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Dean Winchester

07-18-2004, 04:23 PM

I am not a Mork fan, but why wouldn't it sell?

1. Happy Days diehards will buy if for the spinoff factor
2. It did score good ratings at least in it's first season
3. Robin Williams went on to a HUGE movie career, and a lot of his fans will buy this since Mork And Mindy was where it all began

EVERY show on DVD has some sort of audience out there. Even a series like Pink Lady And Jeff that ran only 6 episodes does.

EmoJoe

07-18-2004, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
pulling of the shelf or having delievered to their home?

I would be ver surprised if this DVD sells well

"MORK AND MINDY"

Why?

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Rurry007
Why?

Because it's not a TV classic. It was considered very funny and wild when it first premeired in 1978 but that was 26 years ago. This is a new era and that was a different time. No one will talk about M&M 20 years from now. It was just a goofy show that caught the attention of the viewing public when t made it's debut. My prediction is that it won't do well in sales.

spunkygirl

07-18-2004, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Because it's not a TV classic. It was considered very funny and wild when it first premeired in 1978 but that was 26 years ago. This is a new era and that was a different time. No one will talk about M&M 20 years from now. It was just a goofy show that caught the attention of the viewing public when t made it's debut. My prediction is that it won't do well in sales.

Never say never. Never underestimate the impact of any show.

I can see what you're saying, but there's alot of shows people think won't sell well that do. You know I was surprised that Wonder Woman sold as well as it did, I never imagined it was that popular.

Yep there's an audience of some kind out there for every show, even if the ratings sucked for that show.

I would probably buy M&M cause I'm a huge Robin Williams fan.

tvfan0101

07-18-2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Because it's not a TV classic. It was considered very funny and wild when it first premeired in 1978 but that was 26 years ago. This is a new era and that was a different time. No one will talk about M&M 20 years from now. It was just a goofy show that caught the attention of the viewing public when t made it's debut. My prediction is that it won't do well in sales.

Just like everyone predicted that The Mary Tyler Moore Show (a classic show) would do well in sales when it (a classic show) was released on DVD? The way I understand it, the reason the second season isn't being released is because not enough people would buy it (a classic show).

Do I need to repeat it (a classic show) again? Or are we good?

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by tvobscurities
Just like everyone predicted that The Mary Tyler Moore Show (a classic show) would do well in sales when it (a classic show) was released on DVD? The way I understand it, the reason the second season isn't being released is because not enough people would buy it (a classic show).

Do I need to repeat it (a classic show) again? Or are we good?

That probably because MTM is not seen enough in LOCAL syndication like Mork and Mindy. People who were not around at the time these shows aired know nothing about them. Now a show like Sanford and Son is on a National Cable Channel and that's probably why the seasons of that show are selling like hotcakes.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Topanga
Never say never. Never underestimate the impact of any show.

I can see what you're saying, but there's alot of shows people think won't sell well that do. You know I was surprised that Wonder Woman sold as well as it did, I never imagined it was that popular.

Yep there's an audience of some kind out there for every show, even if the ratings sucked for that show.

I would probably buy M&M cause I'm a huge Robin Williams fan.

I expect a lot of males to buy wonder woman on DVD because the woman who played that role was HOT. Which reminds me, let me go to amazon.com right now and order that DVD-lol

Dean Winchester

07-18-2004, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by tvobscurities
Just like everyone predicted that The Mary Tyler Moore Show (a classic show) would do well in sales when it (a classic show) was released on DVD? The way I understand it, the reason the second season isn't being released is because not enough people would buy it (a classic show).

Do I need to repeat it (a classic show) again? Or are we good?

I don't see why they don't just go ahead and release the other MTM seasons? I mean, not every tv show is going to sell the numbers a Simpsons or Sopranos DVD sells, but most of the companies can accept that fact.

EmoJoe

07-18-2004, 05:47 PM

tvfan0101

07-18-2004, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
That probably because MTM is not seen enough in LOCAL syndication like Mork and Mindy. People who were not around at the time these shows aired know nothing about them. Now a show like Sanford and Son is on a National Cable Channel and that's probably why the seasons of that show are selling like hotcakes.

You're not making much sense here. You say that The Mary Tyler Moore show didn't sell well because it wasn't in local syndication but then go on to say Sanford & Son did well because it was on a national channel?

Regardless, I doubt lack of syndication has anything to do with it. It all comes down to money. The eleven seasons of M*A*S*H are being released for cheap and they're doing quite well, the way I understand it. The Mary Tyler Moore Show Season One DVD was expensive (from what I've read, don't have it myself). You can sell DVD sets for outrageous amounts of money but only if the target audience is ready and willing to dish out the cash. Case in point: the Star Trek franchise. Those DVD seasons are expensive!

No, the reason The Mary Tyler Moore Show didn't do well is because the target audience wasn't willing to pay such a high price, as far as I'm concerned. And if I'm not mistaken the bulk of the work on the second season DVD has been completed; it just hasn't been released because the production company isn't willing to do so.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by tvobscurities
You're not making much sense here. You say that The Mary Tyler Moore show didn't sell well because it wasn't in local syndication but then go on to say Sanford & Son did well because it was on a national channel?

Regardless, I doubt lack of syndication has anything to do with it. It all comes down to money. The eleven seasons of M*A*S*H are being released for cheap and they're doing quite well, the way I understand it. The Mary Tyler Moore Show Season One DVD was expensive (from what I've read, don't have it myself). You can sell DVD sets for outrageous amounts of money but only if the target audience is ready and willing to dish out the cash. Case in point: the Star Trek franchise. Those DVD seasons are expensive!

No, the reason The Mary Tyler Moore Show didn't do well is because the target audience wasn't willing to pay such a high price, as far as I'm concerned. And if I'm not mistaken the bulk of the work on the second season DVD has been completed; it just hasn't been released because the production company isn't willing to do so.

What i'm saying is since Sanford and Son is on TV Land younger viewers can decide whether they like the show enough to buy the DVD. Can people who was born in 1985 and after do that with MTM??? MTM is not catching the eye of the new viewer of tv comedy by not being in syndication. Understand what i'm trying to explain to you?

tvfan0101

07-18-2004, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
What i'm saying is since Sanford and Son is on TV Land younger viewers can decide whether they like the show enough to buy the DVD. Can people who was born in 1985 and after do that with MTM??? MTM is not catching the eye of the new viewer of tv comedy by not being in syndication. Understand what i'm trying to explain to you?

Okay, yes, now that you've cleared it up that does make sense. I still don't agree, however. I understand what you're trying to say and while it works well in theory how many "younger viewers" do you know who enjoy classic television and watch TV Land? And you can't use this board as an example.

I just don't think that many new/younger viewers are getting introduced to either Sanford & Son or The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Thus, I still maintain that the reason The Mary Tyler Moore Show didn't sell well is because of money.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by tvobscurities
Okay, yes, now that you've cleared it up that does make sense. I still don't agree, however. I understand what you're trying to say and while it works well in theory how many "younger viewers" do you know who enjoy classic television and watch TV Land? And you can't use this board as an example.

I just don't think that many new/younger viewers are getting introduced to either Sanford & Son or The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Thus, I still maintain that the reason The Mary Tyler Moore Show didn't sell well is because of money.

Someone on the MTM board said it didn't sell well because the DVD was poorly promoted.

Dean Winchester

07-18-2004, 06:18 PM

tvfan0101

07-18-2004, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Someone on the MTM board said it didn't sell well because the DVD was poorly promoted.

That could be a factor, although from what I've read from the links at the MTM board here and at TVShowsOnDVD.com it was promoted quite a bit. Just how much promotion can you give a DVD set, anyways? I've seen a few promos on TV but those are just the sf/fantasty shows, nothing else. There's only so much you can promote.

Dean Winchester

07-18-2004, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by tvobscurities
That could be a factor, although from what I've read from the links at the MTM board here and at TVShowsOnDVD.com it was promoted quite a bit. Just how much promotion can you give a DVD set, anyways? I've seen a few promos on TV but those are just the sf/fantasty shows, nothing else. There's only so much you can promote.

again, I don't see why they don't release the rest of the seasons, but maybe with less promotion? If it sold 200,000-300,000 copies, seasons 2-7 will sell around the same ballpark. I mean, Charlie's Angels season 1 sold less than Columbia expected, but instead of scrapping the series, they just put less promotion into the season 2 DVD and released it.

barwars

07-18-2004, 07:16 PM

I have a very good feeling that MTM - Season 2 will be released, because it costs TV companies MILLIONS to restore old TV shows to DVD standards.

Season 2 of MTM has already been restored, now they're just trying to figure out how to package and sell it to make a little money to get back SOME of that Millions of dollars.

barwars

07-18-2004, 07:17 PM

Anyways.... selling or not, Paramount plans to release every season of M&M on DVD.
Like I said in my previous post, they probably spent millions to restore it, and Ive read they have all 4 seasons planned to be released.

spunkygirl

07-18-2004, 07:19 PM

Solomon, I read that with the MTM set, that it was expensive because of all the extras and the fact that the co. retouched the episodes that they look like it was filmed today, which also drove up the price of the set, and I guess people weren't willing to pay that much for a tv show that old.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Topanga
Solomon, I read that with the MTM set, that it was expensive because of all the extras and the fact that the co. retouched the episodes that they look like it was filmed today, which also drove up the price of the set, and I guess people weren't willing to pay that much for a tv show that old.

I wonder what the price was for season 1 of MTM. Anyone know?

barwars

07-18-2004, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Topanga
the fact that the co. retouched the episodes that they look like it was filmed today, which also drove up the price of the set

That's exactly it.
Fox has said that Season 2 has already been restored, so the hard part is done.
If they release it on DVD with no special features (or any, if they've already been done) and just expect Season 1 numbers.... its just easy money.

They probably wont get the millions back they spent restoring it, but their deficit will be lower if they release Season 2 (at least, but all 7 would be prefered)

barwars

07-18-2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I wonder what the price was for season 1 of MTM. Anyone know?

MSRP $49.99

I got mine at Media Play for $38.99 back in March.
It wasnt a total blind buy, I had seen about 9 or 10 episodes, but what I had seen -- was perfect.

Now its one of my top 20.

spunkygirl

07-18-2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I wonder what the price was for season 1 of MTM. Anyone know?

I might be wrong, but I thought I read that it was priced at $ 80, maybe someone else knows?

barwars

07-18-2004, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Topanga
I might be wrong, but I thought I read that it was priced at $ 80, maybe someone else knows?

Nope, MSRP $49.99

Maybe it started at 80.... but 50 is about average for TVDVDs (with special features)

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by barwars
MSRP $49.99

I got mine at Media Play for $38.99 back in March.
It wasnt a total blind buy, I had seen about 9 or 10 episodes, but what I had seen -- was perfect.

Now its one of my top 20.

Tha's too much money for MTM. Hell, that too much money for Three's Company too-lol

spunkygirl

07-18-2004, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by barwars
That's exactly it.
Fox has said that Season 2 has already been restored, so the hard part is done.
If they release it on DVD with no special features (or any, if they've already been done) and just expect Season 1 numbers.... its just easy money.

They probably wont get the millions back they spent restoring it, but their deficit will be lower if they release Season 2 (at least, but all 7 would be prefered)

Yep Season 2 is done, and it's gotta be costing them money to keep it from being released, they are taking a big hit because they spent all that money on it. They should release it and get back at least some of the money they put into it.

spunkygirl

07-18-2004, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Tha's too much money for MTM. Hell, that too much money for Three's Company too-lol

I don't think that's too bad. It is for a show as old as the MTM show. I know Boy Meets World Season 1 is priced at $49.99, and it's gonna have some great extras, now that's good for a show as pretty current as it is, plus most stores reduce prices on TV Show DVDs anyways, I mean I paid about 31.00$ for my WTB and A Team DVDs :)

Dean Winchester

07-18-2004, 07:33 PM

why not just release season 2 as they mastered it... and then release 3-7, uncut, but unremastered, and charge $39.99 for it (same price MASH and Three's Company sets go for). I mean, the entire run of Dick Van Dyke (MTM's other classic series) has come out on DVD in that interval time, and I doubt any of those sets were much bigger sellers than MTM was.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Topanga
I don't think that's too bad. It is for a show as old as the MTM show. I know Boy Meets World Season 1 is priced at $49.99, and it's gonna have some great extras, now that's good for a show as pretty current as it is, plus most stores reduce prices on TV Show DVDs anyways, I mean I paid about 31.00$ for my WTB and A Team DVDs :)

Why in the hell is BMW selling for $50.00? Are you kiddin me? You got to be kiddin me

spunkygirl

07-18-2004, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Why in the hell is BMW selling for $50.00? Are you kiddin me? You got to be kiddin me

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001I55VU/qid=1090194388/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-5536805-5035949?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

Nope, I have no idea, :lol:

Probably because of all the extras:

DVD Features:

* All 22 episodes plus the pilot episode
* Outtakes and bloopers
* "Yesterday and Today" - behind the scenes
* Audio commentaries

and many more not yet listed

I do know that 4 of the actors are doing commentaries, this is gonna be loaded with some great extras, it's def. worth it IMO.

It's gonna sell well, this is a show that was in high demand for a release :)

tvfan0101

07-18-2004, 07:49 PM

Companies set prices because they think/know people will buy their product. In some cases, like the Star Trek shows on DVD, it works. It seems that with The Mary Tyler Moore Show things didn't work out.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 07:52 PM

I wonder will That's My Mama or Welcome Back Kotter will be that high in price when they are released on DVD

vashti1999

07-18-2004, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Why in the hell is BMW selling for $50.00? Are you kiddin me? You got to be kiddin me

The dvd will always sell for less than the list/srp and will certainly be discounted more when it's released to stores, so it'll probably sell for under $40.

vashti1999

07-18-2004, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I wonder will That's My Mama or Welcome Back Kotter will be that high in price when they are released on DVD

Welcome Back Kotter maybe, That's My Mama, no.

TVFactFan

07-18-2004, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by vashti1999
Welcome Back Kotter maybe, That's My Mama, no.

Yeah That's My Mama will prpbably be similar to the Jeffersons and Good Times in price. Around $21.99

barwars

07-18-2004, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Yeah That's My Mama will prpbably be similar to the Jeffersons and Good Times in price. Around $21.99

That's My Mama is probably at the bottom of studio's lists on their schedule.

robyrob

07-18-2004, 11:22 PM

Mork and Mindy is selling for $26.67 on Amazon - that is a great value, i dont see why M&M fans wouldn't buy it

vashti1999

08-10-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by barwars
I have a very good feeling that MTM - Season 2 will be released, because it costs TV companies MILLIONS to restore old TV shows to DVD standards.

Season 2 of MTM has already been restored, now they're just trying to figure out how to package and sell it to make a little money to get back SOME of that Millions of dollars.

I think there'll eventually be more MTM seasons released too. It's been nearly two years since season one came out, and tv on dvd has only gotten more popular since then, including older shows. You have to figure that there wouldn't be more seasons of Land of The Lost (no offense, I want that too) available than there would be of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. I would think MTM season 2 would do well if it comes out now.

I just got my MTM season 1 set in the mail today, interesting card included in the box:

"Continue your collection with Moore laughs from Season Two! The Complete Second Season on DVD in a 4-disc Collector's Edition!

Available March 2003*

And in small print:

*Date subject to change

How true :rolleyes: