Retro:

Get your head out of the sand and take a look at what's really going on in the world.


I used to be just like this. When I started working at DCS I couldn't imagine anyone would hurt a defenseless child. Some people are sadistic, I have seen pictures of children burnt by a lit cigarette, a curling iron, car lighters, and I won't even go into what some people do to newborn babies because they won't stop crying.

Retro your probably like me, have parents that love you, but there are those parents that have no idea how to be parents and the cycle of abuse is passed on. Working at DCS really opened my eyes about the world. :eek:

[Ireneparalegal]

It is a sad pathetic reality of our world. The thought of a child being harmed. I grew up in a home where I was never hit or spanked. My boyfriend found that "unusual" when i told him this. He grew up with disciplining meaning a spanking, whether by hand or a belt. I just feel there are some ways to discipline without resorting to physical discipline.