jack, possibility living as a straight man

[keithrobbins]

while roper would have never aloud it, in my opinion, i believe furley would have. after watching the love lesson, towards the end, the girls bring up furley to talk things out with jack, to see if something could be worked out. of course jack was with another woman (or "man" to furley), and it cleaned the slate.

however, had jack NOT been with another person at that time, and knowing that ol R.F. is a softy at heart (the episode paradise lost comes to mind) i think he would have approved of jack's living with two women and actually LIE to bart.

of course the show couldn't do this for i guess plot reasons.

the one thing i always got mad about was the touching episode baby it's cold inside jack could have easily lived as a straight man after that heart to heart. however the writers changed it so that furley thought he was delirious.

my theory however, and this is as a core fan looking in and overanalyzing, heh, is that furley didn't want to come to grasp with what he would have to do if jack was straight, so he decided to turn a deaf ear, to be ignorant on purpose.

please tell me what you guys think.


keith

[Chain Gang Member]

I think Chrissy's Hospitality showed that Furley would've let Jack stay knowing that he was straight,but I guess the producer thought they would lose ratings

[keithrobbins]

and i think they probably were right. i think three's company was geared at having a framework for comedy each show rather than a developing plot show to show.

some of my fav 3C moments are the emotional ones. : )

[hawaii five-o]

The gay thing started to get old after a while. It wouldn't have hurt if Mr. Furley knew the truth.

[BuffaloBill]

bottom line in the real world the vast amount of people that jack and roper/furley knew together...be it neighbors, tenents, regal begal, angelino's, etc.....somewhere along the line someone would have spilled the beans on jack that he wasnt gay. i'm sure roper and furley joked about it to many, many, that he was gay...so keith your right it got old after a while and the should have set the record straight----ha ha....................i always thought the perfect ending should have been that furley would have told jack that he and roper knew for years that jack pulled the wool on them, and they just played along for either leverage(like not paying the rent) or just so he could raz him about it.

[keithrobbins]

bill that is genius. i often felt that the last season had SO much potential to really wrap things up, and give it a proper ending, and i feel robbed when i look back on what we got. examples being furley/jack angle, and even the jack and janet angle.

now here is a question, would you forfeit a three's a crowd season for a "give the fans what they want" ending.. or would you have rather the TAC show run it's course having one more season of jack.

personally i would have liked to see the split ends tied..

[BuffaloBill]

keith i felt TAC missed its mark for an ending. to run a character for 9 years-jack tripper- and just cancel the show was dumb. but you have to look at the mentality 20 years ago....rattings fair to poor, get rid of it. i thought it should have been given one more year, and let the writing reflect that by tying up loose ends. the only shows i can think of that got finality to them were MASH and
happy days. most people think suzanne somers cut her own throat...wrong, it was the network being cheap. she was a renigade when you think about it for todays shows--ala friends and seinfeld were the entire cast negociated big bucks for themselves. the only think she did wrong was trying to get the $ on her own....instead of joing in w/ritter and dewitt. if three's company were in 2004-the top rated show , you would see the same $ being thrown at them as friends. i think the producers could have used suzanne as at rattings trump card, but were too stuborn and had no forsight thinking. i cant understand with all the power john ritter had , you would think he want a proper sendoff for his show and character. like i said fast forward 20 years to today, i think for a ratings smash you would have seen jack marry chrissy-the witty x mass snow from seasons one and two.

[Chain Gang Member]

I definently think that Furley would've let him stay as a straight man because in the episode Snow Job,Furley said he would kick Jack out if he & Lana had something going on

[keithrobbins]

yea, TC deserved more than what it got. i would have loved to have seen a wrap up season.. but even at the point of TAC it would have seemed like an additional two chapters "after the fact" that they all left wouldn’t feel natural.. however, as a fan, i think "sure, the more the better". ; )

you make a good point about suzanne/TC in 2004. The money scene may have been diff.

Chrissy coming back would no doubt bring in some ratings, but as a writer, i'd feel guilty doing that. maybe i'm bias (which i am!) but i think that Jack and Janet would have been a great write off. Sure bring Chrissy back, and have some ‘awkward moment’ jokes with her and Terri, but.. i can't help but feel that it would flow better if Janet and Jack got back together. Chrissy would have been one more awkward questionable jump, she's back and all the sudden Jack realizes he loves her? I am not dismissing your idea, which would no doubt grab the ratings. However from my heart, I wouldn’t feel right with that.

