#8 "Guilty" (11/28/04) Comments!

[Pavan]

Wow...oh wow. That's all I'll say for now, until the west coast watches.

[MissZero]

that was ****in crazy.....I cant believe they're making us wait 2 weeks for more.

[ZKS]

What's with all the freaking specials on Sunday's, why can't they air those on Saturday :mad:

but WOW that was excellent

[Brent88]

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[-*Forever*-]

Fun fun. Best episode ever.

*dies*

[barwars]

I liked it, but it seemed very "final"

Unlike other weeks, I'm not really itching to see what happens next.

It was insane, that's all I can say.
Insane.

[Caffeine King]

:eek: Can't say I like you know who...but I was kinda half expecting them to be the one...

So are they the one who's dead?

(See, West Coasters, I didn't say if it was a he or a she :) )

I got scared at Lynnette's first dream :eek:

Damn you ABC for making us wait another 2 more weeks!

Oh and BTW, after this 2 week wait when Suspicious Minds airs (the next new episode) we'll have to wait until January for new episodes! :mad:

January 9th to be exact.

[gOoSe]

Originally posted by Lola Dane
What's with all the freaking specials on Sunday's, why can't they air those on Saturday :mad:

but WOW that was excellent

because 1) sunday's get the most viewers and 2)these specials target the older crowd which watch sunday nights onABC

but next week is a tv-movie that seems intresting, IMO plus, it's still sweeps season.... for me while it can be annoying, it just depends on what the "special" is, like next week's movie looks better than the AMA's. but that is just me

anyways, great episode! i'm glad it turned out this way, they really tried teasing us until the dead person was covered up...

how will they find out now? from the looks of the next episode, it's like they don't know....

[Chambers]

It was quite insane....but still good.

[Caffeine King]

Originally posted by barwars
I liked it, but it seemed very "final"

Unlike other weeks, I'm not really itching to see what happens next.

It was insane, that's all I can say.
Insane.
Ditto.

Though, I am anticipating the next new episode it didn't seem like there was much of a cliffhanger for this episode.

BTW, when Bree was talking to Lynnette, she said "it's hard with 4 kids" but in the first episode Lynnette's husband said to her "wanna go for #4?"

But also, in the first episode, I remember there being the three boys and then the baby too.

:confused:

[barwars]

Originally posted by Caffeine King
Ditto.

Though, I am anticipating the next new episode it didn't seem like there was much of a cliffhanger for this episode.

BTW, when Bree was talking to Lynnette, she said "it's hard with 4 kids" but in the first episode Lynnette's husband said to her "wanna go for #4?"

But also, in the first episode, I remember there being the three boys and then the baby too.

:confused:

I think he meant 4th pregnancy.

[vashti1999]

Originally posted by barwars
It was insane, that's all I can say.
Insane.

What, you call a blender to the noggin and choking someone to death insane? :eek3:

[barwars]

The whole scene with Lynette and her suicide was weak.

[ZKS]

Originally posted by barwars
The whole scene with Lynette and her suicide was weak.

That had me going :confused: Until they showed it was her dream

[Chambers]

Originally posted by barwars
The whole scene with Lynette and her suicide was weak.

I didn't like any of the Mary Alice appearances...seemed too corny. They could have presented it better.

[gOoSe]

i agree with barwars that it didnt seem like a cliffhanger, except that well Bree is looking to turn her son in and that now we need to see what happens after the death - do people find out?

[MissZero]

Originally posted by barwars
The whole scene with Lynette and her suicide was weak.

I didn't think so, I was like "oh **** not Lynette"

[-*Forever*-]

Originally posted by barwars
The whole scene with Lynette and her suicide was weak.

At first, I thought she was giving her the gun to kill her kids.

[Pavan]

Originally posted by Caffeine King

Damn you ABC for making us wait another 2 more weeks!

Oh and BTW, after this 2 week wait when Suspicious Minds airs (the next new episode) we'll have to wait until January for new episodes! :mad:

January 9th to be exact.

Well, sweeps ends this after Wednesday, so if ABC wasn't going to air that movie next week, it would have been a rerun. December 12 is all new, though, like you said. Then on the 19 and 26, the first two episodes are slated to air, as of now. On January 2, ABC will air the Dynasty movie in DH's slot, that should get a ton of viewers. And then DH is back on January 9 for probably all-new episodes until end of February!

[MissZero]

Originally posted by pavanbadal
Well, sweeps ends this after Wednesday, so if ABC wasn't going to air that movie next week, it would have been a rerun. December 12 is all new, though, like you said. Then on the 19 and 26, the first two episodes are slated to air, as of now. On January 2, ABC will air the Dynasty movie in DH's slot, that should get a ton of viewers. And then DH is back on January 9 for probably all-new episodes until end of February!


it's gonna drive me crazy!

[Pavan]

I'm not going to say much yet, but that scene with Paul in the "kitchen" towards the end, is so Dynasty-ish, lol. Great stuff.

[Pavan]

OK, we can start talking about the episode now, lol.

I saw "Mrs. Huber" on GMA this morning. She said she will be back, hmm. Maybe in a flashback scene? Or is she REALLY dead...?

[isiahthomas]

That sucks that the show won't be on next week. I liked last night's episode. I'm glad that guy killed Mrs. Huber LOL. She's a pain in the ass & she won't be missed. I can't believe she lied about she didn't take Nicolette Sheridan's money cause they showed her taking the $40 out of her breasts & puttin it in her purse. Susan had no business going through Mike's stuff. She shouldn't have left his money & the gun in the bathroom sink. Nicolette be wearing some sexy ass outfits. She is hot. I like that outfit she had on when she was talkin to Richard Roundtree.

[gOoSe]

Originally posted by pavanbadal
OK, we can start talking about the episode now, lol.

I saw "Mrs. Huber" on GMA this morning. She said she will be back, hmm. Maybe in a flashback scene? Or is she REALLY dead...?

i missed it, lol hopefully one of these DH sites recording it.... but....

i could see her coming back in that "angel form" like Mary Alice has been doing, but the thing "is she really dead", would be beyond intresting....

[vze3t9q9]

I didn't quite understand Susan taking the money upstairs. Was she going to count it up in the bathroom. As for delivery man not seeing her with the money I would have gone outside and picked up the receipt. Also Mike must have bought/rented a delapidated house. What weak floors he has. I would have been mad at someone going into my cabinets. I wondered why he didn't have more concealed.

[isiahthomas]

Mike was mad at Susan for lookin into his cabinets cause he saw she had the money & gun in the bathroom sink when he saw her stuck in the floor. She had no business snooping around his house. I was surprised they were kissing a lot at the end when he apologized to her. If i was Mike, i wouldn't want to lose Susan either. She's hot.

[MissZero]

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Mike was mad at Susan for lookin into his cabinets cause he saw she had the money & gun in the bathroom sink when he saw her stuck in the floor. She had no business snooping around his house. I was surprised they were kissing a lot at the end when he apologized to her. If i was Mike, i wouldn't want to lose Susan either. She's hot.

She wasn't snooping, she was lookin for dog biscuits and found the money and gun.

[jayman75]

Did Lynette drop an S-bomb on us when she was crying on the playground? I swear she said "This is such *****."

Anyone else catch that???

[ZKS]

Originally posted by isiahthomas
Mike was mad at Susan for lookin into his cabinets cause he saw she had the money & gun in the bathroom sink when he saw her stuck in the floor. She had no business snooping around his house. I was surprised they were kissing a lot at the end when he apologized to her. If i was Mike, i wouldn't want to lose Susan either. She's hot.

Like the other poster said she wasn't snooping. I think if I stumbled across a gun and that much money I'd kinda freak myself, I'd probably assume he's a mobster or a drug dealer or something.

Also remember on soaps, people are never truly dead ;)

[barwars]

Originally posted by Lola Dane
Also remember on soaps, people are never truly dead ;)

If they kill a character, and bring them back from the dead, I will be pissed.

[ZKS]

Originally posted by barwars
If they kill a character, and bring them back from the dead, I will be pissed.

That's soaps for you, they constantly do that

[Pavan]

Originally posted by barwars
If they kill a character, and bring them back from the dead, I will be pissed.

How do you know she is 'really' dead though? It wasn't said if she was dead....

[barwars]

Originally posted by pavanbadal
How do you know she is 'really' dead though? It wasn't said if she was dead....

I thought the whole thing was "one will be gone, forever" -- meaning they die.

If she happens to survive that, that would be cool.

But if they go through a whole funeral and stuff, I dont want her to miraculously appear saying she faked her death or something.

As insane as the show is, I want it to be believable.

As unbelievable as it has been, it's still believable.

[gOoSe]

well if the murder happened another way, then they could do that, it probably will be some flashback sorta stuff but i guess we'll see...

[Sean Snow]

Last night's episode was great! Woah...just woah.

Gabrielle's storyline wasn't really exciting in this episode. I thought it was interesting how she confessed to being no better than a spoiled child but felt badly about it. Did anyone notice the magazine she was reading was titled Soap Opera Secrets? For some reason that just popped out at me.

Egads, Andrew is such an asshat. If I were Bree, I would've reported him to the police. I mean, he should at least feel some remorse for hitting Mrs. Solis.

Felicity Huffman was awesome in her scenes. I loved the scene in the kitchen when she was imagining herself getting a gun from Mary Alice and killing herself. I found it sad yet funny at the same time because of the music they played in the background. The scene with Lynette, Susan, and Bree in the soccer field/playground was awesome. I really like seeing the housewives all together. :)

Yay, Mike and Susan are finally together. I'm glad the show didn't have them mad at me other for a few episodes before finally bringing them back together.

The scene at the end with Mr. Mary Alice and Mrs. Kravitz was :eek: chilling. I'll miss Mrs. Kravitz, even though she was a big bitch. I can definitely understand why Mr. Mary Alice did it though. I liked how they kept moving between Mr. Mary Alice giving into his hateful passion and killing Mrs. Kravitz and Mike and Susan giving into their passion and making love.

Gah, I don't want to wait two weeks. And then the wait will be even longer! Egads. Oh well. At least they'll be re-running DH during two of those weeks.

[-*Forever*-]

Sean... her name is Mrs. Huber :p Remember Hubersmooothie?

[Sean Snow]

Originally posted by -*Forever*-
Sean... her name is Mrs. Huber :p Remember Hubersmooothie?

I know. ;) She'll always be Mrs. Kravitz to me though, since she reminds me so much of Mrs. Kravitz on Bewitched. :p Also, Paul will always be Mr. Mary Alice to me. That's the way it is.

[Sean Snow]

By the way, some people on Television Without Pity (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3120785&st=45) pointed out that during the Lynette dream sequence, the words "Women claim they were tricked" popped up for a second or two. I wonder what the point of that was? :confused: Hmm...

[Pavan]

Originally posted by Sean Snow
I know. ;) She'll always be Mrs. Kravitz to me though, since she reminds me so much of Mrs. Kravitz on Bewitched. :p Also, Paul will always be Mr. Mary Alice to me. That's the way it is.

LOL, yes, an "evil" Kravitz, though. All the characters on DH are very unique. Primetime hasn't seen a show like this in years.

The ratings for last night was just GREAT:

November 29, 2004

Fast Facts for Sunday, November 28, 2004 (Based on Fast Affiliate Ratings)


For the Fifth Straight Week ABC is No. 1 on Sunday in Adults 18-49

ABC Logs its Largest Sunday Audience with Regular Programming In 4 Years and its Top Adult 18-49 Rating in Close to 5 Years

ABC Broadcasts the Top 3 TV Shows on Sunday Evening Among Adults 18-49 with “Desperate Housewives,” “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” and “Boston Legal”

For the Second Straight Week, “America’s Funniest Home Videos” Delivers its Top Viewer and Young Adult Numbers of the Season

“Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” Earns its Second-Strongest Numbers Ever

ABC’s “Desperate Housewives” Hits New Heights to Become the Highest-Rated TV Telecast Among Adults 18-49 since Early May

“Boston Legal” Earns Series Highs, Producing ABC’s Top Series Numbers in the Time Period in Over 2 Years


Sunday Primetime (7:00-11:00 p.m.) ABC ranked a strong No. 1 on Sunday night in Total Viewers and across each of the major adult demographics: Total Viewers (17.8 million), Adults 18-34 (6.3/16), Adults 18-49 (7.3/17) and Adults 25-54 (8.2/17). ABC marked its fifth week in a row as the No. 1 network on Sunday in the key Adult 18-49 sales demographic. It’s been the top-rated network on 9 of the 10 Sundays so far this season.

* ABC delivered its largest audience with a regular lineup on Sunday night in 4 years and its top Adult 18-49 rating in close to 5 years – since 11/26/00 and 2/6/00.

* ABC’s “Desperate Housewives,” “Extreme Makeover Home Edition” and “Boston Legal” represented the Top 3 TV shows on Sunday night among Adults 18-49.

“America’s Funniest Home Videos” (7:00-8:00 p.m.) For the second straight week, ABC’s “America’s Funniest Home Videos” delivered its largest audience (12.1 million) and highest Adult 18-49 rating (3.4/9) of the season.
* ABC’s “America’s Funniest Home Videos” produced the series’ largest audience and highest Adult 18-49 rating since early 2003 – since 1/31/03 and 3/14/03, respectively.

“Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” (8:00-9:00 p.m.) Surging from its strong lead-in, ABC’s “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” ranked No. 1 in its hour, drawing an average audience of 18.2 million viewers and earning a 7.5 rating, 17 share among Adults 18-49. “Home Edition” was the No. 1 show broadcast on the evening among Kids 2-11 (5.0/14)
* “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” logged the sophomore unscripted series’ second-highest numbers ever among viewers and young adults -- second only to its performance three weeks ago, when it had a special airing of “Home Edition” as a lead-in.

“Desperate Housewives” (9:00-10:00 p.m.) ABC’s “Desperate Housewives” delivered a definitive first place in its time period, while earning its best-ever numbers among Total Viewers (27.0 million) and across the key adult demographics: Adults 18-34 – 11.4/27, Adults 18-49 – 12.4/26 and Adults 25-54 – 13.7/26). The ABC drama again bested its combined network competition in the time period among Adults 18-49 by 23% (12.4/26 vs. 10.1/21= NBC, CBS, Fox and WB combined).
* “Desperate Housewives” is TV’s highest-rated telecast among Adults 18-49 since May 6, 2004 ("Friends" Series-Finale), topping all programs this season, all Summer Olympic telecasts and the season finale of “American Idol.”
* “Desperate Housewives” attracted ABC’s largest audience with regular programming in the time period in 4-1/2 years and the Net’s top Adult 18-49 rating in the slot in nearly a decade – since 5/21/00 and 5/14/95, respectively. Additionally, “Desperate Housewives” has delivered the Top 3 highest-rated telecasts on TV this season among Adults 18-34 with each of its last three airings.
* “Desperate Housewives” peaked from 9:30 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. with over 28.5 million viewers and a 13.4/30 adult 18-49 rating.

“Boston Legal” (10:00-11:00 p.m.) ABC’s “Boston Legal” ranked No. 1 in its time period among Total Viewers (14.0 million) and Adults 18-49 (5.9/14), hitting the series’ highest-ever numbers on both counts.
* “Boston Legal” produced ABC’s largest audience and highest Adult 18-49 rating in the time period with regular programming in more than 2 years – since 10/20/02 and 10/13/02, respectively.

Source: Nielsen Media Research (Fast Affiliate Ratings) 11/28/04.

[JT]

This is such a CHILLING episode! Very suspenseful!

Lynette's breakdown was AWESOME! Just BRILLIANT! The freaky music was perfect for the scene and I loved how Mary Alice gave her the gun. I thought she going to shoot the kids lol

The Huber death scene gave me nightmares! HUGE kudos to Mark Moses and Christine Estabrook for those scenes. They were fantastic and I couldn't have asked for anything more.

My speculation says that we'll be seeing more of Martha in heaven, but then after a while, we'll see her sister come to Fairview. Maybe the producers were waiting to make Christine a regular until her permanent character, Martha's sister, comes.

But then again, all of that could be totally wrong.

[Caffeine King]

I thought that Mary Alice coming down from heaven was kinda random and corny, though it was in Lynnette's dream. :crazy:

At first I wasn't sure who it was, I thought it was a guardian angel or something but then I figured out that it was Mary Alice.

Did Lynette drop an S-bomb on us when she was crying on the playground? I swear she said "This is such *****."
Didn't notice it, too bad I didn't record it (though, I usually never record anything) or otherwise I'd go back and watch it again to see if that's what she really said.

I hope that Bree turns Andrew in, that's selfish of him to be doing that. :eek: :mad:

BTW, that was a Beatles song during Lynnette'sfirst dream sequence, right?

Which one was it? :)

I hope that they only do flashback scenes with Mrs. Huber, her and Mary Alice coming down from heaven would be stupid.

:( I can't wait two more weeks! Even though it didn't end on much of a cliffhanger, I want more! :lol:

:p How pathetic of me! :crazy:

[Sean Snow]

Originally posted by Caffeine King
BTW, that was a Beatles song during Lynnette'sfirst dream sequence, right?

Which one was it? :)

That song was "The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)" by Simon and Garfunkel.

[Teddy02]

i wonder how paul young thinks that no one will notice a body under the rug. or maybe he'll dispose of the body. hmm well it's not exactly like anyone will notice she's gone for a little while, edie moved out. the only way anyone will really know about it that mrs. huber will never make it to her sister's and then she'll start to wonder and maybe come to see what happened.

anyway, lynette's scenes: BRILLIANT! by far the funniest of the episode. i love the part where she just goes to get some sleep and the doorbell rings: "go to hell... gotohellgotohellgotohell" had me laughing out loud. the parts w/ mary alice, a little corny, but i guess it was a dream!j

bree's son is a jerk, that's all. she shouldn't turn him in, but definately some HEAVY punishment.

susan and mike: HOT!

[*MIBabe03*]

I'm sure Paul will dump the body somewhere. He'd be stupid not to. I found it ironic that Huber got clocked in the head with a blender. In the first episode, she was bringing one over to Mary Alice, which is how she found out that she killed herself.

[Caffeine King]

Originally posted by Teddy02
i wonder how paul young thinks that no one will notice a body under the rug. or maybe he'll dispose of the body. hmm well it's not exactly like anyone will notice she's gone for a little while, edie moved out. the only way anyone will really know about it that mrs. huber will never make it to her sister's and then she'll start to wonder and maybe come to see what happened.

I know that Edie moved out but she must've had some things that she left there, we never saw her take her things...

I figured that she just walked out to go somewhere because she was mad at Ms. Huber and that she'd be back later to get her things. :confused:


anyway, lynette's scenes: BRILLIANT! by far the funniest of the episode. i love the part where she just goes to get some sleep and the doorbell rings: "go to hell... gotohellgotohellgotohell" had me laughing out loud.
:) That had me laughing too. :lol:

[db108108]

The opening sequence with Huber and Edie arguing over money and yogurt struck me as hilarious, as did the scene where Lynette had a fit, just before she saw Mary Alice.

My theory on her "death." Huber, being the diabolical bitch that she is, basically pretended to stop breathing and stopped struggling so that Mary Alice's husband would leave her alone. I don't think she's dead at all.

[-*Forever*-]

Originally posted by JT
seeing more of Martha in heaven

HEAVEN!?!?! JT, are you ****ting me? She's going tah heeeeeeeeelll baby. In a HANDBASKET.

[Pavan]

Originally posted by pavanbadal
Well, sweeps ends this after Wednesday, so if ABC wasn't going to air that movie next week, it would have been a rerun. December 12 is all new, though, like you said. Then on the 19 and 26, the first two episodes are slated to air, as of now. On January 2, ABC will air the Dynasty movie in DH's slot, that should get a ton of viewers. And then DH is back on January 9 for probably all-new episodes until end of February!

Little update on the upcoming episodes (new episode now on Dec. 19 instead of a rerun!):

Sunday, December 5: pre-empted "5 People You Meet in Heaven"
Sunday, December 12: "Suspicious Minds" (all-new episode)
Sunday, December 19: "Come Back to Me" (all-new episode)
Sunday, December 26: TBD Rerun, special time 10 p.m.
Sunday, January 2: pre-empted "Dynasty Movie"
Sunday, January 9: TBD (all-new episode)

[ZKS]

Yay two new episodes in December instead of one, thanks :)

[db108108]

I'm glad to see that ABC was smart enough to air the repeat on the 26th at a special time so as not to ruin the series season averages. For a repeat airing the day after Christmas, it would have likely only drawn 6 million viewers or so, dramatically decreasing its overall ratings.

Those some bemoan the constant interruption in the show's new episodes, it's actually a really good thing because more specials= fewer lower performing repeats that drag down the season averages. If ABC does this for the rest of the season, "DH" has a very real chance of being the number one series at the end of the season.

[Brent88]

According to Zap2it listings the Dec. 26th repeat is the Pilot.

[jayman75]

Originally posted by jayman75
Did Lynette drop an S-bomb on us when she was crying on the playground? I swear she said "This is such *****."

Anyone else catch that???

So, I guess I imagined this??? I'm kind of hoping someone will confirm or deny my ears...

Thanks!

[Brian]

Originally posted by Sean Snow
That song was "The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)" by Simon and Garfunkel.


Simon & Garfunkel did do that song but the version heard on the show was by Harper's Bizarre.

[ZKS]

bumping this up for tonight, incase there's anyone who wants to reply who might not have seen this episode :)

[Brent88]

bumping this up for tonight, incase there's anyone who wants to reply who might not have seen this episode :)

I saw it, but I'm going to watch again. I got sucked in by the "character is killed" stuff. :rotflmao: