What would you legalize?

[guest000]

If something has to be legalized, it would be..

Soft drug
Prostitution
Revenge Killing
Gay marriage
Polygamy
Indecent exposure
Other

[Jenya]

Originally posted by guest000
If something has to be legalized, it would be..

Revenge Killing


WHAT!!??!! :confused: :lol:

[Brent88]

None of the above.

[EricIdlefan]

Guest000 If you get sent to the electric chair don't come crying to us to bail you out!!

[guest000]

In my opinion, Soft drug(only a soft one), Prostitution and Gay marriage, don't hurt anybody. So why is there a problem?

[skees53]

Originally posted by guest000
In my opinion, Soft drug(only a soft one), Prostitution and Gay marriage, don't hurt anybody. So why is there a problem?

I'm okay with gay marriage and legalizing some drugs (mainly just marijuana)... but I'm not so sure about prostitution. There are a lot of deadly dangers involved with prostitution.

Now as far as revenge killing... well, that is already legalized in some sense unfortunately... the death penalty.

[Central Perk]

I'd defintely legalize gay marriage.

[Seth]

"Indecent" exposure (I've NEVER understood why we're one of the most uptight countries in the world re: wearing clothers), and gay marriage (What's the big hangup here, anyway?), definitely

Prostitution shares a problem with marijuana, in related to all the crime problems that would definitely come with.

[Fleet]

Originally posted by skees53
Now as far as revenge killing... well, that is already legalized in some sense unfortunately... the death penalty.
No, it's called "justice."

[I am Him]

Prostitution :grineyes: :happyface

and soft drugs. I don't like drugs, but I also don't think it's something people should go to jail for.

[Bang A Gong]

Gay marriage.

Marijuana should be legalized. I don't smoke it, but I don't see anything wrong with it.

[B&W fan]

The only one of those I'd legalize is OTHER, and the "other" would be allowing a 10 Commandments monument back into a certain Alabama courthouse.

B&W "I may have to add 'in God' back into the Pledge soon as well" fan :rolleyes:

[M82A1]

Originally posted by B&W fan
The only one of those I'd legalize is OTHER, and the "other" would be allowing a 10 Commandments monument back into a certain Alabama courthouse.

B&W "I may have to add 'in God' back into the Pledge soon as well" fan :rolleyes: Oh, so you approve of that law being broken, but when a certain LA judge marries a few homosexuals, you are opposed to it? :rolleyes: I am personally not offended by seeing the ten commandments in a courthouse, but he shouldn't have broken the law in doing so.

[B&W fan]

Originally posted by M82A1
Oh, so you aprove of That law being broken, but when a certain LA judge marries a few homosexuals, you are opposed to it? :rolleyes: I am personally not offended by seeing the ten commandments in a courthouse, but he shouldn't have broken the law in doing so.

Whoa there! Who said anything about breaking the law?!! The question was what would I have legalized. Nothing there about breaking any laws. To the contrary as a matter of fact.

B&W "I think you jumped a bit quick there in your haste to chastise me" fan :lol:

[M82A1]

Originally posted by B&W fan
Whoa there! Who said anything about breaking the law?!! The question was what would I have legalized. Nothing there about breaking any laws. To the contrary as a matter of fact.

B&W "I think you jumped a bit quick there in your haste to chastise me" fan :lol: Ooops! :doh: :bonk:

NewsRadio "Boy, do I feel like an ass" fan :blush:

[Hollow]

i know i already replied here.. if some moderator deleted it then they need to die cause i didnt say anything bad.

[Janice]

Originally posted by safety pin
i know i already replied here.. if some moderator deleted it then they need to die cause i didnt say anything bad.
Do you remember what you posted? Bear in mind that the only two people on this site that can delete a thread are TJ and Pavanbadal.

Moderators can only edit member's threads, and only the boards that they moderate.

[Fleet]

Originally posted by Sourbabie
Marijuana should be legalized. I don't smoke it, but I don't see anything wrong with it.
Execpt for the fact that it is a "gateway" drug for many, many people which leads to the use of even more dangerous drugs, which leads to the fact that many people who start out with marijuana (the drug some people think is not "harmful") are dead from an overdose from cocaine or herion before they reach age 25.

[guest000]

As for Marijuana and Prostitution, some countries, like Netherland and Australia, have legalized them.
What do you think ?

[M82A1]

Originally posted by guest000
As for Marijuana and Prostitution, some countries, like Netherland and Australia, have legalized them.
What do you think ? You can also openly Grow and Smoke marijuana in Holland.

[skees53]

Originally posted by Fleet
Execpt for the fact that it is a "gateway" drug for many, many people which leads to the use of even more dangerous drugs, which leads to the fact that many people who start out with marijuana (the drug some people think is not "harmful") are dead from an overdose from cocaine or herion before they reach age 25.

Marijuana is not the "gateway drug." Tobacco is the gateway drug, whether you want to admit it or not.

[I am Him]

Originally posted by M82A1
You can also openly Grow and Smoke marijuana in Holland.

From what I've been told, you can smoke it, buy it and sell it, but you cannot grow it.

[Jenya]

Originally posted by guest000
As for Marijuana and Prostitution, some countries, like Netherland and Australia, have legalized them.
What do you think ?

Marijuana is only decriminalized in Australia. Not legalized. The same goes for British Columbia and Québec- it's only decriminalized. Which means if the police catch you smoking it, they will simply take it away from you, and give you a $100 fine- and they will probably end up smoking the rest of it themselves.

[Jenya]

Originally posted by skees53
Marijuana is not the "gateway drug." Tobacco is the gateway drug, whether you want to admit it or not.

And so is alcohol as well.

[M82A1]

Originally posted by Jenya
And so is alcohol as well. I agree, actually. They are all equally dangerous, and addictive. But, occasionally I drink and smoke. The reason I don't go to pot, is because I don't want to. Marijuana just isn't appealing to me.

[Jenya]

Originally posted by M82A1
I agree, actually. They are all equally dangerous, and addictive. But, occasionally I drink and smoke. The reason I don't go to pot, is because I don't want to. Marijuana just isn't appealing to me.

I don't mind smoking a marijuana cigarette once in awhile (can't do it now, because I'm pregnant :D ) if I was at a friend's party or something.

I just don't understand these regular stoners that blow all of their money on this stuff. This can be just as much of a problem as alcoholism, if it is abused.

[~*Dailey'sGurl*~]

Originally posted by B&W fan
The only one of those I'd legalize is OTHER, and the "other" would be allowing a 10 Commandments monument back into a certain Alabama courthouse.

B&W "I may have to add 'in God' back into the Pledge soon as well" fan :rolleyes:

I agree! I'm glad Moe D'Lawn isn't on here anymore to read this!

[EricIdlefan]

What should NOT be legalized
Drugs of any and all kids like cocaine crack maraijauna
Alcohol of any and all kinds
Prostitution
Lock on guns and/or any kind of weapons like machine guns(This killed Phil Hartman and his wife turned the gun on herself)

[I am Him]

Originally posted by Jenya
I don't mind smoking a marijuana cigarette once in awhile (can't do it now, because I'm pregnant ) if I was at a friend's party or something.

I thought you were a guy :eek:

[Lynn]

Originally posted by Fleet
Execpt for the fact that it is a "gateway" drug for many, many people which leads to the use of even more dangerous drugs, which leads to the fact that many people who start out with marijuana (the drug some people think is not "harmful") are dead from an overdose from cocaine or herion before they reach age 25.
Marijuana is not any more of a gateway drug than alcohol or tobacco. Yes, many people who do cocaine or heroin start with pot. But there are many, many people who smoke pot and never go on to use other drugs. The vast majority of people stop at marijuana!

That fact that marijuana is illegal means that marijuana smokers are forced to associate with the illegal drug scene and are more exposed to hard drugs than they would be if marijuana were legal. Just another way of looking at it.

[bandito]

Originally posted by Lynn
. The vast majority of people stop at marijuana!

Do you have any proof to back that statement up?

[B&W fan]

Originally posted by Lynn
Yes, many people who do cocaine or heroin start with pot... The vast majority of people stop at marijuana!

Four questions can solve this whole problem:

1) Is marijuana an addictive drug?

2) Is marijuana a mind-altering drug?

3) If mind-altering, does it have the potential to be harmful to either the person using it or to innocent people who come in contact with the person using it?

4) Can it potentially be a gateway drug that leads to even more mind-altering, addicitive drugs?

If the answer to all four questions is "YES" (and we all know they are), then it should NOT be legalized!

B&W "why people can't see the danger in smoking marijuana is insane, IMHO" fan

[Jenya]

Originally posted by B&W fan
Four questions can solve this whole problem:

1) Is marijuana an addictive drug?

2) Is marijuana a mind-altering drug?

3) If mind-altering, does it have the potential to be harmful to either the person using it or to innocent people who come in contact with the person using it?

4) Can it potentially be a gateway drug that leads to even more mind-altering, addicitive drugs?

If the answer to all four questions is "YES" (and we all know they are), then it should NOT be legalized!

B&W "why people can't see the danger in smoking marijuana is insane, IMHO" fan

According to studies conducted by Imperial Tobacco, which was forced to release this information by Health Canada (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/) in 1997. 1.5 mg of nicotine (which is the average amount smoked in one filter cigarette) contains a higher addiction rate than both heroin and cocaine.

And cigarettes are legal.

Look it up for yourself B&W "why are you making so much of a big deal with marijuana" fan. :)

[B&W fan]

I knew someone would throw the old nicotine comment out (actually, I thought someone might be crazy enough to try and mention caffiene too). That's why I specifically mentioned FOUR questions. Nicotine does not answer "YES" to all the questions Jenya.

B&W "maybe I'm making a big deal out of marijuana because I know it can kill people - especially innocent kids that happen to be walking close to a car being driven by someone that's high!" fan

[Jenya]

Originally posted by B&W fan
I knew someone would throw the old nicotine comment out (actually, I thought someone might be crazy enough to try and mention caffiene too). That's why I specifically mentioned FOUR questions. Nicotine does not answer "YES" to all the questions Jenya.

B&W "maybe I'm making a big deal out of marijuana because I know it can kill people - especially innocent kids that happen to be walking close to a car being driven by someone that's high!" fan

Oh yes it does. Let's review them and replace marijuana with nicotine- shall we:

1) Is nicotine an addictive drug?

YES. Nicotine is a highly addictive drug. It causes changes in the brain that make people want to use it more and more. In addition, addictive drugs cause unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. The good feelings that result when an addictive drug is present and the bad feelings when it's absent make breaking any addiction very difficult. Nicotine addiction has historically been one of the hardest addictions to break.

2) Is nicotine a mind-altering drug?

Yes. Within eight seconds of that first-ever inhaled puff, through dizziness and coughing, nicotine is arrived at the brain's reward pathways where it generated an unearned flood of dopamine resulting in an immediate yet possibly unrecognized "relaxation" reward sensation. Sensing it would cause most first-time inhalers to soon return for more. Nicotine also fit the adrenaline locks releasing a host of fight or flight neurochemicals and select serotonin locks impacting mood.

3) If mind-altering, does it have the potential to be harmful to either the person using it or to innocent people who come in contact with the person using it?

YES. Second-hand smoke is more dangerous than directly inhaled smoke. Second-hand smoke releases the same 4,000 chemicals as smoke that is directly inhaled, but in even greater quantity. Approximately 50 of these chemicals (carcinogens) cause cancer.
Inhaled tobacco has also proven extremely dangerious by pregnant women who smoke.

4) Can it potentially be a gateway drug that leads to even more mind-altering, addicitive drugs?

Yes. Almost all other drug abusers- including alcoholics, are smokers themselves. Proving that tobacco IS the gateway to other abusive drugs.

Source: Health Canada (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/). :)

[guest000]

I like your avatar.

[Jenya]

Originally posted by guest000
I like your avatar.

Thanks. :)

[B&W fan]

Jenya,

I can't believe you are trying to compare those two substances! I know you know better than that. There's a huge difference, when speaking of mind-altering drugs, between relaxation and hallucination! And everyone knows that, so the comparison isn't on the same level.

Beyond all that, I hate cigarette smoke anyhow, and it would be more than fine with me if it was made illegal. I live in a state where the law was just passed last year that banned smoking in restaurants and other enclosed public places. And I'm happy to say I voted for it myself.

But the comparison isn't valid when we are talking about what constitutes mind-altering drugs, nor when speaking of immediate danger (i.e. the potential for running over or into someone because you are mentally impaired thru the drug). Again, you and I both know it, so let's not play that game. :)

B&W "sheesh" fan

[Crimson and Clover]

gay marriage

[Jenya]

Originally posted by B&W fan
Jenya,

I can't believe you are trying to compare those two substances! I know you know better than that. There's a huge difference, when speaking of mind-altering drugs, between relaxation and hallucination! And everyone knows that, so the comparison isn't on the same level.

Beyond all that, I hate cigarette smoke anyhow, and it would be more than fine with me if it was made illegal. I live in a state where the law was just passed last year that banned smoking in restaurants and other enclosed public places. And I'm happy to say I voted for it myself.

But the comparison isn't valid when we are talking about what constitutes mind-altering drugs, nor when speaking of immediate danger (i.e. the potential for running over or into someone because you are mentally impaired thru the drug). Again, you and I both know it, so let's not play that game. :)

B&W "sheesh" fan

#1. I'm comparing them because you asked me to.

#2. Alcohol falls under the same catagory. Would I like to see pot legalized? To me it doesn't make a difference. I won't be going running around trying to smoke as much of it as I can if it is. Just like I'm not running to the liquer store every day for a bottle of vodka. Pot is now decriminalized in Québec now, and I'd sooner see people getting a small fine rather than getting charged. It just makes more sense this way. :)

[B&W fan]

I don't drink alcohol either, and agree that it answers "YES" to all four questions. I wouldn't at all be upset if it was banned either. I know plenty of parents, with dead children, who'd agree with me.

B&W "now you know I'm a radical, huh." fan :lol:

[EricIdlefan]

Originally posted by Jenya
#1. I'm comparing them because you asked me to.

#2. Alcohol falls under the same catagory. Would I like to see pot legalized? To me it doesn't make a difference. I won't be going running around trying to smoke as much of it as I can if it is. Just like I'm not running to the liquer store every day for a bottle of vodka. Pot is now decriminalized in Québec now, and I'd sooner see people getting a small fine rather than getting charged. It just makes more sense this way. :)

In all parts of Canada, everything seems legal there and the law and rules aren't as strict!! That is the reason some now denounced being an American citizens and go there because they hate the politics and hate the government for being too "strict"!!

[Jenya]

Originally posted by B&W fan
I don't drink alcohol either, and agree that it answers "YES" to all four questions. I wouldn't at all be upset if it was banned either. I know plenty of parents, with dead children, who'd agree with me.

B&W "now you know I'm a radical, huh." fan :lol:

Well you can be rest assured that pot will not be outright legalized up here at all anytime soon. You can still be charged if you were caught selling or trafficking large amounts of it.

And besides, if it were ever legalized, I'm sure the government would have it rigged that you couldn't get all that stoned by "their" standards from it. Plus since it's not worth for farmers these days to get in the tobacco business- due to the high taxes, licensing fees, and permits, you wouldn't profit much from any type of marijuana growing business either. It would be so controlled that it would be more of a turn off, rather than to consider it. :)

[Lynn]

Originally posted by bandito
Do you have any proof to back that statement up? A 2002 survey done by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration in the Department of Health and Human Services, found that marijuana is used by 14.6 million people, cocaine is used by 2 million, and heroin is used by 166,000. Even if every one of those cocaine users also used marijuana, that would still leave 86% of marijuana users who do not use cocaine (and 98% who do not use heroin.) That seems to me to indicate that a majority of marijuana users do not use cocaine or heroin.

[Lynn]

Originally posted by B&W fan
Four questions can solve this whole problem:

1) Is marijuana an addictive drug?

2) Is marijuana a mind-altering drug?

3) If mind-altering, does it have the potential to be harmful to either the person using it or to innocent people who come in contact with the person using it?

4) Can it potentially be a gateway drug that leads to even more mind-altering, addicitive drugs?

If the answer to all four questions is "YES" (and we all know they are), then it should NOT be legalized!

B&W "why people can't see the danger in smoking marijuana is insane, IMHO" fan Well, I never said I thought it should be legalized. I honestly don't know how I feel about that issue. However, I think it is important to clear up misperceptions about the issue. Marijuana is no more of a gateway drug than alcohol. If marijuana didn't exist, people would still abuse cocaine and heroin. I just think that the argument that we should not legalize marijuana because it is a gateway drug is flawed. You could make the opposite argument, as I did in my previous post, that legalizing marijuana separates it from the harder drugs.

I see the danger in smoking marijuana but realize it is no more dangerous than the legal drug alcohol!

[Lynn]

Originally posted by B&W fan
I don't drink alcohol either, and agree that it answers "YES" to all four questions. I wouldn't at all be upset if it was banned either. I know plenty of parents, with dead children, who'd agree with me.

B&W "now you know I'm a radical, huh." fan :lol:
I think it is interesting to note that prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s did not solve the problem.

[Brad]

Originally posted by Fleet
No, it's called "justice."

Do you call the fact that countless innocent people have been put to death "justice?"

Oh, and pot's virtually harmless. It's certainly less damaging than alcohol. I'd legalize it.