Tying Jack and Janet into the Furley scenario, even if Furley didn't know Jack was straight, would be plausible if they got together after all these years. Perhaps in some sorta symbolism, Jack saw the error of his "ways" (with men to Furley and floosy women to Janet) and therefore being a couple they moved out, however this time, on there own will.

Perhaps this would leave a Larry/Chrissy or Larry/Terri (I’d like a Larry Terri because Terri would whip him into shape). To the now vacant apartment, and a whole new slew of troubles TC would cutely leave you with. Plus it makes it easier for the two to guest star in TAC.

This either leaves Chrissy with Larry or simply Chrisst brings a ratings shot in, on a farewell guest appearance.

all hypothetical though my man, tell me what you think




Jack Hammer, I think there was probably a couple of scenes we are not thinking of that Furley would have aloud it. That’s definitely another possibility.

[BuffaloBill]

jack and janet marriage would have been an excellent ending. this would have connected the last two remaining stars from the original show full circle. terri was always the wild card, but i never felt "love" connection for both characters. the worst possible senerio was to bond larry with any of the girls. the guy was a baffoon (character wise, good for the show) and it would have been very bad mix with any of the girls. none of them found chemistry with larry for all those years, so why in the end??? wouldnt make sense. larry was always desinted to be a bachlor. here's poss ending for 3's a crowd....jack married vicky last show....everyone is there this time, from the two bartenders, greedy gretchen, lana, rev snow/wife, jacks parents, janets parents, etc. it would be a montoge of everyone who played a role in their lives, not ness have speaking lines, but just too have a special reuion and farewell to not only the show but the fans as well. jack and janet mention to each other they both bought part of a duplex/town house recently and cant wait to mait neighbors. well you guested it they both move in on the same day.....jack and janet together again, with a stunned look on their faces when they see each other....now thats full circle.

[Janet McFarland]

I never saw the ending to Threes Company , but I heard about it. The whole thing with Terri leaving , Jack w/ Vicky , Janet w/ Phillip was all wrong. Like someone said earlier , they shouldve had the finale with the people who were really in their lives. Like Lana visiting, Cindy visiting , Chrissy coming back in a way that wouldnt seem phony , the Ropers visiting , something similar to that. The Vicky and Phillip thing was all wrong. Jack and Janet shouldve gotten together , definitely. They were the 2 main characters of the show , and by what .. 8 years? .. they shouldve felt something for each other. There were so many moments and episodes between them that you could just see it ( Ropers Niece , A Night to Remember , She Loves Me , She Loves Me Not ) Mate For Each Other was also another one. I mean , in the beginning of the ep. , that couple came to visit , and the man said to Jack that you just put in what you want and thats exactly what you get. Well , Jack put in Janets description and Janet put in Jacks description , so it was fate! Okay , sorry I`m rambling :rolleyes: lol , but thats what I think!

[Cashodeen]

NVM

[Janet Tripper]

Originally posted by Trippergrl
Okay , sorry I`m rambling :rolleyes: lol , but thats what I think!

L:DL!!!! that was such a Jack thing:lol: ! Anyhow!!! I so agree! JACK AND JANET was ment to be! :D!!!

:wave:

[Janet McFarland]

Originally posted by Janet Tripper
L:DL!!!! that was such a Jack thing:lol: ! Anyhow!!! I so agree! JACK AND JANET was ment to be! :D!!!

:wave:


Glad you agree! :D

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by Trippergrl
I never saw the ending to Threes Company , but I heard about it. The whole thing with Terri leaving , Jack w/ Vicky , Janet w/ Phillip was all wrong. Like someone said earlier , they shouldve had the finale with the people who were really in their lives. Like Lana visiting, Cindy visiting , Chrissy coming back in a way that wouldnt seem phony , the Ropers visiting , something similar to that. The Vicky and Phillip thing was all wrong. Jack and Janet shouldve gotten together , definitely. They were the 2 main characters of the show , and by what .. 8 years? .. they shouldve felt something for each other. There were so many moments and episodes between them that you could just see it ( Ropers Niece , A Night to Remember , She Loves Me , She Loves Me Not ) Mate For Each Other was also another one. I mean , in the beginning of the ep. , that couple came to visit , and the man said to Jack that you just put in what you want and thats exactly what you get. Well , Jack put in Janets description and Janet put in Jacks description , so it was fate! Okay , sorry I`m rambling :rolleyes: lol , but thats what I think!


Janet and Jack?? Even the writers knew that two people being platonic friends for 8 years would have never lead to a romantic relationship. Which is why they never gave a janet/jack hook up any thought.

[keithrobbins]

Janet and Jack?? Even the writers knew that two people being platonic friends for 8 years would have never lead to a romantic relationship. Which is why they never gave a janet/jack hook up any thought.
most "working" relationships work off of not people who complement each other’s weakness', but those who are friends. Think about it, after the physical attraction wears off (and it will.. do not kid yourself) most working couples claim that they are married to their best friend. So to dismiss this as rubbish is insane. it's simple facts.

thanks for the excellent reinforcement of this theory that the writers wrote in mate for each other, Trpprgirl.

[Janet McFarland]

Originally posted by keithrobbins
most "working" relationships work off of not people who complement each other’s weakness', but those who are friends. Think about it, after the physical attraction wears off (and it will.. do not kid yourself) most working couples claim that they are married to their best friend. So to dismiss this as rubbish is insane. it's simple facts.

thanks for the excellent reinforcement of this theory that the writers wrote in mate for each other, Trpprgirl.

No prob! I just think they made a GREAT couple no matter what Analyzer says! I mean , yeah I know they were platonic friends , but there were so many moments you could just see they felt something. So dont tell me what I already know about them being platonic friends , b/c I think I know that by now!

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by Trippergrl
No prob! I just think they made a GREAT couple no matter what Analyzer says! I mean , yeah I know they were platonic friends , but there were so many moments you could just see they felt something. So dont tell me what I already know about them being platonic friends , b/c I think I know that by now!



Do you realize that a Jack and Janet relationship would have been boring because.....

[Chain Gang Member]

I never saw the ending to Threes Company , but I heard about it. The whole thing with Terri leaving , Jack w/ Vicky , Janet w/ Phillip was all wrong. Like someone said earlier , they shouldve had the finale with the people who were really in their lives. Like Lana visiting, Cindy visiting , Chrissy coming back in a way that wouldnt seem phony , the Ropers visiting , something similar to that. The Vicky and Phillip thing was all wrong. Jack and Janet shouldve gotten together , definitely. They were the 2 main characters of the show , and by what .. 8 years? .. they shouldve felt something for each other. There were so many moments and episodes between them that you could just see it ( Ropers Niece , A Night to Remember , She Loves Me , She Loves Me Not ) Mate For Each Other was also another one. I mean , in the beginning of the ep. , that couple came to visit , and the man said to Jack that you just put in what you want and thats exactly what you get. Well , Jack put in Janets description and Janet put in Jacks description , so it was fate! Okay , sorry I`m rambling lol , but thats what I think!

That's what I think too!

[keithrobbins]

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Do you realize that a Jack and Janet relationship would have been boring because.....

because?.. i doubt it'd be boring, look at all the threads/support for it now. it's still being talked about 20 years later, and still being argued over.

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by keithrobbins
because?.. i doubt it'd be boring, look at all the threads/support for it now. it's still being talked about 20 years later, and still being argued over.


Jack and Janet were funny to watch as friends but as a couple it would have been boring and people would have lost interest., THE END.

[Chain Gang Member]

I saw an article about Three's A Crowd that said that Mary Cadorette was dull and that Joyce DeWitt would've been better

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by Jackhammer
I saw an article about Three's A Crowd that said that Mary Cadorette was dull and that Joyce DeWitt would've been better


And where was this article from?

[Chain Gang Member]

I forget.Last year,I was surfing the net and found an article that said that.I'll try to find for you

[Janet McFarland]

Dont find the article for him! Dont even bother! Everyone in this thread wanted Jack and Janet together and thats what we think , and if he doesnt agree , then fine , we dont need him to bring us down.
Oh and people wouldnt lose interest in them being a couple. They would want to see how they made it as a couple!

[Chain Gang Member]

O-K

[Sean Snow]

On the subject of the original topic, I think that RF would've let Jack continue to live with the girls. At first, he might feel duty-bound to evict him, but I'm sure one of the girls would easily convince him to let Jack stay.

