jamesanthony
06-08-2004, 06:46 PM
Another follow-up post on the emmy awards. During the entire decade from 1960-70 there were collectively only 10 comedy actors nominated for regular supporting roles in sitcoms (Tim Conway from McHales's Navy was a nominee in 1963). In some years drama and comedy actors were lumped together. In some years these were lumped together with actresses and performers from one-shot shows or guest stars. Very odd to see someone like Don Knotts of Any Griffith beat out dramatic actresses. The list starts from 1966 as the category more or less normalized itself at this point.
What do you all think of the choices?
1966-
Don Knotts- Andy Griffith Show- WINNER
Frank Gorshin- Batman
Werner Klemperer- Hogan's HEroes
Morey Amsterdam- Dick van Dyke Show
NOTE: Knotts won for a guest appearance as he had quit in 1965. Frank Gorshin was up for tman's debut episode. Arguably if he got in his co-villians Cesar Romero and Burgess Meredith could have been considered too. People like Frank Sutton from Gomer Pyle were overlooked. Morey Amsterdam's only mention as this year
1967-
Don Knotts- WINNER for another guest appearance. His 5th win in as many nominations
Werner Klemperer
Gale Goron- Lucy Show
1968-
Werner Klemperer- WINNER
Gale Gordon
William Demarest- My Three Sons
Jack Cassidy- He and She
NOTE: Demarest got the only acting nom ever for a My Three Sons' regular this year. Cassidy's show got mentions for 3 actors but wasn't up for best series.
LEFT OUT: Ed Platt, Bernie Koppell and Dick Gautier in Get Smart, David White in Bewitched
1969- In a throwback to the early 60s Werner Klemperer beat two drama actor (Greg Morris and Leonard Nimoy). Ned Glass who had a recurring role as the super on Julia was a loser in a catgory for individual performance by a supporting actor.
1970-
Michael Constantine- Room 222- WINNER
Charles Nelson Reilly- Ghost and Mrs Muir
Werner Klemperer
IMO: Constantine deserved it
1971-
Ed Asner- Mary Tyler Moore
Gale Gordon- Here's Lucy
Michael Constantine
NOTE: This year marks a kind of changing of the guard as Asner represents the new kind of realism , Gordon the old guard and Constantine falls somewhere in between
1972-
Ed Asner- WINNER
Rob Reiner- All in the Family
Ted Knight- Mary Tyler Moore
1973, 74 and 75 (exact same people each time)
Ed Asner- WINNER in 1975
Rob Reiner- WINNER in 1974
Ted Knight - WINNER in 1973
McClean Stevenson- MASH
Gary Burghoff- MASH
1976-
replace Rob Reiner with Abe Vigoda from Barney Miller. Harry Morgan replaced McClean Stevenson in MASH and in this list. Ted Knight was the WINNER
1977- same names as 1976. Gary Burghoff was the one of the youngest WINNERs here
1978-
Rob Reiner- WINNER
Tom Bosley- Happy Days
Gary Burghoff- MASH
Harry Morgan- MASH
Vic Tayback- Alice
NOTE: Reiner won in his last year as the Meathead for an episode in which he and Archie were locked in a cellar.
MISSING: Norman Fell from Three's Company, at least one player from Soap, the Barney Miller players
1979
Robert Guilliame- Soap- WINNER
Gary Burghoff
Harry Morgan
Danny DeVito
Max Gail- Barney Miller
IMO: Guilliame was more deserving for this than for his spinoff series for which he got 5 noms
1980
Harry Morgan- WINNER
Steve Landesburg- Barney Miller
Mike Farell- MASH
Howard Hesseman- WKRP in Cincinatti
Vic Tayback- Alice
NOTE: Hesseman got in but his co-stars Tim Reid and Gordon Jump were also good actors. Only year in which no Taxi actors appear
1981
Danny deVito- WINNER
david Ogden Stiers- MASH
Harry Morgan
Howard Hesseman
Steve Landesburg
1982
Christopher Lloyd- Taxi- WINNER
Danny DeVito
Ron Glass- Barney Miller
Steve Landesburg
David Ogden Stiers
Harry Morgan
NOTE: One of only 2x in which there were 6 names. 2 actors each from 3 shows
1983
Christopher Lloyd- WINNER
Dany DeVito
Harry Morgan
Nicholas Colasanto - Cheers
Eddie Murphy- Saturday Night Live
NOTE: Variety and comedy were combined in the early 80s which explains Murphy's nomination, though his co-star Joe Piscopo arguably could've gotten mentioned too. The only year in which only one MASH actor appears here
1984
Pat Harrington Jr- One Day at A Time- WINNER
Rene Auberjenous (sp?)- Benson
Nicholas Colosanto- Cheers
George Wendt- Cheers
Tom Poston- Newhart
NOTE: I always wondered what Harrington did this year to win given that he was never noted before and the show was in its final season of a very long run. Maybe the Cheers guys were too new to win, Auberjenous not considered significant enough and Poston not special enough to win.
OVERLOOKED: Max Wright, John Fiedler and Charles Robinson from Buffalo Bill
1985
John Larroquette- Night Court- WINNER
Nicholas Colosanto
George Wendt
Michael J Fox- Family Ties
John Ratzenberger- Cheers
NOTE: Cheers is the only show to have 3 actors appear in either any regular comedy acting category, Colosanto is the first actor mentioned here after his death
1986
John Larroquette- WINNER
George Wendt
John Ratzenberger
Tom Poston
Malcolm Jamal Warner- Cosby Show
NOTE: Warner at 16 was the category's youngest nominee. is co-star Keshia Knight Pulliam was only 6 or 7 and was up for supporting actress
1987
replace Warner with Woody Harrelson from Cheers. Larroquette WON again
1988
John Larroquette- WINNER
Woody Harrelson
Peter Scolari- Newhart
Kelsey Grammar- Cheers
George Wendt
1989
Woody Harrelson- WINNER
Peter Scolari
Meschach Taylor- Designing Women
Geore Wendt
Joe Regalbuto- Murphy Brown
NOTE: Woody is the only Cheers actor to win here
1990
Alex Rocco- Famous Teddy Z- WINNER
Kelsey Grammar
Charles Kimbrough- Murphy Brown
Jerry Van Dyke- Coach
Woody Harrelson
NOTE: Teddy Z had the briefest run of any show to ever win an emmy for a comedy series actor
1991
Jonathan Winters- Davis Rules WINNER
Woody Harrelson
Jerry van Dyke
Michael Jeter- Evening Shade
Charles Durning - Evening Shade
1992
Michael Jeter- WINNER
Jerry Van Dyke
Charles Durning
Jay Thomas- Murphy Brown
Harvey Feirstein -Cheers
Jason Alexander- Seinfeld
NOTE: Guests stars and regulars were thrown together this year. Thomas had won in 90 and 91 for his guest role on Murphy. Alexander is this field's biggest loser 7x
1993
Michael Richards- Seinfeld- WINNER
Michael Jeter
Jason Alexander
Rip Torn- Larry Sanders
Jeffrey Tambor- Larry Sanders
NOTE: Repetitiveness becomes commonplace again after this year
1994
Richards wins again. Jerry van Dyke and David Hyde Pirece form Frasier replace Michael Jeter and Jeffrey Tambor
1995
Richards, Alexander, Torn, Hyde Pierce and David Schimmer from Friends.
David Hyde Pierce is the WINNER
1996
Schimmer is out and Tambor is back in. Torn is the first actor from a cable show to win for any regular role
1997
same as 1996. Richards wins a third time
1998
Alexander, Torn, Tambor, Hyde Pierce and Phil Hartman from NewRadio.
David Hyde Pirece is the WINNER
NOTE: Hartman seemingly had to die to get nominated but sympathy went only so far because he didn't win
1999
David Hyde Pierce- WINNER
David Spade- Just Shoot Me
Peter Boyle- Everybody Loves Raymond
John Mahoney- Frasier
Peter McNichol- Ally McBeal
NOTE: The end of Seinfeld and Larry Sanders forced this field to adopt new people
2000
Sean Hayes- Will and Grace-WINNER
Brad Garrett- Everybody Loves Raymond
Peter Boyle
David Hyde Pierce
Peter McNichol
2001
Peter McNichol- WINNER
Sean Hayes
Daid Hyde Pierce
Peter Boyle
Robert Downey Jr- Ally McBeal
NOTE: Downey seemed lilke he would have won
2002
Brad Garrett- WINNER
Sean Hayes
Peter Boyle
David Hyde Pierce
Bryan Cranston- Malcolm in the Middle
NOTE: Cranston is the only case in comedy I can think of of an actor being up for support while the actress who plays his wife is up for lead. In drama it occurred a few times in St Elsewhere, Thirtysomething and Hill St Blues
2003
add John Mahoney to the 5 from 2002. Garrett won again
2004? I wouldn't be surprised to see Garrett, Pierce and Boyle back along with maybe Jeffrey Tambor and I guess Hayes as a habit vote. Maybe the neighbor from Curb Your Enthusiasm as well.
What do you all think of the choices?
1966-
Don Knotts- Andy Griffith Show- WINNER
Frank Gorshin- Batman
Werner Klemperer- Hogan's HEroes
Morey Amsterdam- Dick van Dyke Show
NOTE: Knotts won for a guest appearance as he had quit in 1965. Frank Gorshin was up for tman's debut episode. Arguably if he got in his co-villians Cesar Romero and Burgess Meredith could have been considered too. People like Frank Sutton from Gomer Pyle were overlooked. Morey Amsterdam's only mention as this year
1967-
Don Knotts- WINNER for another guest appearance. His 5th win in as many nominations
Werner Klemperer
Gale Goron- Lucy Show
1968-
Werner Klemperer- WINNER
Gale Gordon
William Demarest- My Three Sons
Jack Cassidy- He and She
NOTE: Demarest got the only acting nom ever for a My Three Sons' regular this year. Cassidy's show got mentions for 3 actors but wasn't up for best series.
LEFT OUT: Ed Platt, Bernie Koppell and Dick Gautier in Get Smart, David White in Bewitched
1969- In a throwback to the early 60s Werner Klemperer beat two drama actor (Greg Morris and Leonard Nimoy). Ned Glass who had a recurring role as the super on Julia was a loser in a catgory for individual performance by a supporting actor.
1970-
Michael Constantine- Room 222- WINNER
Charles Nelson Reilly- Ghost and Mrs Muir
Werner Klemperer
IMO: Constantine deserved it
1971-
Ed Asner- Mary Tyler Moore
Gale Gordon- Here's Lucy
Michael Constantine
NOTE: This year marks a kind of changing of the guard as Asner represents the new kind of realism , Gordon the old guard and Constantine falls somewhere in between
1972-
Ed Asner- WINNER
Rob Reiner- All in the Family
Ted Knight- Mary Tyler Moore
1973, 74 and 75 (exact same people each time)
Ed Asner- WINNER in 1975
Rob Reiner- WINNER in 1974
Ted Knight - WINNER in 1973
McClean Stevenson- MASH
Gary Burghoff- MASH
1976-
replace Rob Reiner with Abe Vigoda from Barney Miller. Harry Morgan replaced McClean Stevenson in MASH and in this list. Ted Knight was the WINNER
1977- same names as 1976. Gary Burghoff was the one of the youngest WINNERs here
1978-
Rob Reiner- WINNER
Tom Bosley- Happy Days
Gary Burghoff- MASH
Harry Morgan- MASH
Vic Tayback- Alice
NOTE: Reiner won in his last year as the Meathead for an episode in which he and Archie were locked in a cellar.
MISSING: Norman Fell from Three's Company, at least one player from Soap, the Barney Miller players
1979
Robert Guilliame- Soap- WINNER
Gary Burghoff
Harry Morgan
Danny DeVito
Max Gail- Barney Miller
IMO: Guilliame was more deserving for this than for his spinoff series for which he got 5 noms
1980
Harry Morgan- WINNER
Steve Landesburg- Barney Miller
Mike Farell- MASH
Howard Hesseman- WKRP in Cincinatti
Vic Tayback- Alice
NOTE: Hesseman got in but his co-stars Tim Reid and Gordon Jump were also good actors. Only year in which no Taxi actors appear
1981
Danny deVito- WINNER
david Ogden Stiers- MASH
Harry Morgan
Howard Hesseman
Steve Landesburg
1982
Christopher Lloyd- Taxi- WINNER
Danny DeVito
Ron Glass- Barney Miller
Steve Landesburg
David Ogden Stiers
Harry Morgan
NOTE: One of only 2x in which there were 6 names. 2 actors each from 3 shows
1983
Christopher Lloyd- WINNER
Dany DeVito
Harry Morgan
Nicholas Colasanto - Cheers
Eddie Murphy- Saturday Night Live
NOTE: Variety and comedy were combined in the early 80s which explains Murphy's nomination, though his co-star Joe Piscopo arguably could've gotten mentioned too. The only year in which only one MASH actor appears here
1984
Pat Harrington Jr- One Day at A Time- WINNER
Rene Auberjenous (sp?)- Benson
Nicholas Colosanto- Cheers
George Wendt- Cheers
Tom Poston- Newhart
NOTE: I always wondered what Harrington did this year to win given that he was never noted before and the show was in its final season of a very long run. Maybe the Cheers guys were too new to win, Auberjenous not considered significant enough and Poston not special enough to win.
OVERLOOKED: Max Wright, John Fiedler and Charles Robinson from Buffalo Bill
1985
John Larroquette- Night Court- WINNER
Nicholas Colosanto
George Wendt
Michael J Fox- Family Ties
John Ratzenberger- Cheers
NOTE: Cheers is the only show to have 3 actors appear in either any regular comedy acting category, Colosanto is the first actor mentioned here after his death
1986
John Larroquette- WINNER
George Wendt
John Ratzenberger
Tom Poston
Malcolm Jamal Warner- Cosby Show
NOTE: Warner at 16 was the category's youngest nominee. is co-star Keshia Knight Pulliam was only 6 or 7 and was up for supporting actress
1987
replace Warner with Woody Harrelson from Cheers. Larroquette WON again
1988
John Larroquette- WINNER
Woody Harrelson
Peter Scolari- Newhart
Kelsey Grammar- Cheers
George Wendt
1989
Woody Harrelson- WINNER
Peter Scolari
Meschach Taylor- Designing Women
Geore Wendt
Joe Regalbuto- Murphy Brown
NOTE: Woody is the only Cheers actor to win here
1990
Alex Rocco- Famous Teddy Z- WINNER
Kelsey Grammar
Charles Kimbrough- Murphy Brown
Jerry Van Dyke- Coach
Woody Harrelson
NOTE: Teddy Z had the briefest run of any show to ever win an emmy for a comedy series actor
1991
Jonathan Winters- Davis Rules WINNER
Woody Harrelson
Jerry van Dyke
Michael Jeter- Evening Shade
Charles Durning - Evening Shade
1992
Michael Jeter- WINNER
Jerry Van Dyke
Charles Durning
Jay Thomas- Murphy Brown
Harvey Feirstein -Cheers
Jason Alexander- Seinfeld
NOTE: Guests stars and regulars were thrown together this year. Thomas had won in 90 and 91 for his guest role on Murphy. Alexander is this field's biggest loser 7x
1993
Michael Richards- Seinfeld- WINNER
Michael Jeter
Jason Alexander
Rip Torn- Larry Sanders
Jeffrey Tambor- Larry Sanders
NOTE: Repetitiveness becomes commonplace again after this year
1994
Richards wins again. Jerry van Dyke and David Hyde Pirece form Frasier replace Michael Jeter and Jeffrey Tambor
1995
Richards, Alexander, Torn, Hyde Pierce and David Schimmer from Friends.
David Hyde Pierce is the WINNER
1996
Schimmer is out and Tambor is back in. Torn is the first actor from a cable show to win for any regular role
1997
same as 1996. Richards wins a third time
1998
Alexander, Torn, Tambor, Hyde Pierce and Phil Hartman from NewRadio.
David Hyde Pirece is the WINNER
NOTE: Hartman seemingly had to die to get nominated but sympathy went only so far because he didn't win
1999
David Hyde Pierce- WINNER
David Spade- Just Shoot Me
Peter Boyle- Everybody Loves Raymond
John Mahoney- Frasier
Peter McNichol- Ally McBeal
NOTE: The end of Seinfeld and Larry Sanders forced this field to adopt new people
2000
Sean Hayes- Will and Grace-WINNER
Brad Garrett- Everybody Loves Raymond
Peter Boyle
David Hyde Pierce
Peter McNichol
2001
Peter McNichol- WINNER
Sean Hayes
Daid Hyde Pierce
Peter Boyle
Robert Downey Jr- Ally McBeal
NOTE: Downey seemed lilke he would have won
2002
Brad Garrett- WINNER
Sean Hayes
Peter Boyle
David Hyde Pierce
Bryan Cranston- Malcolm in the Middle
NOTE: Cranston is the only case in comedy I can think of of an actor being up for support while the actress who plays his wife is up for lead. In drama it occurred a few times in St Elsewhere, Thirtysomething and Hill St Blues
2003
add John Mahoney to the 5 from 2002. Garrett won again
2004? I wouldn't be surprised to see Garrett, Pierce and Boyle back along with maybe Jeffrey Tambor and I guess Hayes as a habit vote. Maybe the neighbor from Curb Your Enthusiasm as well.