'Nine Inch Nails' Drops Out of MTV Show Over Political Message

[Janice]

Nine Inch Nails Drops Out of MTV Show

LOS ANGELES (May 28) - Nine Inch Nails dropped out of the MTV Movie Awards after clashing with the network over an image of President Bush the band planned as a performance backdrop.

The Bush image was to accompany the song "The Hand That Feeds," which obliquely criticizes the Iraq war. It includes the lyrics: "What if this whole crusade's a charade / And behind it all there's a price to be paid / For the blood on which we dine / Justified in the name of the holy and the divine."

MTV said in a statement to its news division that the network was disappointed the industrial rock band would not perform but had been "uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement."

The Foo Fighters will perform in place of the Trent Reznor-led band at the awards being taped June 4 in Los Angeles.

Reznor said in a statement posted on the band's Web site Thursday that the image of the president would have been unaltered and "straightforward."

"Apparently, the image of our president is as offensive to MTV as it is to me," he said.

Nine Inch Nails' fourth studio album and first in six years, "With Teeth," debuted this month at No. 1 in sales.

[James"Thunder"Early]

There's a time and place for political statements and an awards show is not that place. The band is being unreasonable IMO.

[Janice]

There's a time and place for political statements and an awards show is not that place. The band is being unreasonable IMO.
Dr. Phillips, is that really you? Has someone got you tied up and has hacked into your computer? ;)

[Max Whittaker]

Dr. Phillips, is that really you? Has someone got you tied up and has hacked into your computer? ;)

:lol: ..... :eek: Maybe... Don't worry Dr. Phillips! I'm coming! I'll rescue you!!! :seeya:

[James"Thunder"Early]

Dr. Phillips, is that really you? Has someone got you tied up and has hacked into your computer? ;):rofl:

[ABlairican Pie]

Where have all the voices of dissent gone in music? Just like when they censored the Smothers Brothers in the 60's. MTV are a bunch of lilly-livered cowards. WEENIES, ALL OF YA!! :mad: :soapbox:

[*Pleasant Tomorrow*]

God, it's so annoying when singers get all political. Shut the hell up, we don't frikkin care.

[ABlairican Pie]

Isn't social commentary part of rock and roll? If the song was about a war many people care about, shouldn't he be allowed to sing about it?

[*Pleasant Tomorrow*]

Isn't social commentary part of rock and roll? If the song was about a war many people care about, shouldn't he be allowed to sing about it?
No. :snob:

[TheGreatPretender]

Meh it would be too risque. Another silly controversy nothing changing. But do you honestly think the President would take Nine Inch Nails seriously? :lol:

[Janice]

I guess it comes down to being a time and a place for everything. This is a Movie Award event and MTV wants to keep it politically free, perhaps fearing that making political statements will take the focus off the reason for the show.

Also, I'm sure that MTV realizes that there are many people who support the President and the war, and they don't want to alienate them. I don't want any band, actor, actress, or anyone shoving their political opinions on me.

Good business decision on the part of MTV. They have every right to hire or not hire whomever they want. I'm sure there won't be any bands praising Bush there either.

[ABlairican Pie]

No. :snob:So Black Sabbath shouldn't have sung about Vietnam with "War Pigs"?

Scratch that, they didn't refer to Vietnam by name in 1970, but everyone knew what they were talking about.

[Janice]

So Black Sabbath shouldn't have sung about Vietnam with "War Pigs"?
Any band can sing any song they want, but where they're allowed to sing it isn't always up to them.

It's the venue that sets this situation apart. MTV is a private enterprise. It's their decision if they want to keep politics out of their Awards Show.

[*Pleasant Tomorrow*]

So Black Sabbath shouldn't have sung about Vietnam with "War Pigs"?

Scratch that, they didn't refer to Vietnam by name in 1970, but everyone knew what they were talking about.
Nope, they should sing about flying butterflies and daisies :snob:

[James"Thunder"Early]

Musicians have sang songs about political issue before and it's fine, but the line must be drawn somewhere and this awards show shouldn't be used as a political venue.

[ABlairican Pie]

Nope, they should sing about flying butterflies and daisies :snob:On second thought, :yeahthat Yeah, that's it!! :idea: Butterflies and daisies!!! Too much gloom and doom in the world. Gotta have some fun happy stuff in music!!! peace: peacesign: I mean, okay, so the world's crap, WE GET IT, MISTER REZNOR. So your girlfriend's an evil skankhound who erases your will to live, Mister Nine Inch Nails Dude, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING IT UP FER THE 307 GAZILLIONTH TIME, MISTER REZNOR. So your albums are full of existential angst and trendy nihilism, BOO FRICKIN' HOO, MISTER REZNOR. :crybaby: LIFE GOES ON, SO GO FIX YERSELF SOME JELL-O PUDDING POPS AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL DAY!!!! THROW YOURSELF A PICNIC AND COUNT YER BLESSINGS, MISTER REZNOR!!!! YA BIG GOTH-Y WHINER, YOUZE!!! TOSS THAT BLACK OUTFIT AND GET A NICE PASTEL PRINT SHIRT!!!! :mad: :rant:

So when WAS the last time someone heard a good butterflies and daisies and cute little puppies tune, anyways?? :confused: :(

[*Pleasant Tomorrow*]

On second thought, :yeahthat Yeah, that's it!! :idea: Butterflies and daisies!!! Too much gloom and doom in the world. Gotta have some fun happy stuff in music!!! peace: peacesign: I mean, okay, so the world's crap, WE GET IT, MISTER REZNOR. So your girlfriend's an evil skankhound who erases your will to live, Mister Nine Inch Nails Dude, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING IT UP FER THE 307 GAZILLIONTH TIME, MISTER REZNOR. So your albums are full of existential angst and trendy nihilism, BOO FRICKIN' HOO, MISTER REZNOR. :crybaby: LIFE GOES ON, SO GO FIX YERSELF SOME JELL-O PUDDING POPS AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL DAY!!!! THROW YOURSELF A PICNIC AND COUNT YER BLESSINGS, MISTER REZNOR!!!! YA BIG GOTH-Y WHINER, YOUZE!!! TOSS THAT BLACK OUTFIT AND GET A NICE PASTEL PRINT SHIRT!!!! :mad: :rant:

So when WAS the last time someone heard a good butterflies and daisies and cute little puppies tune, anyways?? :confused: :(
:rofl:

Nooooow you got the idea. The last time???? Ermmmm, 50s sometime. They sang about happy things like high hopes and mr sandman :(

[ABlairican Pie]

:rofl:

Nooooow you got the idea. The last time???? Ermmmm, 50s sometime. They sang about happy things like high hopes and mr sandman :(Yeah, the 50's, they were a happy time, full of Leave It to Beaver and soda fountains! :bouncers Ferget that whole thing about McCarthyism and Khrushchev's shoe-pounding and all that.

Pat Boone is our role model!! :D

[Janice]

On second thought, :yeahthat Yeah, that's it!! :idea: Butterflies and daisies!!! Too much gloom and doom in the world. Gotta have some fun happy stuff in music!!! peace: peacesign: I mean, okay, so the world's crap, WE GET IT, MISTER REZNOR. So your girlfriend's an evil skankhound who erases your will to live, Mister Nine Inch Nails Dude, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING IT UP FER THE 307 GAZILLIONTH TIME, MISTER REZNOR. So your albums are full of existential angst and trendy nihilism, BOO FRICKIN' HOO, MISTER REZNOR. :crybaby: LIFE GOES ON, SO GO FIX YERSELF SOME JELL-O PUDDING POPS AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL DAY!!!! THROW YOURSELF A PICNIC AND COUNT YER BLESSINGS, MISTER REZNOR!!!! YA BIG GOTH-Y WHINER, YOUZE!!! TOSS THAT BLACK OUTFIT AND GET A NICE PASTEL PRINT SHIRT!!!! :mad: :rant:

So when WAS the last time someone heard a good butterflies and daisies and cute little puppies tune, anyways?? :confused: :(
:lol: :rotflmao:

[Fleet]

Yeah, the 50's, they were a happy time, full of Leave It to Beaver and soda fountains! :bouncers Ferget that whole thing about McCarthyism and Khrushchev's shoe-pounding and all that.

Pat Boone is our role model!! :D
I know you're saying that in jest, but I've asked my parents a few times about which decade they liked better- the '50s or the present. They said definitely the '50s and I agree completely.
Yes, there was McCarthyism, but that was not as serious as many would believe. And I'd take that rather than today's drive-by shootings and car-jackings.
The school system was actually good (effective) back then. If a student failed a class, he failed! The parents didn't try to sue the teacher or anything. And speaking of schools, you didn't worry if a classmate was hiding a gun. In fact, even when I was in high school (the late '70s) guns at school were not a problem at all. One more thing about schools. I had a list somewhere of the biggest problems in school. I can't find it, but can remember parts of it.
Biggest problems in school:
1950s................................ 1990s
Running in the halls.............. Drugs
Chewing gum...................... Assaults
Talking in class.................... Teenage pregnancies
(I think you get the picture.)
Things like out-of-wedlock babies and teen pregnancies were WAY lower in the '50s compared to today. I don't know the actual figures, but something like 3 or 4% back then and maybe 25 or 30% today.

As for Khrushchev, the Cold War wasn't just confined to the '50s- it went on throught the '60s, '70s and most of the '80s.

I would certainly take Pat Boone as a role model than a freaky-looking Michael Jackson! (Wouldn't you?)

In the '50s there were places where kids used to rollar skate near mid-city Los Angeles where you would practically need a machine gun to be safe there today.

Nearly everyone who lived through the '50s would agree that is was the best decade of the last 50 or so years.

[ABlairican Pie]

I know you're saying that in jest, but I've asked my parents a few times about which decade they liked better- the '50s or the present. They said definitely the '50s and I agree completely.
Yes, there was McCarthyism, but that was not as serious as many would believe. And I'd take that rather than today's drive-by shootings and car-jackings.
The school system was actually good (effective) back then. If a student failed a class, he failed! The parents didn't try to sue the teacher or anything. And speaking of schools, you didn't worry if a classmate was hiding a gun. In fact, even when I was in high school (the late '70s) guns at school were not a problem at all. One more thing about schools. I had a list somewhere of the biggest problems in school. I can't find it, but can remember parts of it.
Biggest problems in school:
1950s................................ 1990s
Running in the halls.............. Drugs
Chewing gum...................... Assaults
Talking in class.................... Teenage pregnancies
(I think you get the picture.)
Things like out-of-wedlock babies and teen pregnancies were WAY lower in the '50s compared to today. I don't know the actual figures, but something like 3 or 4% back then and maybe 25 or 30% today.

As for Khrushchev, the Cold War wasn't just confined to the '50s- it went on throught the '60s, '70s and most of the '80s.

I would certainly take Pat Boone as a role model than a freaky-looking Michael Jackson! (Wouldn't you?)

In the '50s there were places where kids used to rollar skate near mid-city Los Angeles where you would practically need a machine gun to be safe there today.

Nearly everyone who lived through the '50s would agree that is was the best decade of the last 50 or so years.OMG, the 50's ANY DAY over the pathetic 90's!!!! I'm writing about the 90's in my rock and roll history thread, and my gosh, what a DEPRESSING decade. The great big hope of rock and roll, Kurt Cobain, KILLED himself over various issues; gangs were abundant, and militia groups were running amok. It could be argued that a certain Democrat did not make things better... ;) I remember reading about graduating seniors' comments about what their future plans were, and their comments were very revealing: they just about their plans not to get shot or killed and hopefully they would reach adulthood... And I thought, that's their life goals, not making a great living and contributing something to the betterment of their fellow man??? :confused: :eek: Something not right with that picture.

Pat Boone over Michael Jackson, definitely, he mght have made an album of goofy big-band versions of heavy metal tunes, but other than that, he has no real skeletons in his closet; on the other hand, Michael Jackson is a walking plastic surgery disaster with gender identity crisis (and not to forget
Neverland is Michael Mansion West--if I had that kind of loot, I'd party with WOMEN, rather than have "sleepovers"... :rolleyes: ) Kinda interesting how at one time, Michael was considered a perfect "role model" (as was John Wayne Gacy).

[Fleet]

OMG, the 50's ANY DAY over the pathetic 90's!!!! I'm writing about the 90's in my rock and roll history thread, and my gosh, what a DEPRESSING decade. The great big hope of rock and roll, Kurt Cobain, KILLED himself over various issues; gangs were abundant, and militia groups were running amok. It could be argued that a certain Democrat did not make things better... ;) I remember reading about graduating seniors' comments about what their future plans were, and their comments were very revealing: they just about their plans not to get shot or killed and hopefully they would reach adulthood... And I thought, that's their life goals, not making a great living and contributing something to the betterment of their fellow man??? :confused: :eek: Something not right with that picture.

Pat Boone over Michael Jackson, definitely, he mght have made an album of goofy big-band versions of heavy metal tunes, but other than that, he has no real skeletons in his closet; on the other hand, Michael Jackson is a walking plastic surgery disaster with gender identity crisis (and not to forget
Neverland is Michael Mansion West--if I had that kind of loot, I'd party with WOMEN, rather than have "sleepovers"... :rolleyes: ) Kinda interesting how at one time, Michael was considered a perfect "role model" (as was John Wayne Gacy).
Yeah, I consider the '90s to be pretty bad musically. I'll check out your '90s thread.
Interesting... the seniors' comments about the future- not getting shot and hoping to reach adulthood! A '50s teen would even have thought of saying that! Most would have said things like hoping to get a good career job, getting married and buying a car.

I forgot about Boone's attempt at heavy metal. I guess he was just trying to get attention. He could have done it in a better way, like maybe staring his own magic show or something. :D
I don't think many people (especially during the last few months) would pick Michael Jackson over Pat Boone as a role model, either!