As for the finale...I'm on the fence with whether Jack or Janet should've really hooked up. I suppose it would've been nice if there hadn't been a follow-up (Three's a Crowd), but if they still were going to spin-off Jack and his love interest into their own show I think it'd be best to get a new girl or Chrissy (since she has been out of town and would've gotten ratings...they could've made Jack/Chrissy like the modern day George/Gracie). After all, whenever a show marries two of its current popular characters it isn't usually good for the show...for instance, look at 99 and Max on Get Smart. After they got married, that show became really bad.

IMO, the major problem with Vicky was that she wasn't introduced early enough. Same with Philip. They should've been introduced much earlier in the season so viewers could get to know them. The writers also should've given them more of a personality.

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by Sean Snow
On the subject of the original topic, I think that RF would've let Jack continue to live with the girls. At first, he might feel duty-bound to evict him, but I'm sure one of the girls would easily convince him to let Jack stay.

As for the finale...I'm on the fence with whether Jack or Janet should've really hooked up. I suppose it would've been nice if there hadn't been a follow-up (Three's a Crowd), but if they still were going to spin-off Jack and his love interest into their own show I think it'd be best to get a new girl or Chrissy (since she has been out of town and would've gotten ratings...they could've made Jack/Chrissy like the modern day George/Gracie). After all, whenever a show marries two of its current popular characters it isn't usually good for the show...for instance, look at 99 and Max on Get Smart. After they got married, that show became really bad.

IMO, the major problem with Vicky was that she wasn't introduced early enough. Same with Philip. They should've been introduced much earlier in the season so viewers could get to know them. The writers also should've given them more of a personality.


Phillip didn't need a personality because he wasn't going to be seen again.

[Sean Snow]

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Phillip didn't need a personality because he wasn't going to be seen again.

I know, but it would've made people a lot happier, IMO. It just seemed odd that such a dull person who never seemed to do anything just swept Janet off her feet in such a short period of time.

It would've been nice if we had been allowed to see their relationship develop over the course of the season, IMO.

[TVFactFan]

Originally posted by Sean Snow
I know, but it would've made people a lot happier, IMO. It just seemed odd that such a dull person who never seemed to do anything just swept Janet off her feet in such a short period of time.

It would've been nice if we had been allowed to see their relationship develop over the course of the season, IMO.



Look like the writers were under pressure to wrap up the series.

[Sean Snow]

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Look like the writers were under pressure to wrap up the series.

Indeed. It seemed like they were more concerned with the spin-off than giving TC a proper send-off. :o

[keithrobbins]

Originally posted by Trippergrl
Oh and people wouldnt lose interest in them being a couple. They would want to see how they made it as a couple!

exactly. i always thought if the reunion ever took place.. that Jack and Janet would be together. if in the 8th season they spent a whole season building up that romance, and i was old enough to appreciate it at the time ; ) i woulda been glued to the tv.

[Chain Gang Member]

In "She Loves Me,She Loves Me Not",the crowd cheered when they thought Janet wrote in the quiz about wanting to have an affair with Jack

[keithrobbins]

i didn't notice that! thanks, i'll have to look out for it. that's awesome. too bad the writers were deaf at the time. :wave:

[BuffaloBill]

its clear that not only the producers had deaf ears but once again had no forsight. heres what i mean. just looking back at one of the thread polls its clear that suzanne somers is among the top 3 favorite all time characters. when alan hamel brought the idea of have chrissy come back to be jack's husband....they simple dismissed it they didnt want to be bothered. which leads to the question- if this character is still as popular (or maybe more) now 20 years later.. wouldn't have been smart to do an audience research to see if this would have worked. logic says yes. but they had no intention. unforntunately they were a bunch of old men never second guessed by anyone, and wanted it therewere.
the guy janet married was so foney-you couldn't possible have believed the way janet was picky with men over the years...ala
jack....there is no way that she would have been attracted to a jelly fish(wuss) like that. now w/terri- come on no one just picks up and leaves a good job in LA, to take a chance on finding a dream job in Hawaii in their 30's....oviously if your taking off like that you got something to hide or you werent close to anyone to begin with. finally what was wrong with dating a roommate. it seems like the writers made it seem like it was like sleeping w/your sister. give me a break. in reality if jack and janet lived w/each other for eight years, going thru everything they went threw...it was ovious they would have realized they were solemates. the end with w him falling in love w/vickey, how many times did we see it were jack was in love...no doubt this was it-looked what happened-one show and out for his girlfriend...that's why vicky was hard to believe. heck his reaccuring girlfriend linda was on at least 3 times-that oviously never went anywere.

[tcfan1974]

Originally posted by keithrobbins
most "working" relationships work off of not people who complement each other’s weakness', but those who are friends. Think about it, after the physical attraction wears off (and it will.. do not kid yourself) most working couples claim that they are married to their best friend. So to dismiss this as rubbish is insane. it's simple facts.

thanks for the excellent reinforcement of this theory that the writers wrote in mate for each other, Trpprgirl.

I so agree, Keith, sometimes you find yourself attracted to your best friend. You know what they say, it's not the looks that is most important, as stated so very well, it wears off, it's personality that is unique. Sometimes it takes time to get to know a person, sometimes you find out more about a person having known him/her for a couple of years (see Janet-Jack) and it's good to take your time because you wouldn't want to rush into a relationship and make the same mistake over and over again. You live and learn and live to 'love' a person with their quirks...

While I am sure that the writers of the show merely thought of Jack and Janet as best friends, you can't deny the chemistry they had on the show..yes, we can't go back and change times but I agree with those who said that they would have made a good couple cause they knew each other very well and knew they could rely on each other...

Trippergrl, I agree. Don't even bother to discuss things like these with people like TVShow Analyzer. It seems that these kind of people only visit message boards to stir up trouble - waste of time to even respond to them when they can't talk about things like these in an appropriate manner and with some respect. Let them talk, they'll get tired eventually, more or less..I've just learned to ignore them..

Now, as for RF, I think you're right, he would have let Jack stay with his roomies...he seemed like a real 'hip' person, if I may say so ;)...

Hope everyone had a nice Easter...

[keithrobbins]

Originally posted by BuffaloBill
its clear that suzanne somers is among the top 3 favorite all time characters. which leads to the question- if this character is still as popular (or maybe more) now 20 years later.. wouldn't have been smart to do an audience research to see if this would have worked. logic says yes. but they had no intention.
yea, how many girls did they cast before they found the and i use this term loosley "right" girl for TAC? It's a shame they didn't poll the audience, or look in front of them!
Originally posted by BuffaloBill
you couldn't possible have believed the way janet was picky with men over the years. finally what was wrong with dating a roommate. it seems like the writers made it seem like it was like sleeping w/your sister. give me a break. in reality if jack and janet lived w/each other for eight years, going thru everything they went threw...it was ovious they would have realized they were solemates. the end with w him falling in love w/vickey, how many times did we see it were jack was in love...no doubt this was it-looked what happened-one show and out for his girlfriend...that's why vicky was hard to believe. heck his reaccuring girlfriend linda was on at least 3 times-that oviously never went anywere.

this is hysterical bill! this is just like one of those "how do they think they can get away with this" writing jobs. i doubt melrose place was that bold to knock off characters like TC did at the end (but they were). Janet finding the guy of her life in three eps.. fine.. i don't care for it, but i can live with that. however terri at the same point in time as you said at 30, leaving her job. bill you are right. i think you need to start a thread solely on what terri was hiding. :lol: what about phillip though, you can't deny phillip was hiding something. and i seriously believe that on how they portrayed his character. [maybe phillip = rich felipe in disguise? hmm.. heh]
Originally posted by tcfan1974
I so agree, Keith, sometimes you find yourself attracted to your best friend. You know what they say, it's not the looks that is most important, as stated so very well, it wears off, it's personality that is unique. Sometimes it takes time to get to know a person, sometimes you find out more about a person having known him/her for a couple of years (see Janet-Jack) and it's good to take your time because you wouldn't want to rush into a relationship and make the same mistake over and over again. You live and learn and live to 'love' a person with their quirks...

While I am sure that the writers of the show merely thought of Jack and Janet as best friends, you can't deny the chemistry they had on the show..yes, we can't go back and change times but I agree with those who said that they would have made a good couple cause they knew each other very well and knew they could rely on each other...
i'm glad you agree. when you are friends it works out better simply because you have more stuff to talk about. plus plot wise, i mean there could have been more possibilites in my head, because we would have known janet. now they will face life together as a couple, and it gives the sitcom a fresh new angle on how a young couple aproaches life. ah well.. hope you had a good easter as well.