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Brian Damage
10-15-2004, 10:23 AM
Victor, the Russian owner of the salon that Gina works at, tells all of her clients that she is vacationing, and instead sends them to his daughter who isnít very good with hair. Alexís husband Eric, who plays in an orchestra, thinks that his wife hanging out with a single guy (Joey) is weird, so Joey visits Gina at her salon to ask her about it. Later when Joey meets the husband in the hot tub, Eric mentions that Joey doesnít threaten him at all. This upsets Joey, which leads to him into trying to make Eric jealous.

barwars
10-15-2004, 03:06 PM
Sounds good.... with two seperate storylines that actually mesh well together.

slackermonkey
10-15-2004, 10:18 PM
Pictures from this episode:

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barwars
10-21-2004, 03:03 PM
Tonight.

I still think having the audience never see the husband would be more interesting....

spunkygirl
10-21-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by barwars
Tonight.

I still think having the audience never see the husband would be more interesting....

I agree, kinda like we never saw Maris on Frasier :)

slackermonkey
10-21-2004, 07:14 PM
Yeah, but Eric is supposed to be a recurring character, and you can't really have the Joey/Alex/Eric love triangle without ever seeing one person. Well, you could, but it wouldn't be as interesting to watch.

TJL
10-21-2004, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
Yeah, but Eric is supposed to be a recurring character, and you can't really have the Joey/Alex/Eric love triangle without ever seeing one person. Well, you could, but it wouldn't be as interesting to watch.

Treu, but knowing NBC's penchant for stunt casting (especially during sweeps) I would have thought they would have gotten a big name guest star to play Alex's husband.

slackermonkey
10-21-2004, 07:33 PM
It's actually the "Joey" producers who make the casting decision, and NBC just approves it. That's why "Friends" never had the insane amount of guest stars (most of whom aren't even actors) that "Will & Grace" does.

TJL
10-21-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
It's actually the producers who make the casting decision, and NBC just approves it. That's why "Friends" never had the insane amount of guest stars that "Will & Grace" does.

Sorry, meant to say producers, creators, etc.

Chambers
10-21-2004, 08:12 PM
The car gag was predictable but still got me laughing.
And the husband...he's not a big name after all, or at least not any name I know.

spunkygirl
10-21-2004, 08:59 PM
Really good episode I liked it. Joey and the wristbands :rotflmao:

TJL
10-21-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Chambers
The car gag was predictable but still got me laughing.
And the husband...he's not a big name after all, or at least not any name I know.

He appeared on "Good Morning Miami" last year.

slackermonkey
10-21-2004, 11:45 PM
Very solid episode.

Joey was a little dumber this time around, but not to the point of being unfunny. He had me cracking up when he was "seducing" Eric.

I missed Alex last week, so I was glad to see an episode with more of her in it.

It's pretty obvious now where they're going with Joey/Alex, but I just hope they stretch it out a little. Not to the insane Niles/Daphne length, but maybe three years or so.

I was shocked at how much was changed in the scenes in Gina's salon. There was a lot more of Viktor, including Joey and Michael going down to the salon to reason with him, and it was hilarious stuff. But the script pages I have come from an early draft, so that probably explains why there were so many changes.

A-

Brian Damage
10-22-2004, 11:27 AM
I really enjoyed last night's episode. Alex's husband did nothing for me and I was disappointed that the role of Viktor was so small. However, it was a very funny episode.

spunkygirl
10-22-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
I really enjoyed last night's episode. Alex's husband did nothing for me and I was disappointed that the role of Viktor was so small. However, it was a very funny episode.

I really feel there is no use for Alex's husband, that they gave her a husband just as an obstacle to Joey and Alex getting together

DukeDevils9192
10-22-2004, 12:21 PM
Thought this was a superb episode. One of my favorites all year. The car gag was predictable, but funny. Joey being seductive was great, as well, but man, he could use to stick his legs in the sun once in a while. If only they'd gone full Family Guy route and had Joey make orange juice with his nipples, this would have been high quality Friends stuff (if you haven't seen that Family Guy episode...Peter is trying to seduce Luke Perry and to make orange juice...well, let's just say it's disgusting but hilarious).

The only problem I had is that this was clearly a vehicle for Joey/Alex and I'm really, really set against that union. Keep them platonic and put them in Joey/Phoebe antics, but keep the romance away. Oh well.

Great stuff.

Chambers
10-22-2004, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by DukeDevils9192

The only problem I had is that this was clearly a vehicle for Joey/Alex and I'm really, really set against that union. Keep them platonic and put them in Joey/Phoebe antics, but keep the romance away.

Totally agree.

barwars
10-22-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Chambers
Totally agree.

Make that three.

DukeDevils9192
10-22-2004, 04:48 PM
Oh, did anyone else notice a slight goof?

Joey held up a copy of Soap Opera Digest from 1997. He was off DOOL by 1996 (season 1: '94-95, season 2: '95-96).

Not a huge deal but it irked me.

TJL
10-22-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by DukeDevils9192

The only problem I had is that this was clearly a vehicle for Joey/Alex and I'm really, really set against that union. Keep them platonic and put them in Joey/Phoebe antics, but keep the romance away.


It is inevitable that they are going to get together, but keeping it platonic for at least a season or two would be a good idea. The lovely lass who plays Alex is a funny actress, and she should be given a chance to show her comic chops alongside LeBlanc and the rest of the cast.

Save the "will they/won't they" drama for another season.

;)

LucyCompanyPhan
10-22-2004, 10:27 PM
I thought it was one of the better Joey episodes. I like the Joey/Alex thing going on.

snl75
10-23-2004, 02:03 AM
i enjoyed the ep.

slackermonkey
10-25-2004, 05:02 PM
I'm bored, so I thought you guys might like to see the original scenes with Viktor from this episode.

The pages I have are from an early draft, so there are quite a few differences, but it's pretty common for lines and scenes to change by the time the episode airs. For example, the reason Gina hates Viktor in this draft is because he hires his daughter and gives her Gina's clients (that's why the official episode description mentions Viktor's daughter, but the aired episode never brings that up).

I only have the pages with Viktor's scenes -- it's a copy of an audition script for the character. I have the audition pages for Eric too, but I don't know where those are.

...

SCENE D

INT. SALON VIKTOR - DAY (DAY 2)
(Joey, Gina, Viktor, Mrs. Ferguson, Client, Extras)

GINA'S SALON IS SIMPLE, WITHOUT BEING A DIVE. BEHIND A COUNTER IN THE WAITING AREA STANDS THE RUSSIAN OWNER, VIKTOR. GINA IS WORKING OFF-CAMERA. JOEY ENTERS.

JOEY
I'm here to see Gina.

VIKTOR
(RUSSIAN ACCENT) You don't want Gina, my friend.

JOEY
My mistake. (THEN) Wait, I do.

VIKTOR
For nice haircut, you want my daughter. She makes you look like handsome porn star.

JOEY
(INTRIGUED) Really?

GINA YELLS FROM THE BACK.

GINA (O.S.)
C'mon back, Joey.

JOEY CROSSES TO GINA'S CHAIR. SHE IS JUST FINISHING WITH AN ELDERLY CLIENT.

JOEY
Are you ready for lunch?

GINA
I'm almost done. (THEN) So, tell me about your day. I'm bored stiff here. (TO HER CLIENT) No offense, dear.

JOEY
Well, I just found out that Alex's husband thinks it's weird that we hang out.

GINA
It is weird. A married woman and a single guy?

CLIENT
Hmm-mmm, not okay.

GINA
Please, dear, shut it.

JOEY
There's nothing going on!

GINA
There better not be. Not with her. I don't trust anything that perky.

JOEY
He shouldn't be threatened by me at all.

GINA
Yeah, well he's gonna be. You're a great-looking guy.

JOEY
(WINKS AT HER) Well, thank you. (THEN) Sorry, sometimes I can't turn that off.

GINA
My advice to you. Don't even meet this guy. You're just going to freak him out more.

JOEY
Yeah, I guess you're right. (SHAKES HEAD) Sometimes I wish I were only an eight-and-a-half.

VIKTOR APPROACHES JOEY.

VIKTOR
You are on TV, yes?

JOEY
(TO GINA) I told you I was very big in the former Soviet Union.

VIKTOR
You give me headshot. I put on wall. Sign: "To Viktor. Is good haircut. I am big Hollywood star." Please. Is good for business to have Wall of Fame.

HE POINTS TO THE WALL. IT'S EMPTY. NOT A HEADSHOT IN SIGHT.

JOEY
Get a lot of big stars in here?

VIKTOR'S DAUGHTER APPROACHES. SHE ESCORTS AN OLD WOMAN, MRS. FERGUSON, WHOSE HAIR LOOKS NIGHTMARISH. IT'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT SHADES OF BLUE, AND LOPSIDED.

VIKTOR
Mrs. Ferguson! My daughter make you look eighteen again!

GINA
Mrs. Ferguson?

MRS. FERGUSON
Oh, Gina! Viktor said you were on vacation.

GINA
(TO VIKTOR) You're stealing her? She's been with me ten years!

VIKTOR
Lies! Get old whore out of my salon.

JOEY
(STEPPING IN) Nobody calls my sister that. Or, as I just realized, this old woman.

GINA
(TO JOEY) I'll handle this. (TO VIKTOR) You cannot let her leave looking like that.

VIKTOR
She look like angel. Now get angel out!

VIKTOR EXITS.

...

This is a later scene in the episode. Apparently, Gina got out of not letting Joey and Michael buy her a salon by telling them she couldn't quit.

SCENE M

INT. SALON VIKTOR - THE NEXT DAY (DAY 4)
(Joey, Gina, Michael, Viktor)

JOEY AND MICHAEL ENTER. THEY APPROACH VIKTOR.

VIKTOR
You bring headshot?

JOEY
No, we want to talk about Gina.

VIKTOR
I have gun under counter.

JOEY
(TO MICHAEL) Okay, you're the talker. Go.

MICHAEL
(NOBLE) No, you put up the money. You've earned the right.

JOEY GRIMACES. HE TAKES A DEEP BREATH.

JOEY
Let Gina out of her contract.

VIKTOR
What? Why?

JOEY
Maybe because it's the right thing to do.

JOEY GETS NO RESPONSE FROM VIKTOR.

JOEY (cont'd)
Or maybe for another reason. Michael, help me...

MICHAEL
This was well thought-out.

JOEY
Thanks. (TO VIKTOR) Just tell me what it'll take -- money, whatever -- to let Gina go. You name it.

VIKTOR
Gina wants out of contract?

MICHAEL
(BEAT) Didn't she tell you?

VIKTOR
Is first I am hearing of this.

MICHAEL
Then why'd she tell us she couldn't quit?

GINA WALKS UP. SHE'S STUNNED TO SEE THEM.

GINA
What are you doing here?

VIKTOR
Why you want to quit? Don't I treat you like favorite slave?

GINA PULLS JOEY AND MICHAEL ASIDE TO HER STATION.

...

There's more to that scene, but as I said, I only have the pages with Viktor, so I don't have the rest of it.

I also have various pages from "Nemesis," "Party" and "Book Club," if anyone wants me to share those.

barwars
10-25-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
I also have various pages from "Nemesis," "Party" and "Book Club," if anyone wants me to share those.

Please do!!

tvfan0101
10-25-2004, 07:45 PM
Yes, by all means share some more. I am always interested in seeing how things are developed from the script to what is finally aired. A rare glimpse at what was originally intended.

LucyCompanyPhan
10-25-2004, 08:40 PM
My favorte line from this episode is:

Alex: You don't think hes right about you are goofy do you?
Joey: I want to say no, you know but I look at these pictures of dragons I drew all day.

^^ I laughed so hard at that.

And this was so heartwarming.

Alex: And it's not just the way you treat other people, it's the way you treat me.
Joey: What do you mean?
Alex: You always ask me about my day. You know I'm lonely, so you include me in stuff and to be this sweet and as great-looking as you are, my husband may not be threatened, but maybe he should be.

barwars
10-25-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by LucyCompanyPhan
Alex: You don't think hes right about you are goofy do you?
Joey: I want to say no, you know but I look at these pictures of dragons I drew all day.

GOOD.

Originally posted by LucyCompanyPhan
Alex: And it's not just the way you treat other people, it's the way you treat me.
Joey: What do you mean?
Alex: You always ask me about my day. You know I'm lonely, so you include me in stuff and to be this sweet and as great-looking as you are, my husband may not be threatened, but maybe he should be.

BAD.

tvfan0101
10-25-2004, 09:45 PM
I enjoyed that whole scene between Joey and Alex about Joey being goofy. The interaction between the two when they both realized what was going on was great.

slackermonkey
10-25-2004, 09:51 PM
I did, too. I don't see anything wrong with there being a will they/won't they relationship as long as it's interesting and done creatively.

The married thing is an angle not too many (if any) sitcoms have done with it, so I think it could be fun to watch.